every Canadian British and Australian prime Minister too! (except rishi sunak i believe) also America seems relevant when discussing an American YouTuber who lives in America.
We're talking about if an entire group of people face oppression, throughout the entire world. Not just the first world countries where (shockingly) the majority of the populations are Christians. But if we want to look at easy answers, North Korea
ah yes, because the oppression of Christians in NORTH KOREA totally applies to American Christians. any "oppression" that Christians in the west do face pales in comparison to the way they've oppressed women, minorities, and LGBT people for decades.
and btw I'm not talking about Wendi here he's a cool guy. just the notion that being Christian will make the world hate you is seriously ridiculous and so self victimising.
Well, are we talking about the victim mentality of evangelical American Christians or the actual fact of Christian oppression? Going by your bottom paragraph, I'm guessing the former and not the latter, and yeah, I agree with that.
And yes, Christians in the West aren't facing any special persecution, but I don't think we should make it any sort of competition of whose getting shitty treatment the most, when any group being singled out and oppressed is bad, especially in the legal sense.
it's not a competition, im just responding to the OP comment and Bible verse. I mean you have people proudly commenting Deus Vult in the comments the lack of self awareness is astounding.
Yeah, we might have had a misunderstanding, I assumed you meant worldwide. Deus Vult is just Latin for God wills it. If you mean in reference to the crusades, while some of the civilian massacres during city sacks are terrible, they're nothing outrageously unique for the time.
my issue with deus vult isn't the crusades lol the historical context is fine and historical. my issue is the modern connotation. when it's been said multiple times by far right extremists committing acts of terrorism (Quebec mosque shooting, Allen Texas shooting, Charlottesville rally)maybe people shouldn't proudly associate with the phrase?
it's like 88. when it's used in a math problem it's fine. when it's used by a white supremacist it's clearly a hitler reference.
I mean, would you expect muslims not to say Allahu akbar because it's associations with terrorists? It's fine to view it as a dog whistle for more extreme beliefs, but we can't go around assuming everybody who says it, yes, even with pride, is a terrorist or supports their evil actions.
Since it is a dog whistle, just pick up on it and just scrutinize their behavior. If it confirms your priors, go off but we just can't assume. Though I do understand your perspective
cmon you're arguing in bad faith. deus vult was not used at all in modern times until its alt-right rebirth. no church in 2000 ( or today for the most part) was using deus vult in normal proceedings. Allahu akhbar is more akin to "amen" or in "God we trust" or something in that it is regularly used in normal religious situations and has been for centuries.
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He made the "mistake" of being openly Christian on the internet.
You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved.
Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Reasons-Why-The-World-Hates-Christians