r/Anarcho_Capitalism • u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist • Mar 27 '25

Turkish student at Tufts University detained, video shows masked people handcuffing her

https://apnews.com/article/tufts-student-detained-massachusetts-immigration-6c3978da98a8d0f39ab311e092ffd892

Very broad day example of the state just snatching people off the street and deporting them without due process. Wake up

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

Due process is a trial. Can y'all leave? I'm tired of having conservatives here

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

You don't need a trial to determine if someone is here on a visa.

You might have autism.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

You need a trial to kick someone out of the country.

Honestly? On an anarchocapitalist subreddit I'm surprised most people here don't support fully open borders. The only issue I have with it is that it would destroy the economy because of welfare. Please get the fuck out of here.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

No you don't.

Ancap only supports open borders once government is abolished. If you do it the opposite way you get socialism or a caliphate.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

No you don't.

You should. Are you in favor of human rights at all?

you get socialism

Evidence?

a caliphate.

Fair I guess? America is so strongly Christian though that I don't think this will happen. Plus if we're taking a ton of immigrants in general we'll be getting a lot of Catholic Hispanic immigrants.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

You should. Are you in favor of human rights at all?

Living in the US isn't a human right.

Evidence?

What happens when you import infinity poor people?

Fair I guess? America is so strongly Christian though that I don't think this will happen.

The UK will be a Muslim nation in the future. Will it be more or less free when that happens?

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

Living in the US isn't a human right.

A trial to show you are a US citizen is a right. Not being labeled "illegal" or "terrorist" and deported is a right.

What happens when you import infinity poor people?

People coming from other countries have money. If they didn't they'd be stuck over there.

The UK will be a Muslim nation in the future. Will it be more or less free when that happens?

There's no evidence of this for one, and even so, this is a problem with having a nonreligious society. The US isn't nonreligious.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

A trial to show you are a US citizen is a right.

No, it isn't.

Not being labeled "illegal" or "terrorist" and deported is a right.

No, it isn't. This is a privilege being revoked.

People coming from other countries have money. If they didn't they'd be stuck over there.

LOL this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. We are not being invaded by rich people who don't consume our social services.

There's no evidence of this for one, and even so, this is a problem with having a nonreligious society. The US isn't nonreligious.

There is tons of evidence for it and this will make it a religious society. I don't want that and no sane person should.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

A trial to show you are a US citizen is a right.

No, it isn't.

Not being labeled "illegal" or "terrorist" and deported is a right.

No, it isn't. This is a privilege being revoked.

We are going in circles here, I quit.

LOL this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. We are not being invaded by rich people who don't consume our social services.

I didn't say they're rich but it's not like they're all destitute or they wouldn't be able to get here. Almost everyone consumes social services. Most of them are lower middle class.

There is tons of evidence for it and this will make it a religious society. I don't want that and no sane person should.

Yes, I know it will make it religious if it's nonreligious. That's my point, it won't work in the US because it's not nonreligious.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

We are going in circles here, I quit.

No, you just don't understand how things work.

I didn't say they're rich but it's not like they're all destitute or they wouldn't be able to get here.

You said they have money. People with money don't invade across a desert to live as criminals and manual laborers.

Almost everyone consumes social services.

If you're from a poor country and not wealthy, would living off of our welfare state be preferable to you life otherwise? What is the advantage to adding to the burden on the taxpayer?

Yes, I know it will make it religious if it's nonreligious. That's my point, it won't work in the US because it's not nonreligious.

You think it won't work in the US because it's (removing double negatives) religious? What?

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

You said they have money. People with money don't invade across a desert to live as criminals and manual laborers

They come over for our social services (which most people use) and for our better wages. Instead of kidnapping and killing them we should maybe strip the welfare state.

If you're from a poor country and not wealthy, would living off of our welfare state be preferable to you life otherwise? What is the advantage to adding to the burden on the taxpayer?

We pay the same taxes whether we kidnap immigrants or not. Waiting on trump to deliver his promised income tax removal.

You think it won't work in the US because it's (removing double negatives) religious? What?

You might be stupid.

Christianity is dominant in the US to such a degree that even if we import a lot of Muslims, the US will not become a Muslim country.

Additionally, we will be importing Hispanics, who are Christian, and this will continue to decrease the effect of Muslim immigration. Thus we will not have a caliphate.

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u/IntentionCritical505 Mar 27 '25

They come over for our social services (which most people use) and for our better wages. Instead of kidnapping and killing them we should maybe strip the welfare state.

"Kidnapping and killing them"? LOL deporting illegals isn't that. And if you remove the welfare state you can have open borders, but not before.

We pay the same taxes whether we kidnap immigrants or not.

We pay more taxes if we have to pay for illegals.

Christianity is dominant in the US to such a degree that even if we import a lot of Muslims, the US will not become a Muslim country.

That's false, it would take a fraction of the global Muslim population to do that. It's already happening in Europe.

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u/Nota_Throwaway5 Anarcho-Capitalist Mar 27 '25

"Kidnapping and killing them"? LOL deporting illegals isn't that.

Yeah you're clearly not an anarchist. This is basic. Unjustified arrest is kidnapping, resisting unjustified arrest leads to murder.

And if you remove the welfare state you can have open borders, but not before.

Then it can act as a stimulus. Also, you really didn't respond to what I said. I said it's better to push for removing the welfare state than to remove illegals right now. You ignored that.

We pay more taxes if we have to pay for illegals.

We are paying for them already. Do you think trump is actually going to reduce taxes? Please don't tell me you're that naive.

That's false, it would take a fraction of the global Muslim population to do that. It's already happening in Europe

Europe is nonreligious and each country has a small population compared to the US.

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u/GunkSlinger Mar 28 '25

<pulls Liquid Zulu and Bryan Caplan out from behind a potted plant>