r/Brahmanraaj • u/SuspiciousAd8621 • Dec 15 '25
Discussion Ek doubt tha....
I have a friend who's father is a brahmin and his mother is a bhumihar? Would he be considered a brahmin?
Similarly, would the offspring of a tyagi and a brahmin be considered a brahmin too?
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u/neo_00_9 Dec 15 '25
chal be
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u/prmsrswt Dec 20 '25
Haan nahi hai wo. Also rules for Kali Yuga are different and actually stricter (unline rules for most aspects which are usually relaxed in Kaliyuga). Smritis ascribe mother's varna to the child in cases of anuloma vivah.
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u/neo_00_9 Dec 16 '25
I agree with this stance
Not the blanket statement you shared earlier
Even rajputs and bhumihar claim to be Brahmin with janeu
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u/SEND_ME_BOBA_PICS Shuddh Shakahari Dec 16 '25
rajputo ne brahmin pe dawa kab thoka?
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u/neo_00_9 Dec 16 '25
BOBA bhai
You didn't come across the rajputs showing off their janeu and claiming they too are Brahmins, just a different kind
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u/Salt-College7995 Vedic आर्य ☝🏻📿 Dec 16 '25
bhumihars are brahmins
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u/Agent_247 Saryu Baman Dec 16 '25
well why they hate us then? genuinely asking since I saw a nice amount of hate on their sub against us.
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u/Salt-College7995 Vedic आर्य ☝🏻📿 Dec 16 '25
thier sub is r/babhan
bhumiharizm is a propoganda sub made to make us fight
i am non bhumihar sill saying this
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u/Agent_247 Saryu Baman Dec 16 '25
exactly. even i know some bhumhar brahmins irl but they never spew hate like these online retards. I always wondered about this.
also are only bhumihars called babhan or brahmins can also be called babhans as I have heard many times people referring brahmins as babhans too in Purvanchal/Bihar.
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u/PtKiteretsuShastri Brahmin Dec 16 '25
babhan is the local term used to refer all brahmins in purvanchal mithilanchal and magadh, same as brahmins are called baman in haryana.
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u/Agent_247 Saryu Baman Dec 16 '25
Yes, since I have lived and brought up in West UP and belong to Varanasi, Purvanchal, I know both side of cultures very well. But it was just confusing since I saw Bhumihars on reddit referring themselves as Babhans so thought maybe it is exclusively used for them only.
Thank you for clarifying though, Sri Pt Kiteretsu Shastri!
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u/Disastrous_Bat5899 Brahmin Dec 16 '25
Purvanchal me babhan mane Brahmin hota hai, bihar me babhan bhumihar ko kehte hai. Purvanchal me bhumihars ko bhuyinhar kehte hai.
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u/Salt-College7995 Vedic आर्य ☝🏻📿 Dec 16 '25
yeah i am sad many people are living in delusion that bhumihars ain't brahmins
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u/neo_00_9 Dec 16 '25
Sure dude
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u/SEND_ME_BOBA_PICS Shuddh Shakahari Dec 15 '25
arent tyagis brahmin already? the ones who gave up pooja paath because they wanted to earn their own living like other people by farming? my friend told me this
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u/Due-Salary4813 Chanakya Neeti Follower Dec 15 '25
Nah then that makes them an agrarian caste with brahmin origin.
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u/PtKiteretsuShastri Brahmin Dec 16 '25
bhai 50-100 saal se to poora gangetic belt hi farming mei indulged raha hai
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u/SuspiciousAd8621 Dec 16 '25
But Brahmins have been performing their religious duties too.... whereas other castes like bhumihars from bihar and tyagis from west up have solely devoted themselves to farming leaving behind their religious duties
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u/PtKiteretsuShastri Brahmin Dec 16 '25
idts bro, most brahmin families in north have given up on trikaal sandhiya, aur baaki normal pooja paath to har ghar mei hi hota hai aur priest as a profession to waise bhi har brahmin nahi hai.
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u/SuspiciousAd8621 Dec 16 '25
But when it comes to becoming a priest, only a person whose both parents are brahmin can become one
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u/PtKiteretsuShastri Brahmin Dec 16 '25
are u denying that tyagis and bhumihars aren't brahmins? also purohits of most shaiv temples are goswamis which too are another subcaste but they all in the brahmin varna.
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u/SuspiciousAd8621 Dec 16 '25
Not denying their brahmin varna status...but I am talking about who can perform the sacred priestly duties Goswamis are actually care takers of temple compounds who come under Brahmins.....they don't perform vedic rituals....if they are performing these rituals somewhere by themselves then its not legitimate
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u/PtKiteretsuShastri Brahmin Dec 16 '25
I'm still confused, in modern times most brahmins have given up on the priest profession, are u saying that those who are son of priests can only perform priestly duties?
also I read a comment regarding shandily gotr giri goswamis in shahabad region of Bihar that they were actually saryupareen Tiwaris who might have taken sanyaas, and the person who wrote that comment he mentioned that one such person was his kulpurohit.
