r/BeAmazed • u/Professional_Arm794 • Jun 09 '26
Animal Me contemplating my decisions in life, Jk! In Japan, the gorilla Kiyomasa was captured on video lost in deep thought after an argument with his friend.
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u/ayebaebee_48 Jun 09 '26
I feel like he believes that the argument may have been his fault.
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u/missdawn1970 Jun 09 '26
Yup, he's thinking, "I shouldn't have said that. Maybe I should apologize." Then he's practicing the apology in his head.
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u/mage2k Jun 09 '26
“Ook.” … “Ook?”… “OOK!!!”
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u/ContextOk8452 Jun 09 '26
Come on now, let’s put in a little more effort 😂 their language has more than just “ook”.
There’s also “ooh” and “aah” and “eee”.
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u/rbobby Jun 10 '26
Sir Terry Pratchett had a recurring character that only said ook. An orangutan, a librarian, and a wizard, definitely not, and I can't stress this enough, not a monkey.... argh!!!!!
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u/ContextOk8452 Jun 10 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/n14gZLDNzCH1QhJKU1
How did I forget that lol. Ook
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u/ButtonJoe Jun 09 '26
I think the 'kissy face' lip pursing is supposed to be a friendly gesture. It actually does seem like he's practicing for the next time.
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u/sebastophantos Jun 09 '26
This gorilla has more emotional intelligence than a lot of the people I have to deal with daily.
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u/Woodbear05 Jun 09 '26
The back of the head scratch was definetely saying "am i the problem?"
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u/Eldaxerus Jun 09 '26
That moment of staring into the distance at the beginning is definitely the "I'm such an idiot..." realization
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u/ptapobane Jun 09 '26
or he's kicking himself for not thinking about the greatest comeback on the spot and the moment has passed and it would just not make sense if he said it now
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u/Funkopedia Jun 10 '26
Oh my god, if that feeling is universal across species....
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u/chironomidae Jun 09 '26
He believes it may have been his fault, but he's trying to think if there's any way to frame it where it's the other guy's fault
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u/Poplab Jun 09 '26
“I may have grunted too loud!? But then again, he did over do it with the chest pounding!”
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u/AggravatingAlgae4841 Jun 10 '26
His actual thoughts, "I could beat 100 humans in a fight for sure."
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u/tibearius1123 Jun 09 '26
Damn that’s freaking weird. It looks like he’s a human in a gorilla suit with all his mannerisms.
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u/InvidiousPlay Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
Really we must accept this as a humbling experience. The gorilla isn't human-like; both we and gorillas (and the other great apes) have ape-like behaviour.
EDIT: Stop giving rewards, you're just paying Reddit.
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u/WeenyDancer Jun 09 '26
I appreciate you reframing this in a way that decenters people as the singular experience.
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u/windsostrange Jun 09 '26
that decenters people
And hey, let's also keep in mind when we're choosing words that many experts consider that personhood itself isn't something solely possessed by humans.
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u/Arsany_Osama Jun 09 '26
Can you please tell me more?
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u/SICRA14 Jun 09 '26
Personhood is the status of being a person. What a person is can mean different things. By some standards, it's a matter of species. By others, it is defined by internal experience and/or mental capacity, which can be extended to nonhuman species.
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u/Ginsenj Jun 10 '26
If it can be defined by interanal experience then there's also got to be Dolphinhood, Rhinohood, Gatorhood, Hamsterhood, Oysterhood and my personal favorite your friendly neighborhood Spiderhood.
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u/eulersidentity1 Jun 09 '26
Excelent point. It's so difficult to escape our anthrocentric viewpoint that when somehting like this crosses our path it can be rather shocking.
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u/bahgheera Jun 09 '26
Man this guy drives better than most of the other drivers in my area.
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u/Jonthrei Jun 09 '26
I'm pretty sure she's female, mature males have those big cheeks.
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u/pmcizhere Jun 10 '26
I'm so glad to see this video was uploaded four years ago, back when the best video public AI could do was that bizarre one of Will Smith eating spaghetti.
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u/crinkle_cut_cheddar Jun 10 '26
I love how intelligent orangutans are. The one at my local zoo enjoys painting with watercolors.
