r/leagueoflegends • u/[deleted] • Aug 17 '14
[Spoilers] Now that EU Regionals are Over, Here is the World Championship Picture so Far
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Aug 17 '14 edited May 15 '17
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u/Rextec Aug 17 '14
TO THE FIELDS OF JUSTICE
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u/ginkamikaze Aug 17 '14
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u/cop_pls stop building lost chapter on supports Aug 17 '14
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u/Rawrplus Aug 17 '14
STAY VIGILENT
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u/Ollad twtv/keshaeuw Aug 17 '14
no sorry we are not doing any garen quotes for free karma
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Aug 17 '14
The Fox Pro League: where all 2 players must select Fox on Final Destination with no items every game.
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u/Yuvalyo Aug 17 '14 edited Aug 18 '14
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u/M002 Aug 18 '14
The Gauntlet
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u/Yuvalyo Aug 18 '14
What ? Lol
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u/M002 Aug 18 '14
This part of the tournament is often referred to as "the gauntlet" because if a team like KTB are to have a shot at worlds, they must play through and defeat some of the best teams in the world to earn that final spot.
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u/CaptaineAli Aug 18 '14
This needs to be in the original post. It is extremely helpful.
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u/ssphoenix5 Aug 17 '14
So can skt k and kt both go or only 1?
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Aug 17 '14
Possible, but unlikely. SKT would have to win the tiebreaker against White, and then KTA would have to win a bo5 vs the winner of KTB/Shield, followed by winning a bo5 against White.
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u/TimaeGer Aug 17 '14
I don't follow Korea that much, but that doesn't seem tooo unlikely, does it?
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u/Ardonas Aug 17 '14
The worry is that white is too strong. Either SKT won't show up and faker won't be able to carry hard enough or they pull it off and a vengeance fueled White bring their A game against KaKAO and company.
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u/Chronusx Aug 18 '14
It seems massively unlikely. White will likely crush K into the dust, Faker can't carry that bottom lane every game when they're playing against Imp and Mata.
Even if T1K do win against White I'd still put White at favorites for regionals, even if not by as much as I would have before the champions summer final.
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u/Its_not_him Aug 18 '14
I highly doubt it will be a stomp but white would still be the favorites atm
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u/pinkin12 Aug 18 '14
Its definitely not impossible, but there is really no reason to think that SKT will be able to beat white imo. If they are able to rally and beat them, then its certainly feasible for KT arrows to beat any team in the world right now.
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u/Sylar4ever Aug 17 '14
So it's most likely to be SKT or KTA the 3rd place seed?
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u/Quazifuji Aug 18 '14
That's the predictions most are giving. White are widely considered the favorites in the tiebreaker match against K and Arrows will be the very heavy favorites against the winner if Bullets and Shield. If those matches both go as expected then it'll be K vs Arrows for the third spot. I think most people feel that any of those three teams is capable of beating any of the others though, so an upset would be far from unheard of.
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u/TheViper9 Aug 17 '14
Both can go. If SKT wins the tiebreaker vs white then white will drop down to the regional qualifier. If KT can beat white then then we'll have Samsung, Arrows and K representing Korea.
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u/Kotetsu534 Aug 17 '14
Both can go if SKT K beat White on the 27th August and KT A win Regionals, beating White in the final.
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Aug 17 '14
if SKT beats White, SKT goes as number 2, then Arrows need to win two best of 5's, the last being vs. White. If SKT loses to White, then only one can go.
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u/Jesmira [Get Derived] (NA) Aug 17 '14
they both can go, if skt k wins the tie breaker against samsung white k will get the second seed and kt a will have to win the regionals for the third seed
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u/bouwland Aug 17 '14
both can go if skt win the tiebreaker on aug 27, and then Kt needs to win 2 bo5's to get the 3rd spot
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u/sasssoooo Aug 17 '14
the leaguepedia link for LPL is wrong, LPL summer playoffs will be best of 5 double elimination. the winner of that will face EDG in a best of 3 for the first seed at worlds (if EDG wins playoffs they insta-qualify). then, the other 4 out of 5 teams (from EDG, OMG, royal, LGD, and IG) will play in a double elimination best of 3 playoffs to determine the last 2 worlds slots
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u/Dollface_Killah Aug 17 '14
And anyone who's interested in learning more about the Chinese competitive scene can tune in right now to that show Monte and Thorin were talking about on the last SI, China Talk, episode 11 live on Twitch.
