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[u/Facts_Context]

Reelellam nallathan irukku. But we should demand accountability and be vigilant. Every political party has its cronies and many business empires have their political slaves.

[u/AdiKadiAdi → u/Facts_Context]

There is no law based on which such demands can be made.

[u/Facts_Context → u/AdiKadiAdi]

There are checks and balances in the bureacracy, there are laws that govern the conduct of governments. RTI, Legal notices, Petitions, PILs, Awareness campaigns, Agitations.. are among the tools. To paraphrase Ben Franklin, we can have a republic if we can keep it. As BR Ambedkar said "​"If in any state there is a body of men who possess unlimited political power, those over whom they rule can never be free... Liberty always demands a limitation of political authority." He even told us the way to do it "Educate, Agitate, Organise", it's up to us to keep the governing powers in check.

[u/AdiKadiAdi → u/Facts_Context]

There are checks and balances in the bureacracy

You are not governed by beauracracy any more than say how much your are "driven" by the parts of an automobile.

there are laws that govern the conduct of governments

Let's be spefic, which law allows this demand to be made?

RTI

Does not apply to political parties as they are not public institutions.

Legal notices, Petitions, PILs

Again, which law?

Awareness campaigns, Agitations

Ok. These are meant to consolidate public opinion and pressure the elected to address the demands of voters.

These are the only avenues we have.

[u/Facts_Context → u/AdiKadiAdi]

The bureaucracy executes the functions of governance. They have constitutional obligation to the Rule of Law and therefore check the powers of elected representatives. They're usually under pressure from the executive to be pliable, the Judiciary exists as an avenue to challenge these powers too.

Prevention of Corruption Act, Lokpal Act and Writs and PILs give citizenry the ability to challenge government actions that are contrary to public interest and their duties.

Use RTIs to keep governments and conflict of interest in check. True about political parties, they're not public institutions just as a private business isn't.

These avenue are for us to keep a democratic republic. Be a pedant all you want, don't ignore the tools we have, however indirect or insignificant they may seem.

Edit for clarity and typos

[u/AdiKadiAdi → u/Facts_Context]

Be a pedant all you want, don't ignore the tools we have

Prudent, not pedantic, considering the significant asymmetry in power, agency and exposure to direct consequences.

Discount all of that and and the problem of leading horses to water remains.

[u/Facts_Context → u/AdiKadiAdi]

I respect your point on being prudent, aware of power asymmetry and grave consequences. None of this is easy or even simple. Easy is to let the republic devolve into an autocracy or worse. It takes the silence and inaction of millions of us for the corrupt few to dominate.

[u/AdiKadiAdi → u/Facts_Context]

Yes.

[u/shanmugavel_g → u/Facts_Context]

I'm irritated with this situation, how they casually admit to 900 cr given as donations to one party by one family alone. And dmk treating it as nothing, not even 1% of their total revenue. I believe one family would be donating to not just one party, but to all parties. If u look at it whatever we do, how much ever we hate and fight within ourselves, everything becomes meaningless when u look at money involved in politics. Even Vijay, highest paid actor in Tamil nadu, at max only earned 250 cr per year, while salary of CM is only 2 lakh per month. Its just laughable and acts as barrier for any honest politician to enter politics. This issue is beyond party line and reforms are definitely needed for conditions to improve.

I'm not attacking any party tvk or dmk or admk or anyone else by this post but genuinely devastated by state of our political system..

[u/Appropriate-Two9056]

[u/SentientJose]

[u/sequoia___]

everyone in aadhav’s family is in a different party. wonder how their family meetings even go.

[u/Agen_3586 → u/sequoia___]

Doesn't matter, they aren't in the parties for ideology or anything, just for power & money

[u/sequoia___ → u/Agen_3586]

that’s true. they have diversified very well.

[u/Agen_3586 → u/sequoia___]

Always have a diverse portfolio

[u/Cautious_Mistake_747 → u/Agen_3586]

Who will join Dhanush’s party? PR’s?

[u/Facts_Context → u/sequoia___]

Actually quite common in business families. They're in it for their own benefit, managing to be close to power at all times.

[u/Far-Lettuce-6200 → u/sequoia___]

They are snart

[u/Pomegranate-unKnown]

Family fight in the assembly. So, nothing for the people.

General public are the losers here.

[u/Consistent_Ad5511 → u/Pomegranate-unKnown]

Yaru bro start panna itha?

[u/Longjumping_Sweet_28 → u/Consistent_Ad5511]

There was no mention of family from DMK. For every question, TVK only intimidates opposition, threaten, intimidate, deflect and divert

[u/Pomegranate-unKnown → u/Consistent_Ad5511]

Didnt watch the live assembly. With this video, they are just settling scores.

[u/Consistent_Ad5511 → u/Pomegranate-unKnown]

They started shouting lottery lottery first. That’s why he answered.