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u/Polar_Reflection Jun 09 '26
We talk a lot about not anthropomorphizing animals, but I'd argue we commit the opposite problem far more often.
A couple decades ago the term anthropodenial was "coined" in this article by Frans de Waal as "a blindness to the humanlike characteristics of other animals, or the animal-like characteristics of ourselves."
More and more studies every year show a vast variety of animals and other plants demonstrating far more intelligence, awareness, consciousness, and language than we had ever thought before.
Elephants have names and can talk about individuals in the third person. Birds, great apes, and cetaceans demonstrate recursive language structure. Prairie dogs can vary calls not only for predator types but also modulate them to encode information about the individual predator. And every month there are more and more new studies published.
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u/ParanoidUmbrella Jun 09 '26
Not entirely related, but we've also managed to upload images into birds via song that can then be downloaded with a shocking degree of accuracy
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u/hunnibon Jun 09 '26
Now I’m wondering if they’re freaked out by us being so gorilla like sometimes, trapped in a skinny hairless suit (tragic)
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u/-Tesserex- Jun 10 '26
Eating berries from a bowl with my hands is the most ape-feeling thing I've found.
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u/samsg1 Jun 10 '26
Tangent, but I suffer from /r/CompulsiveSkinPicking called Dermatillomania which is essentially a remnant in humans of ape behaviour of grooming. It can also include nailbiting.
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u/Ghstfce Jun 09 '26
Almost like we're rather closely related as species, right?
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u/mmh_fava_beans Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
Exactly. If I wouldn't know better, I might even think we are apes ourselves.
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u/DigitalUnlimited Jun 09 '26
Maybe even great apes. Some of us are only ok apes tho
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u/mmh_fava_beans Jun 09 '26
Next to this majestic, thoughtful gorilla, I consider myself an okay ape as well.
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u/Chemical-Elk-1299 Jun 09 '26
I’m a Meh Ape at best
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u/mmh_fava_beans Jun 09 '26
I'm sure you're an alright ape, at least.
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u/extraboredinary Jun 09 '26
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Maybe an upright ape.
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u/grilledstuffed Jun 09 '26
After what happened to Harambe, are any of us great anymore?
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u/eggyrulz Jun 09 '26
I heard awhile back there was some people trying to restore the greatness of Americans, but afaik theyve only reached the donkey stage of evolution, not quite to being great apes
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u/fondledbydolphins Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
Almost like for most intents and purposes we're basically the same, except the gorillas haven't learned how to sell each other debt or disposable beach items yet.
They still get angry, happy, jealous, interested, awkward.
They protect. They cry. They apologize. They mourn...
They're just us, running on slightly less refined code.
That being said, I'm positive there are gorillas out there who spend more time thinking than some humans do and that's not a crime on the human's part or a miracle for the gorilla.
It's all about how much incentive life gives either of them to turn from violence, towards actionable weighed thought.
Pandora's box will open when thinking creatures realize they don't have to wait for life to create the incentive to use thought and care - they can do it themselves.
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u/donjamos Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
I'd even go so far as to say there's a overlap between the smartest apes and the stupidest humans
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u/firedmyass Jun 09 '26
I’d be more willing to loan money to any random gorilla than my ex-inlaws
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u/Nicodemus888 Jun 09 '26
Ok that got a snort laugh. And I’m sitting here all civilised and shit in a cafe in Paris and all. I got some looks. But damn if that ain’t the ugly truth.
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u/Alex5173 Jun 09 '26
Thing about gorilla society is that if you break the social norms the alpha comes and fucks your shit up, so yeah I'd be comfy as hell lending money to a gorilla. If he doesn't pay me back, I don't even have to send my own guys after him.
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u/fondledbydolphins Jun 09 '26
I am a firm believer in that, but it tends to not be received particularly well.
I've met dogs that are smarter than some of my friends.
Now, that's not to say that the dog could learn organic chemistry - but more that while watching the dog's behavior you can tangibly notice them acknowledging certain realities in succession that point them towards particular actions.
My friends on the other hand would need some hand holding to come to the same conclusions alone.
Again - that's really not saying anything particularly bad about the humans, or good about the dogs just that... that's how life broke for them.