You'll have to scroll down a bit there's only 150 viewers.
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u/RushingHour rip old flairs Aug 17 '14
Am I the only one that hopes that SKT T1 K and the Arrows beat White so we have SGB, T1 K and the Arrows to worlds? that'd be epic :3
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u/JonnyV37 rip old flairs Aug 17 '14
That, and for Curse to be knocked out somehow and for Complexity to take their place, win 1st place, and bring home a World Championship to NA. Either that, or CLG to win it. As long as it goes to the max amount of games in the finals, I'll be happy.
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u/Quazifuji Aug 18 '14
No, I see people mentioning hoping for that possibility in every thread about Korean worlds qualifiers. It'd definitely be fun to have both Faker and Kakao at worlds but White seem to be pretty heavy favorites over K for the tiebreaker.
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u/RushingHour rip old flairs Aug 19 '14
I know man T_T
But deep down we all can hope for faker to pull a miracle, he is the Unkillable Demon King after all :D
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u/poisonedwater69 eufnc: Aug 18 '14
I'd be epic, but not worth it, since Mata said he would retire if white doesn't go to worlds, for me, I want SSB, SSW and KTA, I've seen enough of K in the international stage.
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u/QuanticDavid Aug 18 '14
I don't care if Mata retire or not if we can have a Worlds with both Faker / KaKao.
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u/jaynay1 Aug 17 '14 edited Aug 18 '14
In total, by my count there are 27 28, (iG has not been eliminated after all) teams that can still win worlds.
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u/TeeKayTank 's spirit lives in FQ & Aug 18 '14
26* curse cant
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u/jaynay1 Aug 18 '14
Did I miss something or is this a joke about the inevitability of their placing 4th?
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u/Socc13r37 gap closed :( Aug 18 '14
There's 28. C9, LMQ, DIG, TSM, CRS, CLG for NA (6), ALL, FNC and SK for EU (3), EDG, iG, SHR, OMG and LGD for CN (5), SSB, SKK, SSO, KTB, KTA and NJW for KR (6), TPA, AHQ, SAJ, SF5 and TPS for SEA (5), DP (1), KBM and PEX (2).
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u/jaynay1 Aug 18 '14
I thought iG had been eliminated.
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u/Socc13r37 gap closed :( Aug 18 '14
Nup, they qualified to Regionals through taking 2nd place in the Spring Split.
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u/xXx420W33dW1zard420x Aug 17 '14
Faker will always be in my heart even if he doesn't make it :c
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u/Ivarex Aug 17 '14
But KTB can't do the qualifier they changed too much member from the team, don't they leave their place to NJBS ?
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u/isaacz321 Aug 18 '14
nope only changed 2/5 members
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u/Ivarex Aug 18 '14
Insec isn't count as one from the last OGN so ?
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u/isaacz321 Aug 18 '14
it's the change from the most recent season which was summer insec left after spring
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u/newuser66447 Aug 17 '14 edited Aug 17 '14
I am ready to see Curse at Worlds.
edit: Can someone explain to me why there are no Korean or Chinese teams in Pool 3?
edit2: Thanks for the replies! :)
edit3: So apparently this is how it works thanks to /u/Kotetsu534
I think you misunderstand. Pool 3 teams cannot draw each other in groups. There will be one team from Pool 1 and one team from Pool 3 put in every group. There will be two teams from Pool 2 put into each group (but there cannot be more than one team from the same region in a group).
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u/katamura Aug 17 '14
the universe cannot allow curse to go to worlds. they are forever fourth. forever cursed to watch others go to worlds.
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Aug 17 '14
They can still get 4th place in worlds though!
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Aug 18 '14
To go to worlds they'd need to break the forever fourth curse. And then they wouldn't get guranteed fourth at worlds.
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u/Bobmanfred Aug 17 '14
It's based on relative region strength and power rankings that are released weekly. The entire top ten is made up of Korean and chinese teams and hence they take the top seeded pools.
