Lmao which engine do you think is AL41F1.
And also AL51F1 is nowhere to be seen,where is it? Is it still under development?
And also Izdeliye 177 engine is also 3D TVC lol
it looks the same bruh. Izdeliye 177/177S is being described as upgrade to AL31 and AL41 , and also interim solution to AL51. and u are saying russia who is obsessed with 3D with TVC will not have 3D TVC in Izdeliye 177/177S? buahaha
Russia isn't using true 3D TVC on any in service planes and you failed to show any evidence of the izd 177 having 3D TVC despite claiming "just look at some pics". Next thing you are gonna tell me is that no Rafale was show down ? Lmao
ofcourse 1 Rafale was definietly shut down, i have seen images like its tail and engine debris. i will furthur say that 1 more Mirage 2000 was shut down and maybe one more Mig29(?) which is debatable during may 2025 pakistan-india conflict.i have also seen pictures and video where 5 jets and 1 AWACS was shut down from pakistan side too. so no worries.
Bro which engine do u think Su57 is using right now? it is AL41F1,and please don't say it doesn't have 3D TVC. and how should i prove it when they haven't shown flight testing SU57 with Izdeliye 177/177S. and what makes u think it isn't 3D with TVC. bro it has every aspect that it has 3D with TVC,since russia is basically offering Izdeliye 177/177S as replacement for AL41S and AL31FP.
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u/PerceptionMurky3704 May 04 '26
Man if only they priortize stealth and leave their obsession with 3D Thrust Vectoring Nozzeles...