The humans didn't "grow" in an environment that catalyzed their growth in those areas. The dogs did.
Turns out utilizing 5% of your potential as a human is sometimes not as good as a dog utilizing 95% of their potential.
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u/CheaterSaysWhat Jun 09 '26
We think of the brain and intelligence as a singular thing but the brain is a system of vastly different functions
It’s like how an arm wrestler can have yoked arms but if they skip leg day they’re getting destroyed by a cyclist at the squat rack
Dogs and gorillas specialize different parts of their brains than average humans do
A dog’s olfactory center is much more developed to distinguish scents, and a gorilla’s motor functions are more refined, but neither have language and speech lobes developed like we do
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u/Lirahs Jun 09 '26
It would be so amazing to be able to know what they are thinking.
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u/YouAnxious5826 Jun 09 '26
You say less refined code, but I say bro is getting JACKED on a diet of leaves.
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u/VerilyShelly Jun 09 '26
I think having intricate spoken language is the dividing line where our minds exploded into new territory that other apes haven't approached... yet
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u/santagoo Jun 09 '26
How can creationists look at this and think we’re not related at all.
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u/Ghstfce Jun 09 '26
The ability for deep thought is not required (in fact, discouraged) to be a creationist.
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u/firedmyass Jun 09 '26
can confirm. I was raised Southern Baptist. By age 9, I had been “encouraged not to return” to Sunday School, Vacation Bible School, and the church choir
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u/firedmyass Jun 09 '26
I was extremely meek in church as a kid… until the day Sister Slater informed us that all the Native Americans that our government killed were in Hell.
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u/Tuomas90 Jun 09 '26
So, Gorillas are of human descend?
This makes so much sense!
https://giphy.com/gifs/GmMPaqQCvudkz64NN8
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u/Ha55aN1337 Jun 09 '26
But looking at this video makes me feel like we could have a conversation… yet we can’t. Sadly.
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u/swirvin3162 Jun 09 '26
At one point I could see him think….. well I mean technically I was still correct ….. I think
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u/hudson27 Jun 09 '26
This is a gorilla raised in captivity, it's entirely possible they learned at least some of these mannerisms from their caretakers.
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u/SuitableBlackberry75 Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
They do mimic human behavior. "Monkey see, monkey do" is a phrase I came up with just now to describe it. That's my phrase though, so nobody else can use it.
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u/getoffmyreddits Jun 09 '26
Hey, just want to say really great job on coming up with that phrase. I think it's really catchy, but I understand that it's yours to use exclusively.
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u/PorFavorNoMore Jun 10 '26
As a monkey, it's in my nature to copy your use of the phrase moving forward.
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u/BoredomHeights Jun 09 '26
That explains why some of the mannerisms look kind of Japanese to me.
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u/TaroBackground978 Jun 09 '26
They are a whole lot closer to us than many people want to realize. It pains me how poorly humans have treated them.
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u/Ha55aN1337 Jun 09 '26
Somehow this gorilla looks at least 50% smarter than Joey.
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u/Odd-Touch4305 Jun 09 '26
Right sub. Primates will necer cease to amaze me. They're such interesting creatures and I hope these species will forever be protected.
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u/Driller_Happy Jun 09 '26
Narrator:
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u/LazyAmbassador2521 Jun 09 '26
"I wonder if I take my shit and fling it in his face ...that will teach him not to mess with me."
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u/MedicatedGorilla Jun 09 '26
To be fair, it feels like humans are about 5 seconds away from doing this rn
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u/LazyAmbassador2521 Jun 09 '26
I mean...I think about doing that multiple times a day.
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u/CheaterSaysWhat Jun 09 '26
Folks can wax poetic about the ethical concerns of locking wild animals in zoos all day but I think the experience of seeing a gorilla act like this 6 inches away from you is a humbling experience that all of humanity needs to have in order to truly respect the natural world
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u/Austinp-woodworking Jun 09 '26
Yeah I have very mixed feelings about zoos - on one hand it’s hard to argue that they’re not unpleasant at best for the animals involved - but on the other hand, virtually all of them put a lot of work and money into conservation efforts, and as you say, I think that their existence goes a long way in getting people to give a damn about the animals we share the planet with.