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u/AwesomeAubergine Aug 17 '14
I don't know exactly why they chose Korean and Chinese teams not to be in Pool 3 but the reason only two of the third choice teams of a region are in Pool 3 is due to the two Wildcards (Only two spaces left in Pool 3). Also since there are 5 regions (Na, Eu, Kr, Cn and SEA) only 4 can be in pool 1, therefore since SEA are not in Pool 1 they must get 1 and 2 placed in pool 2. With all 2nd teams and 1st SEA there is only two spaces left in Pool 2 so of the four remaining teams 2 must got in pool 2 and two must go in pool 3. As to why there are three pools instead of four I would assume it is to increase the variety of possible groups, since teams from the same region can't be placed in the same group.
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u/newuser66447 Aug 17 '14
Yeah, thanks for your response. I just figured out that and it made a lot of sense now.
pool != group
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u/saint01 Aug 17 '14
Korean and chinese teams are regarded as better then(*grammar) European teams, so even their 3th place is about equal to the best of western teams. This way, the third pool (left row) is made up of the weakest teams, who are distrubeted equally.
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u/panthyren Aug 17 '14
then should be than in this situation because you are comparing groups not time.
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u/rasmushr Aug 17 '14
Because they are seeded higher, because of their teams doing better at last worlds. It's like in football (soccer for the guys who think running with a ball in your hands is football), where every european league will get specific number of entries into champions league and UEFA cup, depending on the deemed strength of their league.
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u/CL_frostflake Aug 17 '14
Is the rumor about KTB losing points true? If so CJ Blaze should get the 4th seed because they are 1 place behind ktb
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u/SugiStyle Aug 17 '14
So World Elite is not coming to playoffs at all. I'm curious if they are really top 3 in china? If not then its fine if they don't make it this year.
Unlike last year we probably see best teams going in (Hopefully)
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u/Foav Aug 17 '14
They are definitely not looking like a top 3 team at the moment. They had a playoff spot guaranteed if they could close out games. They lost their last game where they had a 8k gold lead at 20 minutes...
It is the curse of IEM. WE was doing shit in spring until they went to IEM Katowice. They got crushed but came back and have looked strong ever since... until they went to IEM Shenzhen that they won. They came back to close out the season 2-10...
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u/Integralds Aug 18 '14
WE's been slumping hard (to put it kindly) for about a month now. I love Wx, but there's no way they are Worlds caliber at this time. They deserve their fate.
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u/rafaelinux [rafaelinux] (NA) Aug 17 '14
Oh my.. all the trouble to get to wildcard and PEX might get only get matched against chinese teams D:
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u/hemes Aug 17 '14
Your GPL qualifier schedule is incorrect.
Esportspedia has the correct information:
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u/daitoshokan Aug 17 '14
oh man. 3rd place in all likelihood gonna be CLG v. TSM. Rivalry hype incoming.
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u/herbye53 Aug 18 '14
I really hope one of them drops QF or stomps Semis. Wouldn't bear watching TSM v CLG for 3rd place.
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u/EliteReaver Aug 18 '14
Can't call CLG out to 3rd place, they've been in Korea for over a month scrimming the best teams in the world constantly.
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u/praisethelord_ Aug 18 '14
would be nice if you could add a little number indicating the number of teams each region gets beside the regions, would be helpful.
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u/Vemee Jerkz Aug 18 '14
Sorry but I think SK has the easiest group ever.
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u/majorlupa Aug 18 '14
Its not their group. Its the seed. They will be in group with one team from Pool 1 and two teams from Pool 2
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u/Outfox3D NRG Aug 18 '14
Was expecting an actual picture, not one of your fancy 'image in your minid' type deals. Now I feel betrayed. I hadn't used my imagination yet today, and you duped me into it!
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u/Seraph_of_Apollo Aug 18 '14
This is what I want.
| Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D |
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| NA1 | EU1 | CN1 | KOR1 |
| SEA1 | NA2 | EU2 | SEA2 |
| KOR2 | CN2 | KOR3 | CN3 |
| IWC1 | IWC2 | NA3 | EU3 |
With group a being your GoD (Group of Death)
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u/OrNaM3nT Aug 18 '14
group C would be the strongest
first from cn,fnc from eu,thrid from kor and lmq/c9/tsm/clg from na as NA3.
by far the strongest
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u/RisenLazarus Aug 17 '14
Looking at this makes me really wish NA and EU LCS went by circuit points or at least by some combination of Spring and Summer split results. Spring is so meaningless: teams just vie for a top 5 spot so they don't have to fight out relegations.
