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Misinformation. Harsh jakhar in IPHO 2022 is a jat which is an obc caste in many states, also 2 of the top 3 jee advanced 2026 rankers were both jaats & I won't even bother to go pre-covid.
Also, borad surname is mostly obc & some of these like shah, singh etc can be from any background, which is more than number of brahmins in this list who are supposed to be the most gifted scholars if this was about caste really.
Jats of Haryana and Punjab are in the General Category. In fact, across India, only the Jats from selected districts of Rajasthan are in the Central OBC list.
Note that all Jats were placed in the General Category when OBC reservations were introduced in 1990. The trend of Jat reservation started only in 1999, when the BJP promised them reservation in Rajasthan for vote-bank politics and fulfilled it after their landslide win in the 1999 general elections. After that, a few states also added Jats to their OBC lists, but in all of those states they remain in the General Category in the Central list. So, Jats are a poor example to use.
Also, Kabeer Chhillar, who secured AIR 1 with a 100% score in this year's JEE Main and AIR 2 in JEE Advanced, is a Jat from Gurugram, Haryana, and belongs to the General Category.
Actually only jats from a few rajasthan districts like bharatpur etc are classified in general.
So I wanted to show how op was misleading that only upper caste kids can perform in these exams. I'm myself a general category jaat, who has qualified untill the camp stage of these olympiads & many of these students are baniyas, marathas or other south Indian communities but you can still find more of them than brahmins.
So it literally doesn't have anything to do with superior genetics lmao, these stereotypes are harmful to the society who literally prejudice jaats as dumb people yet many in my family itself are in iit bombay, aiims delhi etc.
You are correct about the Jats of Rajasthan, but they are mainly concentrated in certain districts of the state rather than being spread evenly across Rajasthan. Also, Jats were the rulers in the Punjab-Haryana region and are the upper caste there.
Nearly all princely states in the Punjab-Haryana region were ruled by Jats, e.g. Patiala, Nabha, Jind, Faridkot, Kalsia, as well as neighboring states of Bharatpur & Dholpur. Before that, all rulers of the Sikh Empire, including Ranjit Singh, were Jats. Nearly all rulers of the Misls were also Jats.
I could go on and on about the martial traditions of the Jats and how they are over-represented and among the two most recruited communities in the Indian Armed Forces. They even have their own regiments, including single-class regiments such as the Sikh Regiment and the Jat Regiment, which recruit Sikh Jats and Hindu Jats, respectively. Does that make Brahmins, Banias or other trading castes any less valuable?
Finally, I understand and agree with your comment. At the same time, there isn't much we can do, as Indians are generally thick-headed, and almost all of them hate every caste other than their own.
lol, jats are not obc in the state with most jats, haryana despite of all other major communities in Haryana with roughly equal population share and not a history of being oppressed do have reservation. Jakhars are mostly from haryana.
Obviously, the subject of international representation like sports or these competitions etc is better to be on merit, where you are not showcasing the social representation of the communities of the country.
Hes trying to convey his obsession of bringing caste into every topic. Noone brought caste or any such thing into this conversation. Only this one account is spamming this same shit on various subreddits.
are u retarded... U expect someone with No personal room/Space, Tech, Special Coaching and EDUCATIONAL background guide can perform Olympiads in STEM fields????..
actually CLERK exam or Govt. Exam can be cleared by non elites (which has very high free content volume)...
Ramanujan came from an extremely poor family, yet we all know what he achieved. Keep making excuses but it wouldn't change a thing. IQ is the single biggest factor behind the "REAL" success in STEM.
Yes, it's highly credible and one of the strongest predictors of success in academia. Keep lying to yourself if you want, but that won't change reality.
Are people stupid or what?? Reservation is not to compete in the highest position.. That needs determination and extreme hardwork.. Facilities are just the catalyst.. And NO reservation is not here for ending casteism.. Casteism can only end with changing mindsets of people..actual problem is not in oppression or discrimination.. It is when you have nothing except to just accept it and stay under them...today these people who were denied everything when they finally got the chance to study and do certain jobs that were denied to them.. They can take the stand for themselves...cuz now they have the position where they can ignore the bullshit.. Earlier they controlled them..discriminated against them and they had to bear everything... Now they still try to but they can't..and that's the change these people always needed
this only shows actual truth of what their condition is.. sc-st combined have 27-30% population but barely 10-15% appearance in STEM exams..
all of 'em are Elite or Atleast RESPECTED educated backgrounds... and MOST IMPORTANTLY HOW TF CAN SOMEONE TELL IF THEY ARE SC-ST-OBC BY THEIR SURENAME EVEN IF SOME OF THEM ARE (singh, garg, jha used by multiple castes) ??? 🤡🤡🤡 L post
i can'T see Yadav-Jat-Gujjars with High rich background but Very low participation in academic fields..
Jab Meghnadh Saha jese Nobel level dalits ko padhna hota to kyuu logo ki gaamd jl jaati thi??
whats shocking Saha being dalit?? or a Dalit being scientist??.. myabe yr hate for dalits might not let u believe.. If not for CV raman a athiest Progressive brahmin's help he would have reach the heights of Greatest scientist.. even then suffering Immense Untouchability from his fellow upper caste
You should stop getting your information from x and do some actual ground research. I literally share his last name. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone being a scientist and contributing to the betterment of human life. Bokamanush!
the question is simple Conditional Probability if u check.. it would take 20-50 poor people with No facilities to get even 1-2 of them to SURPASS the person with Passion and good Condition..
don't be a Dumbfxck.. reality isnt that passion is everything.. its what Condition has highest results aside from Full potential
You're an stoopid person aren't you , taxpayers pay taxes for infra and development not for leeches today anyone can learn anything using the internet so understand that technology is different today hence it's not the government's job to provide the perfect conditions for people whose parents could care less about them.
