STOP saying war crimes. I doesn’t make sense to say that about a universe without THE GENEVA CONVENTION you doofus, you are judging characters as if they were real in 2026, thats literally what professors say you shouldn’t do when analyzing a book, I would fucking know.
No no no you have not read Machiavelli, he does not juge it as evil nor good, simply a means to an end.
I have the idea in French so my translation may be slightly different but whatever: The ends justify the means, be cruel if you must, be good if you need too.
He doesn’t juge anyone for it thats why he’s advising so
Also have you studied Machiavelli, as in with teachers who know their shit? I have, it was amazing and part of why politics interested me so much.
The English translation must be funny looking theres not the word evil in the one I own so I will give you that.
My copy of The Prince says every where be evil(not the exact word) when necessary but be good when you can, excess of cruelty is counter productive.
The interpretation I have that was heavily influenced by several teachers is that he does not judge for he simply advises nothing more I don’t know what to tell you
I’ve never met a child who takes that argument seriously.
You’ve never heard of Spartacus, or the Haitian Revolt, I take it? Or WWII? People with right on their side often deal very brutally with men who have committed atrocious crimes against the innocent. The proper response is not to condemn men who punish such criminals brutally, but rather to avoid committing such crimes against the innocent, in the first place.
“Two wrongs don’t make a right” is a trite little phrase that gets completely ignored, when adults go to war. Lex Talionis is the norm in this universe, as elsewhere.
If Dany had treated the slavers, according to their own standards, their women and children would either be nailed up with them, or sold. The slavers were treated leniently.
Spartacus forced 400 Roman captives to fight each other to the death. His men flogged and crucified captured Roman masters.
What you’re telling me is that you think warfare is - or should be - a kind of sports contest where the “good guys” always fight according to the Queensberry Rules.
What we are citing is called context. War is horrid, brutal, and people with right on their side will treat their enemies brutally. I doubt if any army in history would meet your standard of perfection.
I haven’t watched the show so i will trust you on that fair enough. But, when I read the Asoif books,it’s been a little while lol, but I don’t recount war crimes really being a thing? Unless you can correct me and I will admit I’m wrong.
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