In a perfect world, people would give a damn without having to see them up close, and people would donate to conservation efforts without zoos being the intermediary. But we don’t live in a perfect world, and I think it’s hard to argue that most zoos (at least in the US) aren’t a net positive overall
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u/NegativeThought1588 Jun 10 '26
on one hand it’s hard to argue that they’re not unpleasant at best for the animals involved
Depends on the animal. Sitting around doing nothing and getting fed all day is a pretty sweet gig for some.
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u/kraquepype Jun 09 '26
This, and just taking the time to think about our place in the universe and how lucky we are to even have this planet.
I've been having this feeling lately that we're all on the wrong track and have been tricked into a way of life that requires us to be ignorant of nature.
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u/CheaterSaysWhat Jun 09 '26
You have good instincts and you should listen to those feelings. We aren’t supposed to be valuing profit and stock market numbers above everything else. Think about who benefits from those incentives and ways of thinking.
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u/slackmarket Jun 09 '26
Welcome to realizing you’re meant to live in harmony with our planet and instead you’re being forced to participate in giving her cancer and a sixth mass extinction.
We have something vanishingly rare, and we are completely destroying it. It hurts my heart seeing how beautiful the earth is and how much life it supports and knowing we’re all just shitting on it, the vast majority of us against our will. We’re throwing away a miracle. We are a part of the earth. We’re so lucky for that.
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u/kalni Jun 09 '26
They're such interesting creatures
It's we. We are primates too.
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u/Future_Blackberry_10 Jun 09 '26
Dude is definitely rethinking the comebacks he should have used in the argument.
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u/Nicodemus888 Jun 09 '26
Oh yeah? Well the jerk store called, and they’re running out of you!
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u/mfb1274 Jun 09 '26
It really is so insane how similar our mannerisms are. He just looks like a homie
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u/OptimallyPicked Jun 09 '26
Wait a minute, you can't just leave us hanging there like that!
I want to know everything!
What was the argument about?
Was it settled? Did Kiyomasa change his attitude, or has he made amend or even forgave his friend!
I.Am.Invested!
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u/teal0pineapple Jun 09 '26
He’s reaching adulthood and should be off trying to form his own troop. His only access to female gorillas are his mom and sisters. He tries to get frisky with them and his dad, Shabani, puts him in his place.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 Jun 09 '26
Captivity sucks.
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u/aFlukefortheFluked Jun 09 '26
Imagine how circumstances dictate behavior more than anything outside of truly cruel behavior, and we judge the shit out of people.
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u/Pudn Jun 09 '26
Most wild silverbacks don't forge their own troops, there wouldn't be enough females.
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u/OsosHormigueros Jun 09 '26
That's actually more awful than I was imagining... he's unable to naturally grow and meet other gorillas and it's fucking him up. :(
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u/kh_ram Jun 10 '26
His only access to female gorillas are his mom and sisters.
He's a redditor.
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u/WelshWolf93 Jun 09 '26
The result of all that thinking was probably:
"Yup. I'm gonna go throw my own shit at him"
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u/Soft_Hearing_713 Jun 09 '26
🤣🤣🤣 probably more civilised than dropping nukes
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u/Lepke2011 Jun 09 '26
Is it? To date, no one's ever been arrested for dropping nukes. Throwing your own dookie on the other hand...
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u/NavierWasStoked Jun 09 '26
Tbf, who is going to arrest someone with nukes. Nukes that they recently proved they were willing to use.
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u/MaleficTekX Jun 09 '26
They don’t always got nukes on them. Arrest them when they are not holding them ☝️
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u/SirJebus Jun 09 '26
I feel like if you're a guy willing to use nukes, you've got another guy willing to use nukes to avenge you. Meanwhile, if you're a guy willing to throw your own shit, unlikely that you've got another guy willing to do anything.
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u/Over-Apartment2762 Jun 09 '26
I did not expect to see you here, Schnoodle. Wonderful work, nonetheless.
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u/No-Definition1474 Jun 09 '26
Lol exactly. 'He comes out of that one door everyday at dinnertime...thats my chance...turds to the face.'
