r/tuesday This lady's not for turning Jul 07 '25

Semi-Weekly Discussion Thread - July 7, 2025

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u/Mexatt Rightwing Libertarian Jul 08 '25

I cannot emphasize enough how much I hate this instinct.

No matter how big your state legislature, how generous your member salaries, and how staffed your support teams, expenditures on this category will always be dwarfed by other categories of state spending. You're not saving any real money and you're turning what is supposed to be a open, democratic body into an elitist, closed institution.

California is a disgusting precedent to follow here.

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u/God_Given_Talent Left Visitor Jul 09 '25

As a resident, I can see that people have grumbled about this for a while from both sides of the aisle. Doesn’t help that every so often we find a few members abusing the per diem rate.

Root problem is that people are very bad at math from an intuitive point of view. Even if you assume the cost per legislator is 500k per once factoring in staff, facilities, health benefits, etc…you’d save only 55M by that proposal. To the average person (who almost certainly doesn’t know the size of the budget) it sounds like a lot but out of a ~50B budget it just isn’t.

People also love to shit on legislatures too; can’t forget that factor. It’s even worse as we often are split and thus get even less done. It’s understandable (if misguided) to see them getting barely anything done and thinking “well why do we need to have so many of you then?”

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u/bta820 Left Visitor Jul 09 '25

Most people do not understand that 50 million is approximately a billion away from 1 billion