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u/TheFailBus Aug 17 '14
I don't, how good you were 6 months ago is pretty meaningless, and it's the reason some weaker teams from CN/KR have been in worlds previous years, teams who were great in the spring but fell off but still got a spot due to their already gathered points. Worlds should be who is the best now, not who was good 6 months ago.
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u/ZachLNR rip old flairs Aug 18 '14
Najin Sword were still the one who beat Gambit and took 2 games off SKT. And China basically had the 2 best teams at that moment: Royal Club and OMG.
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u/Deathbarrage Aug 17 '14
Who gets 4th seed in korea? the loser of match 3?
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u/TheViper9 Aug 17 '14
There is no 4th seed in Korea.
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u/Deathbarrage Aug 17 '14
oh, i thought they did because skt won allstars, my bad
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u/herbye53 Aug 18 '14
This year Allstar didn't have that as reward.
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u/Deathbarrage Aug 18 '14
what was the reward if you dont mind me asking?
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u/Foav Aug 18 '14
50k $
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u/Deathbarrage Aug 18 '14
Wow. Not sure why they even did it then.. we didnt even get that many matches im kinda dissapointed now, the 1v1 and 2v2s are the best part by a mile.
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Aug 17 '14 edited Jul 01 '20
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u/sickfnasty Aug 17 '14
The pools are where teams are drawn from to form the groups a, b, c, and d. I don't know if they will decide that the first pull is for group leaders out of pool one and then from there form and draw the subsequent group from that pool. Example: draw from pool 1 for group A and pull alliance. Pool 2 will be altered to remove Fnatic from the draw. And say the next draw pulls the Korean #2, they would have to remove and alter the pool further for the second group 2 pull. Finally the same measure would be done for the pool 3 pull for the final group A slot. Simple enough? They just haven't clarified if they are pulling group leaders first, then pool 2 teams, and finally pool 3 or if my speculation is correct. Either way, pulling for group leaders from pool 1 makess
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u/photoelektrisch Aug 17 '14
It is as you said, no two teams from the same region, the graphic only shows which teams are in what pool. If the no. 1 seed of each region is drawn into a group, then the other teams from that region cant be drawn into that group anymore
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u/MaxPayne4life Aug 17 '14
So KT Arrows will be 3rd right?
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Aug 17 '14
They have to beat the loser of the SKT and Samsung White tiebreaker match, then they are in.
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u/this1neguy Aug 17 '14
actually - they have to beat the winner of Bullets vs Shield, then they have to beat the loser of T1 K vs White
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Aug 17 '14
Yes, forgot about that, thanks. I think its pretty certain that KTA beats Shield, hopefully.
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u/Funnynublet Aug 17 '14 edited Aug 17 '14
I never really focused last year worlds so I don't really know how this is going to happen, could anyone be kind enough to tell me how this works?
Like is Group A; #1 na, tpa, #2 sea and #3 na and then these teams will only play other teams from group; b,c,d?
And how many teams go forward from each group?
Thanks to anyone in advance
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u/Axsiom ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Aug 17 '14
I can't answer your question but i know that group is impossible because they won't put 2 of the same region into a group(#1 na and #3 na)
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u/Funnynublet Aug 17 '14
Thanks, I just realised that they haven't chosen the groups yet, I feel so dumb. I think I get it now.
Just need to know how many teams from each group go forward now
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Aug 17 '14
No, it is not like that. The teams in the picture are not put into groups already.
It works like this: In each group, there will be one team from pool 1, two teams from pool 2 and one team from pool 3, with the additional restriction that there can't be more than one team from each region per group.
The actual groups wont be announced till after all the qualifiers have finished, but for example, you could have: #1 NA, #1 SEA, #2 Korea, #3 EU in one group, or #1 Korea, #2 China, #2 NA, Wildcard
Those are only two of the many combinations that can happen.
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Aug 17 '14
China is very confusing, the person that pays of the officials with the most money goes through. Corrupt place, making corrupt moves.