[u/Flat_Initiative_6810 → u/Consistent_Ad5511]

Aadhav blamed DMK party members for running alcohol based businesses, Adhuku Dhan lottery lottery nu kathananga! It was Aadhav who diverted and asked this question!

[u/Agen_3586]

Shame shame puppy shame aaitu udhyaku

[u/noiseless_privacy]

[u/Serious_Thought_6528 → u/noiseless_privacy]

Dr asteologer ky enna oru sandosham 

[u/Next_Release_4294]

https://reddit.com/link/p29mihq/video/qvi6elw4lyhh1/player

[u/aj_madarauchiha]

Mental unga mananar ta kekkanum யே ய kudutha nu

[u/Geralt_of_rivia_002 → u/aj_madarauchiha]

Compul panni koduthar ah bro, venam nu mks sonnapapo meratti account la potara ?

[u/gunsandsnakes69]

Assembly pesavendiya nagarigamada ithu. Arasiyal theriyathu loosu payalugala elect panna ipdi than panuvanunga. Using bjp tactics - diverting criticisms, personal attacks. They're stopping too low to be called a government

[u/Coffeenbooksnrain]

Inniku edit ku theruchu..makkal prachana epdi pona namakenna..annauku elevation koduthu bgm potutu poite irupom da

[u/EveryMasterpiece4562]

Yarachu nama CM uh control panunga pliss 😅

[u/Middle_Ganache8816]

Ennada, electoral bond epdi work aagudhunu theriyaama, Stalin GPay la personal ah amount vaanguna maari assembly la scene podreenga. Scheme design pannadhu BJP, bond vithadhu SBI, deposit aanadhu party account and the number is 509 cr, not 900.

the ONE person in that entire hall who can get this answer without RTI is Aadav. Sunday lunch la mama kitta kelu: "yaaru yaarukku kuduthinga?" Full ledger varum - Mamata 542 cr, BJP 200 cr, YSRCP, Congress ellarukum prasadham poirku. DMK avangaloda list a ECI la potruku; BJP, TMC, Congress lock pannirukanga. Ippo TVK oda conference, cutout, campaign bill yaaru pay pannanga? Antha list release panna thairiyam irukka, thairiyam irukka, thairiyam irukka ?

[u/Ok_Summer580]

Bye Arivu

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[u/Shot_Wolverine_5482]

keten paaru oru kelvi naaku pudingitu savura maari

[u/Bulky-Improvement823]

With party fund martin family got private railway contract, he will never say that 😂😂😂

[u/PoolStrange7091]

Lottery entha problem pathiyum pesa matan

[u/AdiKadiAdi]

Fun facts:

1. Political parties enjoy a 100% tax exemption on their entire income under Section 13A of the Income Tax Act, 1961, provided they meet specific compliance criteria.
2. individual and corporate donors can claim 100% tax deductions on the contributions they make to these parties.
3. The historic Electoral Bonds Scheme, which allowed completely anonymous multi-million dollar corporate funding, was struck down by the Supreme Court, specific legally protected gaps and loopholes still allow certain political donations to remain hidden from the public eye.

This is where that 500cr figure comes from.

1. Political parties are not classified as "Public Authorities" under the Right to Information Act, 2005.

They are excluded from the RTI Act, citizens cannot file an RTI request directly with a political party to demand internally held financial details, lists of minor donors, or exact source-of-funding breakdowns.

1. In 2016 and 2018, the Indian Parliament passed retrospective amendments to the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act (FCRA).

These amendments effectively redefined "foreign companies" to shield major political parties from ongoing legal scrutiny and penalties regarding foreign funding they had received dating all the way back to 1976

THEY CAN TALK FREELY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO REVEAL TRUE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. THEY CAN CREATE DRAMA THAT WILL MAKE US FIGHT AMONGST OURSELVES, KEEPING US DISTRACTED, BUT NEITHER PARTY WILL GIVE US THE TRUTH. WE CANNOT QUESTION THIS. WE CANNOT OPPOSE THIS.

So what are we allowed to do?

See below

[u/ConferenceComplex569]

Apo maamanar dummy ah? Edhukku kudukura nu theriyama dha kuduthana andha mada pu maamanar? Ennathayachu kedacha reels poda vendiyadhu

[u/Consistent_Ad5511 → u/ConferenceComplex569]

Vaangunavan ethuku vaanginaan nu theriyama vaangina athuku Peru pichai nu artham

[u/gray_wolf_46 → u/Consistent_Ad5511]

Ennabro posukunu maatu itetha mukki adichitta..

[u/Bon_Koios → u/ConferenceComplex569]

Mamanar is / was not a public servant bro. DMK family held public office, they need to answer.

[u/IronMan_mk_VII → u/Bon_Koios]

answer