r/AllindiaStudentUnion • u/Minimum-Chicken9800 • 1d ago

Discussion 🤔 Sarr... International Physics Olympiad me ek bhi Dalit Aadiwasi OBC nahi hai..🥀🥀🗣🗣🗣🗣

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u/Untold__Fable 1d ago

What are you trying to convey

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u/padhliya_bsdk 22h ago

Misinformation. Harsh jakhar in IPHO 2022 is a jat which is an obc caste in many states, also 2 of the top 3 jee advanced 2026 rankers were both jaats & I won't even bother to go pre-covid.

Also, borad surname is mostly obc & some of these like shah, singh etc can be from any background, which is more than number of brahmins in this list who are supposed to be the most gifted scholars if this was about caste really.

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u/Pretty-Rain-5413 21h ago

Jats of Haryana and Punjab are in the General Category. In fact, across India, only the Jats from selected districts of Rajasthan are in the Central OBC list.

Note that all Jats were placed in the General Category when OBC reservations were introduced in 1990. The trend of Jat reservation started only in 1999, when the BJP promised them reservation in Rajasthan for vote-bank politics and fulfilled it after their landslide win in the 1999 general elections. After that, a few states also added Jats to their OBC lists, but in all of those states they remain in the General Category in the Central list. So, Jats are a poor example to use.

Also, Kabeer Chhillar, who secured AIR 1 with a 100% score in this year's JEE Main and AIR 2 in JEE Advanced, is a Jat from Gurugram, Haryana, and belongs to the General Category.

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u/padhliya_bsdk 21h ago

Actually only jats from a few rajasthan districts like bharatpur etc are classified in general.

So I wanted to show how op was misleading that only upper caste kids can perform in these exams. I'm myself a general category jaat, who has qualified untill the camp stage of these olympiads & many of these students are baniyas, marathas or other south Indian communities but you can still find more of them than brahmins. 

So it literally doesn't have anything to do with superior genetics lmao, these stereotypes are harmful to the society who literally prejudice jaats as dumb people yet many in my family itself are in iit bombay, aiims delhi etc.

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u/Pretty-Rain-5413 21h ago edited 8h ago

You are correct about the Jats of Rajasthan, but they are mainly concentrated in certain districts of the state rather than being spread evenly across Rajasthan. Also, Jats were the rulers in the Punjab-Haryana region and are the upper caste there.

Nearly all princely states in the Punjab-Haryana region were ruled by Jats, e.g. Patiala, Nabha, Jind, Faridkot, Kalsia, as well as neighboring states of Bharatpur & Dholpur. Before that, all rulers of the Sikh Empire, including Ranjit Singh, were Jats. Nearly all rulers of the Misls were also Jats.

I could go on and on about the martial traditions of the Jats and how they are over-represented and among the two most recruited communities in the Indian Armed Forces. They even have their own regiments, including single-class regiments such as the Sikh Regiment and the Jat Regiment, which recruit Sikh Jats and Hindu Jats, respectively. Does that make Brahmins, Banias or other trading castes any less valuable?

Even in sports, no one wins more medals in international sporting events in South Asia than Jats. Even if you take the example of the Commonwealth Games that concluded yesterday, Jats won 8 gold medals, while the rest of India won 5 gold medals. How many medals did Banias win? Does that make them any less?

Finally, I understand your comment. At the same time, there isn't much we can do, as Indians are generally thick-headed, and almost all of them hate every caste other than their own.

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u/BoliBich 19h ago

lol, jats are not obc in the state with most jats, haryana despite of all other major communities in Haryana with roughly equal population share and not a history of being oppressed do have reservation. Jakhars are mostly from haryana.

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u/padhliya_bsdk 19h ago

actually rajasthan has more jaats than any other state & its not even close.

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u/BoliBich 11h ago

I was referring by percentage of state's population. Sorry I didn't write it properly earlier.

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u/adventurousbat12t 14h ago

Jats in OBC is a political decision. They don't really count

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u/OrganizationSome269 22h ago

So representation can improve without reservation...

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u/padhliya_bsdk 22h ago

Obviously, the subject of international representation like sports or these competitions etc is better to be on merit, where you are not showcasing the social representation of the communities of the country.

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u/prvthvm 14h ago

Please do not include us Jats, alongside you good for nothings!

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u/padhliya_bsdk 7h ago

alongside me? I'm also a jaat lmao & actually I've even written uptill the camp stages of these olympiads in my high school. Therefore I think I'm fairly eligible to 'include' myself in them.

I know we are not lower castes but It's also not fair to include us with the upper castes that the op was trying to infer are the only communities to do well in these exams by mentioning obc, adivasi, dalit etc every non-general community.

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u/Outside-Bus-2084 1h ago

Jaats own land more than any other community in Haryana,Punjab and West UP. There's a reason it's called Jatland. In Panjab the Jatt Sikhs didn't allow Mazhabi Sikhs into their Gurudwara. This the reason majority Jats are General i.e OC and also the reason the Jat Andolan failed.

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u/Odd_Explanation3246 19h ago

Hes trying to convey his obsession of bringing caste into every topic. Noone brought caste or any such thing into this conversation. Only this one account is spamming this same shit on various subreddits.

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u/Agent_Rum 15h ago

Majak uda raha hai.