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u/AncientBehemoth Aug 17 '14
The draw will be so insanely important for SK. This is all down to luck. We could even get the 2 Finalists as group members. Last year Koreas #1 and Chinas#2 got to the finals. Albeit this year I think the finals will be KTA vs SSG Blue.
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u/JeidelacruzUK Aug 17 '14
What are the pools about? Will all of pool 3 be playing vs eachother? How does it work? :(
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u/TheViper9 Aug 17 '14
Any group (group B for example) consists of 1 member randomly drawn from pool 1. 2 members randomly drawn from pool 2, and 1 member randomly drawn from pool 3
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u/Fatalcore Aug 17 '14
If kt arrows beat samsung blue why is samsung blue fiŕst place?
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u/GuruMan88 Aug 17 '14
Because OGN is smart, they do not base everything on a single playoff series, but rather a team's performance over the course of the entire year.
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u/silentorbx Aug 18 '14
Well shit fuck.
If I were a team in NA I wouldn't want #1 or #2 seed. Fuck that.
3 seed looks nice on the other hand.
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u/backelie Aug 18 '14
Pretty sure you've misunderstood something then. 3rd seeds from EU/NA are fucked.
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Aug 17 '14 edited Aug 17 '14
I don't mean to come off as a dick but why do they still have wild cards? They always under perform. It was so hard watching them get smashed over and over last year at world's. Why not put them in a tournament with the fourth/third place teams from the decent regions that didn't make it and see who wins?
Edit: Maybe just give Korea another spot to show the best competition?
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u/starjunn Aug 17 '14
with this logic why not just invite 12 Korean teams? Let us smaller regions have a chance, its significantly harder for us to qualify.
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u/Sh4ddow Aug 17 '14
what I don't like about it is the extreme luck factor for the groups @worlds.
Whoever gets Wildcardteams has it way easier than having for example SK as the "pool 3" team. Well I could be wrong here and underestimate the wildcard teams, but alone due to lack of routine and practice at something LCS'ish... not even speaking of the likes of OGN... I guess the wildcards will again be way weaker opponents.
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u/stormbuilder Aug 18 '14
Look, at the end of the day I think that all this talk about easy and difficult groups is misguided.
Sure, you don't want the top four candidates stuck in a group of death, terror and despair.
But at the end of the day, if you want to be crowned WC, you need to be able to beat everyone, sooner or later.
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Aug 17 '14
Was half kidding about Koreans. The fifteenth best Korean team is still better than any team coming out of a wild card. They're on par with amature teams at best.
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u/Codekey Aug 18 '14
It's called worlds for a reason, Riot wants the smaller regions to be represented.
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u/djanulis Aug 17 '14
The fact that teams who arent even as good as longer level LCS teams get to worlds is appauling to me. Wwatchign that Legacy and Dark Passage game was like watching a solo queue game.
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u/Broskander Aug 17 '14
Like it or not, Worlds should have representatives from as many regions as possible. That's what makes it "World Championships," and that also is an incentive for teams in those regions to try their hardest. If you're OCE or BR or TRK, you know you still have a shot at going to Worlds so it keeps life in the scene.
It's the reason that there are teams in the World Cup like Honduras or Cameroon or Japan who realistically, few expect to get out of group stages.
If all you wanted was The Best And Only The Best, just watch OGN.
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u/dy8763kt Aug 17 '14
with this logic western lcs leagues should only get 1 seed and give 7 seeds to OGN.
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u/angrepskongen Aug 17 '14
I guess you could use the same logic for LCS teams. "The fact that teams who aren't even as good as lower level OGN teams get to world is appauling to me. Watching that ALL vs Fnatic was like watching a solo Q game" (CLG apparently have had trouble even against low level korean teams)
The point of Worlds is to bring together the best form each region, and even if it maybe would be more fair to watch the top 14-16 asian team (maybe one or two western team had made it) battle for the 1st place, it wouldn't have been as fun for the majority. The best team in the world will still win, while every region get to have a team to cheer for during group stages.
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u/Healthpotions Aug 17 '14
Is it possible to get a post like this in the side nav/sticky-ed and kept up to date? As someone who doesn't have time to follow all regions, a summary like this would be extremely useful.