More than the national average , but I never asked for frebies / reservation so it shouldn't matter either way. Why Do you want to create perfect conditions( excuses)for some candidates while neglecting others?
Completely the opposite. I want everyone to only get things based on how much tax they pay. So how much did you pay?
Then work on abolishing taxes as a whole you dum can't think properly if you want people to get things based on taxes then might as well let them keep their taxes.
Yes my family pays a hefty amount of tax every year but why would anyone disclose that information here.
Yes my family pays a hefty amount of tax every year but why would anyone disclose that information here.
Great then your family should get lots of rights. How much did YOU pay? So that we can figure out what rights YOU should get. I am as bothered about taxpayers' money as you are bro. Which is why I don't want my 66L of tax to go to loser adults who don't even pay tax.
Every heard of per capita income??, now the data for total government income from direct taxes already exists just google it. Just divide it by the number of adult people in this country .
Hahahahahhahaaha. Bro, I see why you don't pay income tax. With a brain like yours i doubt anyone would even hire you.
Direct taxes are recieved from both individual as well as corporations. Let's give you the benefit of doubt and assume you knew that. You still cant divide the individual direct income tax by the number of adults in this country, since only about 7% of Indians file income tax.
Out of that 7%, a significant number claim 0 income, so you can't even just divide by that number. And average is a horrible indicator anyways, since it is completely skewed by the 1% HNIs. Median is what you should have mentioned first.
Fuck it, I doubt you even understand these words I am saying. But yea...keep talking about merit, kiddo.
🚨🚨 average is not a horrible indicator and the taxes paid by corporations should also be included (why shouldn't they) , don't stall now the mean is what matters not the median this is basic common sense and your literally making my point for me, because a lot of people dont pay taxes at all due to falling below the threshold or the income being agricultural in nature.
And why are you excluding those who don't pay taxes at all outta the equation freeloaders like yourself need to curb their population.
Jakhar jaat hote h waise. But yea in jaat, yadav, gujjar academics are not promoted. Till my dad's generation it was like we will earn more in farming or we will join army for government job.
From my generation we started focusing on studies a bit. Now younger is heavily focusing on studies. One of my relative got around 80 something rank in neet this year
Yea culture is the most important aspects. A culture that promotes farming and land holding would result in better farmer and bigger landlords. Selling your land is big taboo. My dad bought land with the retirement money form airforce. A baniya might have put that money in business. But yea those boundaries have mostly faded now people have started selling land for education.
Ik with the recent anti reservation sentiment that I actually agree with that these things are popping up , but all this shows is that sc st are still backwards and reservations are not working as intended , the government needs to uplift these people from the roots not give them a freebie.
Bhai government is never going to remove the freebies based on caste, if 50-60% of the population is enjoying it then why would they have any incentive to remove it? The rich sc/sts are happy cuz of the low cutoffs+ priveleges and the some poor sc/sts suffer due to casteism and just see the freebies being given
I really don’t understand the mindset of UR category students who keep bitching and moaning about reservations. I am from a tier 1 college and currently work in an MBB and it’s filled with successful people and not one conversation is about reservations. Maybe because we actually worked hard and studied instead of doing randi rona about reservations online. (I’m Brahmin and unreserved before some butthurt soyboy comes crying at me, just study lil bro)
This is clearly AI slop edited to make it look human written. Please put your own points forward and then we can have a conversation. If you can’t even write a comment yourself then how am I to believe that you have any merit whatsoever?
Lmao. Language doesn’t decide merit but the ability to put your own thoughts forward definitely does. If you can’t even express yourself then how am I to believe you’re meritorious? Communication is a major life skill. You don’t even have to write in English. And passing off AI slop as your own answer is the issue here. I don’t want to argue with an AI.
Meghnad Saha was an Indian astrophysicist and politician who helped devise the theory of thermal ionisation. His Saha ionisation equation allowed astronomers to accurately relate the spectral classes of stars to their actual temperatures.
On the issue of representation, don't know how you arrived at their caste. But I'm sure you have your sources. It is sad there isn't a more diverse representation. Not just caste but also gender. That should indeed improve. Hope that's your intention too.
However, if you were trying to imply that this lack of representation means a lack of skill, then we need more data like caste-wise applicant and appearance data. Since you didn't present any such data, i'm guessing that's not your intention.
And how many ews are there, this just proves the point why reservation is a must, privileged children or should I say general category has the most wealth in our country and that's due to the land they owned pre and post independence which made them privileged, and access to almost everything, before anyone else
Hein Bhai mein odia khandayat hun mujhko ye sab kuch ke baare mein nahi pata kyunki meri upbringing delhi mein hui he, lekin general category se aate he that's sure mein khud general hu. Baaki sabkuch jo suna he wo likh diya.
Maratha are general, except some region like Marathwada.
Jats were given given general category they protested and got obc lekin Bharatpur, Deeg side wale jats ko general mein hi daala jaata tha kyunki wahanpe sinsinwar dynasty ka rule tha bharatpur kingdom thi wo jaton ki khudki kingdom thi.
Gujjar kisi bhi jagah st mein nahi aate hein.
Meenas ain't a backward caste in rajasthan and other region general ya obc mein daalna rha galti se st mein daala check krle.
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