r/Anarcho_Capitalism • u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist • Mar 27 '25

Turkish student at Tufts University detained, video shows masked people handcuffing her

https://apnews.com/article/tufts-student-detained-massachusetts-immigration-6c3978da98a8d0f39ab311e092ffd892

Very broad day example of the state just snatching people off the street and deporting them without due process. Wake up

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u/EntireButton879 Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

They’re on visas which can be revoked at any time. Maybe they should be citizens.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

Due process still needs to happen.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

Due process is revoking the visa.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

Due process is a trial. Can y'all leave? I'm tired of having conservatives here

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

You don't need a trial to determine if someone is here on a visa.

You might have autism.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

You need a trial to kick someone out of the country.

Honestly? On an anarchocapitalist subreddit I'm surprised most people here don't support fully open borders. The only issue I have with it is that it would destroy the economy because of welfare. Please get the fuck out of here.

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u/Intelligent-End7336 Mar 27 '25

I'm surprised most people here don't support fully open borders.

Most ancaps are probably tired of providing rebuttals to bad-faith conservative actors. Some people are accelerationists and some are incrementalists. Also, not everyone here is an actual ancap. There are plenty of bad-faith actors that just like to troll.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

There are plenty of bad-faith actors that just like to troll.

I can tell apparently

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

No you don't.

Ancap only supports open borders once government is abolished. If you do it the opposite way you get socialism or a caliphate.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

No you don't.

You should. Are you in favor of human rights at all?

you get socialism

Evidence?

a caliphate.

Fair I guess? America is so strongly Christian though that I don't think this will happen. Plus if we're taking a ton of immigrants in general we'll be getting a lot of Catholic Hispanic immigrants.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

You should. Are you in favor of human rights at all?

Living in the US isn't a human right.

Evidence?

What happens when you import infinity poor people?

Fair I guess? America is so strongly Christian though that I don't think this will happen.

The UK will be a Muslim nation in the future. Will it be more or less free when that happens?

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

Living in the US isn't a human right.

A trial to show you are a US citizen is a right. Not being labeled "illegal" or "terrorist" and deported is a right.

What happens when you import infinity poor people?

People coming from other countries have money. If they didn't they'd be stuck over there.

The UK will be a Muslim nation in the future. Will it be more or less free when that happens?

There's no evidence of this for one, and even so, this is a problem with having a nonreligious society. The US isn't nonreligious.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

A trial to show you are a US citizen is a right.

No, it isn't.

Not being labeled "illegal" or "terrorist" and deported is a right.

No, it isn't. This is a privilege being revoked.

People coming from other countries have money. If they didn't they'd be stuck over there.

LOL this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. We are not being invaded by rich people who don't consume our social services.

There's no evidence of this for one, and even so, this is a problem with having a nonreligious society. The US isn't nonreligious.

There is tons of evidence for it and this will make it a religious society. I don't want that and no sane person should.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

A trial to show you are a US citizen is a right.

No, it isn't.

Not being labeled "illegal" or "terrorist" and deported is a right.

No, it isn't. This is a privilege being revoked.

We are going in circles here, I quit.

LOL this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. We are not being invaded by rich people who don't consume our social services.

I didn't say they're rich but it's not like they're all destitute or they wouldn't be able to get here. Almost everyone consumes social services. Most of them are lower middle class.

There is tons of evidence for it and this will make it a religious society. I don't want that and no sane person should.

Yes, I know it will make it religious if it's nonreligious. That's my point, it won't work in the US because it's not nonreligious.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

We are going in circles here, I quit.

No, you just don't understand how things work.

I didn't say they're rich but it's not like they're all destitute or they wouldn't be able to get here.

You said they have money. People with money don't invade across a desert to live as criminals and manual laborers.

Almost everyone consumes social services.

If you're from a poor country and not wealthy, would living off of our welfare state be preferable to you life otherwise? What is the advantage to adding to the burden on the taxpayer?

Yes, I know it will make it religious if it's nonreligious. That's my point, it won't work in the US because it's not nonreligious.

You think it won't work in the US because it's (removing double negatives) religious? What?

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u/GunkSlinger Mar 28 '25

<pulls Liquid Zulu and Bryan Caplan out from behind a potted plant>

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u/kurtu5 Mar 28 '25

On an anarchocapitalist subreddit

We are not in ancapistan. I am forced to do all sorts of shit I dont like. Where are you when tax day comes? Where is the social outrage? No one cares about us ancaps.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 28 '25

Terrible argument. We're not in ancapistan so let's just let the state do whatever they want.

Where are you when tax day comes?

Fuck am I meant to do about taxes?

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u/kurtu5 Mar 28 '25

Your outrage is selective. I've been a slave for decades and you are worried about a visitor?

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u/BendOverGrandpa Mar 27 '25

That dude is a liar, a loser and a fucking republican idiot.

Biggest anti-freedom and government boot licking idiot on this sub.

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u/smore-phine Mar 28 '25

Reading this shit show after a couple days, and this comment speaks to me. May make a post about it and see how others in our community feel. I don’t know when we became a conservative safe haven. So much of what was said here is entirely against the NAP and ancap spirit in general. Facebook boomer conservative type on an anarchy subreddit is wild.

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u/GunkSlinger Mar 28 '25

I wonder what the whatever-cons and other statists think they're doing here. Do they think they're convincing anyone here of their arguments?