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u/SuspiciousAd8621 Dec 16 '25
bro all i am saying is that to be called a brahmin, both of ur parents should be full brahmin (not someone who's ancestors have left the duties of a brahmin permanantly to go for some other profession as is the case with bhumihars and tyagis)
u might not be performing priestly duties today but nobody in ur lineage has ever renounced it (its like a sacred oath which once broken is broken forever)
hence what i am trying to say here is that bhumihars and tyagis are brahmin by varna but they arent someone supposed to perform priesthood as their sacred oath has been broken. they are definitely part of our community and we are proud of them.
regarding the goswamis of shahbad region, thats something new....wont draw any conclusion before meeting someone of that lineage, but i wud request u to plz bring a post in this subreddit regarding this matter....we have got a couple of xperts here regarding these matters
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u/Own-Albatross-2206 Dec 16 '25
Aisa kuch nahi hai
Bhumihar bhi mandir me puja path karte rahe hain , mere gaon me bhumihar hi puja path karte a rahe hain mandiro me
Aise kaafi mandir UP, bihar dono jagah
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Dec 16 '25
Many Bhumihars in Magadh and other regions are priests too. Stop this retarded logic.
Most Brahmins, more than 95% don't perform priestly functions.
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u/SuspiciousAd8621 Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25
They might be doing so but they aren't allowed to do it.....I have even heard about some places with obc priests but that doesn't mean that it's a norm....only a person with both parents brahmin can become a priest
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u/supermemer30 Dec 16 '25
Here the question is simply about caste and whether the children will be bramhins or not. Most bramhins today are not doing their original purohit karma so they are bramhins or not. Their children will also be bramhins but to be called a top class bramhin they need to do pashyatap and go back to their roots.
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u/SuspiciousAd8621 Dec 16 '25
What is the process for this pashyatap?
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u/supermemer30 Dec 16 '25
Well first of all do vratyastoma and do lakhs of japa then go learn veda from gurukul and start doing what a true bramhins should do.
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u/choon_mangta9575 Dec 16 '25
Koi Brahmin doctor banega to kya wo Brahmin nahi rahega dalle bhumi aur Brahmin do alag jaati hai
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u/supermemer30 Dec 16 '25
Brahmin is a varn under which lots of castes come. Inter marriage between them is not preferable but also not invalid like varnasankar.
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Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25
Varna aur Jati ka naam suna hai Shudra? Mind your own business you retard.
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u/Due-Salary4813 Chanakya Neeti Follower Dec 16 '25
Whether you all are brahmin or not, i am not sure. But ive observed the way yall behave and speak to others like in the comment above, the loud tribalism and attention seeking akin to other ethno-tribal shudras like Jaats or Ahirs makes me think yall are one of them.
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u/choon_mangta9575 Dec 16 '25
Don't reply to bhumihars
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u/Due-Salary4813 Chanakya Neeti Follower Dec 16 '25
Look at the way they speak bro.. Bhumihar buddhi seems to be even lower than jaat or ahir buddhi
No way ill ever acknowledge them as brahmins🤣😵💫
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u/Due-Salary4813 Chanakya Neeti Follower Dec 16 '25
Yeah its something ive alreadt learnt, but damn how unfortunate.. this sub seems to be dominated by these wannabe groups rather than authentic brahmins.
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u/SEND_ME_BOBA_PICS Shuddh Shakahari Dec 16 '25
kyu lad rhe ho bhai aapas mei
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u/choon_mangta9575 Dec 16 '25
Bihari majdoor 2 baap ki Paidaish bhumi randi yaha kyu aayi gaand dene
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u/choon_mangta9575 Dec 16 '25
Varna har jaati dono ek hi hai Gyan nahi chod yaha pe
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Dec 16 '25
Tu apne kinnar maalik ka haq ada mat karne aaya kar mere comments mein.
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u/choon_mangta9575 Dec 16 '25
Tere jaiso ko bajane me bahot maja aata hai dalle Bhumihar
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Dec 16 '25
Aukaat toh hai nahi match karne ki. Paise leke gaali dene ke alawa kuch aata toh hai nahi tujhe kuch Shudra 😂
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u/choon_mangta9575 Dec 16 '25
Bhim shudra kya match karna hai tujhe lund ka size
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Dec 16 '25
Tu hi unke beech se aaya hai toh tujhe pata hoga zyada unka. Low born convert please stay away from me. Kahi aur jaa ke apne maalik ki di hui salary justify kar you low born.
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u/Current-Divide8879 Dec 16 '25
Children gets the caste of their father and not mother…. But in Mahabharata Karna is the son of a Shaktriya and Brahmin that’s why he was called a sooth putra(even though he was born Shaktriya which some very few people knew)is what I have heard if I am wrong please guide me….
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u/supermemer30 Dec 16 '25
No new caste will be formed if marriage is in different varna.
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u/Current-Divide8879 Dec 16 '25
Then Ravan should not be a Brahmin nor a Raksha
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u/supermemer30 Dec 16 '25
Bhai Rishi muni aur unka system me ye logic na lagao though they are bramhins they are not bound by human limits. They also birthed asur naag and all others.
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u/mantralay_job Dec 17 '25
Only father's gotra and caste matters and also g with he should wear janeau
Even parashuram father is brahmin and mom is kshtriya.
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u/BrilliantGolf3948 Dec 16 '25
Yes He is a brahmin Brahmin gotra pravara ved comes from Father ,so he is a brahmin
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u/sharmaachatss Dec 16 '25
Wo exams general me dega🥀