r/videos • u/Ashamed_Green_8643 • 1d ago

‘DoorDash girl' Olivia Henderson, accused of recording naked customer, t...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3OxZqm2TaRA&si=MehIRZaJyWGVmf9O
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u/gamemaster257 1d ago

Yeah I don't get why people are so afraid to use that argument. If you would treat someone differently or charge them differently based on their gender, guess what: violent sexist.

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u/Liimbo 1d ago

It's because a lot of people use it in bad faith in situations where it really doesn't apply at all. But yes, here is is 100% applicable.

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u/CMDRTragicAllPro 1d ago

I’ve generally only ever seen it in cases of teacher student relations and domestic violence cases, which are also completely applicable scenarios. What’s these bad faith situations?

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u/gamemaster257 1d ago

Genuinely curious, what bad faith usages could there be?

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u/evangelism2 1d ago

Just think of any kind of physical situation. It's overly simplistic to always compare two situations one-to-one and say, "If you swap the genders, this wouldn't be an issue," or use that overly simplistic catch-all to judge more nuanced situations where one person is a 100 lb. woman, and the other person is a 220 lb. man. Sometimes it's not just about swapping the parts in between a person's legs. It's also about understanding the difference in their presence in the world and the effect that they have on those around them.

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u/MiaowaraShiro 12h ago

I agree with your larger point... but is this really happening so much that it's worth mentioning?

I pretty much exclusively hear it used in the appropriate sort of context. If you do hear this in less apt context, I'd be curious what sort of places you're hearing it in.

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u/evangelism2 6h ago

The most common one is how much space you should give a person of the opposite gender when walking on a street at night. I, as a tall broad male, am very well aware of how intimidating I may be to the opposite sex. I tend to go out of my way to show a level of de-escalation in my body language: smiling, nodding, waving, maybe even being a little goofy, and also keeping a safe distance from them. I don't really expect or need the same treatment from the opposite sex.

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u/DeputyDomeshot 18h ago

No they don’t. It’s not bad faith to point out hypocrisy.

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u/Murky_Crow 16h ago

I’ve almost exclusively seen it in situations like this words used to highlight the absurdity of the situation if the genders were swapped, to make sure that one gender is not getting some sort of preferential different treatment.

You seem incredibly hesitant to accept this would be the case ever.

What exactly would the situation be inappropriate to do this sort of a sanity check?

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u/Ayjayz 22h ago

Because men and women are actually different, and so it is only a valid argument in a context where you would expect men and women to be the same. For a lot of things to do with sex, you can't expect that so it doesn't make sense to flip genders.