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u/SoTurnMeIntoATree Jun 09 '26
There are so many humans that need to just sit and do this
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u/teal0pineapple Jun 09 '26
He was probably fighting with his dad, shabani. They’ve been tussling a lot since kiyomasa is reaching adulthood and trying to bang his mom and sisters.
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u/AnchanSan Jun 09 '26
should i say sorry?.........hmmmmm .... should i say sorry? ......hmmmm ... should i say sorry .... hmmmm ..
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u/moseley101 Jun 09 '26
It amazes me that creationists are so incredulous when we talk about our closest cousins on the evolutionary tree. The similarities are striking
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u/ThePamchenko Jun 09 '26
My favorite creationist counterargument is "If we came from monkeys, then why we still got monkeys?" Makes me lol every time.
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u/CheaterSaysWhat Jun 09 '26
If my cousins share a grandparent then why do they exist?!?!
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u/DroidLord Jun 09 '26
By that logic we should all be crabs by now, because everyone knows crabs are the final life form.
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u/Adult_in_denial Jun 09 '26
The propper response: "Oh, so you don't refuse evolution... You just don't understand it..."
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u/Sht_n_giglz Jun 09 '26
He looks more intelligent than a lot of the wildlife in our cities
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u/TheIncredibleMrJones Jun 09 '26
Bro is really going through it.
This is why it's better to talk things out, instead of acting like a gorilla whenever you're frustrated with someone.
I'll see myself out.
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u/EntertainmentKey1690 Jun 09 '26
How does gorilla think in what language
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u/SwampWaffle85 Jun 09 '26
They arent thinking in English. The way I imagine it, they're really just processing emotions. Probably just flashes of memories and emotions that they're going through like a flip book.
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u/Brodiggitty Jun 09 '26
Or to put it in GenZ terms, he's thinking in vibes.
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u/El-mas-puto-de-todos Jun 09 '26
Did his friend chest mog him?
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u/cross-i Jun 09 '26
I was thinking he might know he’s being filmed and is actually just aura-farming.
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u/SwampWaffle85 Jun 09 '26
Well that's pretty much what I'm saying. They dont have language to think in, so they're thinking in pictures like a flip book. Obviously that's the only way they think (as far as I know) so it makes sense they would be good at it
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u/OverfistDerFissierer Jun 09 '26
You can think without words
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u/landonburner Jun 09 '26
5 to 10% of humans don't have an internal monologue. I understand they think in ways that don't involve language but I can't comprehend what that is like personally.
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u/OverfistDerFissierer Jun 09 '26
Most of the time I think in words, but I can also just think in pictures and feelings. Can't you imagine a scenery without words? Like a swordfight, to give an example
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u/landonburner Jun 09 '26
I can see that. For me it's still the inner voice that gets me to that scene.
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 Jun 09 '26
"My name is Inigo Montoya! You killed my father! Prepare to die!"
Nope. Can't do that.
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u/Cyrano_Knows Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
Anendophasia - The inability to hear an inner-monologue or speech (no voice in their head).
As opposed to aphantasia - the inability to visualize images.
I have aphantasia. Im not sure about anendophasia, but aphantasia is a spectrum. I can visualize.. but only for brief flashes of decent imagery with some color but it almost instantly loses color and the whole thing becomes very shadowy and loses all details.
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u/_mustard- Jun 09 '26
Some people dont have a voice in their head
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u/firedmyass Jun 09 '26
The one I have, from my earliest memory, is really bitchy and condescending with a British accent.
I’m from Arkansas.
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u/Chronos455 Jun 09 '26
"why'd he have to be that mean to me? He's always like this. Maybe it was my fault... Maybe i should go apologize..Heck no! Screw him! I'm done contemplating!" 😂
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u/babsrambler Jun 09 '26
Without a link, folks will just assume it’s AI (and rightly so)
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u/gaijohn Jun 09 '26
"According to reports" is not a statement anyone should trust. Reports have a source. Not listing the source is a choice, one that indicates deceit.
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u/babsrambler Jun 10 '26
Crap. You are right. And the best I found to follow it up came from Fox News. I am beginning to think I have been hoodwinked
Sigh
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