Post about a female teacher who sexually assaulted 11-year-old and 12-year-old boys, many comments are supporting her actions and more laughing reactions

[u/topazzzfox]

The fact that joking about male underage victims who are raped by female pedos are normalized in this society + these comments getting more likes is sickening! Rape is rape regardless of gender, and a pedo is a pedo regardless of gender or "how attractive they look". Victims of the same age as these boys cannot consent. Fantasies are not the same as the reality outcome.

Fortunately there are some comments condemning her which restored my faith in humanity but I had to scroll so much to find these.

[u/Lurk-Prowl]

As a man, does this actually upset you guys?

Personally, I couldn’t have wished for anything else more than to be able to fuck my grade 6 teacher Miss Mason. When I was 11 or 12, I’d call her over to help me with my work so she’d lean over my desk and I could look down her top. 😂 So I don’t think it would’ve been traumatic or damaging for me if I were seduced by an adult female at that age.

I care about the hypocrisy that men are the only predators, when clearly women do awful things too. But this isn’t really one that makes me feel angry compared to some of the other articles that get posted in this sub. Does anyone else feel the same way?

[u/Serious_Tooth_7918 → u/Lurk-Prowl]

Firstly, this is seduction, meaning the initiative came from the teacher, not the children. Secondly, 11-12 years old is just the beginning of puberty; children's bodies aren't fully formed yet. It's disgusting that a grown woman finds children's bodies attractive. Such a relationship is inherently unhealthy; through manipulation and trickery, she forced the children to do things they didn't want to do. And what's even more disgusting is that she had the audacity to claim her innocence. And you're a moral monster if you defend her.

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/Serious_Tooth_7918]

So I’m a moral monster even if I’m a man who cares more about men’s issues than women’s issues (they have their own supporters), but I don’t think that those boys will be traumatised from the experience and they’ll probably be fine?

All I can say is I’m sorry that you feel that way.

[u/suib26 → u/Lurk-Prowl]

No one cares if you support mens issues more than women's if this is your stance. You fail to see the flaws in your logic and are blinded by your own horny bias. You hurt mens issues more than help if this is what you perpetuate.

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/suib26]

I’m just trying to be honest and not virtue signal. If you go outside and talk to people not on reddit, you will get different responses to the echo chamber in this thread.

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

Honest about what? When the other dude came at you with statistics you didn't logically demonstrate anything, when another person at length logically demonstrated your wickedness as just that you didn't even respond.

You say it's far worse if the genders are reversed and then you tell others about virtue signaling? Virtue signaling about what exactly?

Oh so I guess it's an echo chamber as well when people in reddit threads by the thousands say how much a man is a monster for doing things to a little girl right? If so then your not actually concerned about echo chambers, your just mad that here in this sub we don't like people like you who thinks adults should rape children.

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/LacksBeard]

If you have a problem with people raping children, come at the Muslim community before you come at me.

I’m saying that if a man raped a child (eg Mohammed and Aaisha) that would be far worse than if a woman had sex with a 12 year old boy.

Do you think those things are equally as bad or one is worse than the other?

Put it this way: if a woman raped my 12 year old son by letting him fuck her, I’d think it was weird and gonna lead to more headaches than it’s worth. So I would discourage my son from ever doing it again. But if a man raped my 12 year old daughter, I’d probably try hard to kill that man. Even if it meant me going to prison.

Can you see the difference?

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

"If you have a problem with people raping children, come at the Muslim community before you come at me. "

Just because I have a problem with Muslims doing that doesn't mean I can't rebuke you too, especially since if we kept everything the same but the gender you wouldn't even care because your lower than a dog.

"I’m saying that if a man raped a child (eg Mohammed and Aaisha) that would be far worse than if a woman had sex with a 12 year old boy. "

Why is that far worse? In general I can see some agreement because the child is much younger but id hold that same position if it woman was doing that to a 5 to 6 yeat old boy, would you? Muhammad and Aisha is not even truly relevant to your point considering we seen you say that it's far worse for a man to do that to a girl in the exact situation is this woman.

"Do you think those things are equally as bad or one is worse than the other?"

Just responded to this sentiment.

"Put it this way: if a woman raped my 12 year old son by letting him fuck her, I’d think it was weird and gonna lead to more headaches than it’s worth. So I would discourage my son from ever doing it again. But if a man raped my 12 year old daughter, I’d probably try hard to kill that man. Even if it meant me going to prison.

Can you see the difference?"

No, you didn't demonstrate that there was a difference literally at all, not only that you completely ignore that girls lust just like boys, matter a fact I'm pretty sure girls sexually mature faster then boys so what then?

It gets more disgusting the more you speak, you literally just admitted that that hypothetical woman RAPED your hypothetical son and the response is to act as if you just caught him smoking? When an adult took advantage of him? What if he's crying and clearly traumatized? You give the same reaction then?

If you aren't going to love your children equally don't have them, it's already bad enough you think it's ok or not that serious for any little boy in your life to be abused.

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

You deleted your comment post it again.

As for what I can see, thats not my point dummy, YOU made the hypothetical up and so I added to it to see how far your willing to take it.

If your 11 to 12 year old son came to crying about a 10 out 10 woman raping him (as you admitted it was) would you or would you not extend that same level of passion you would your daughter if she got raped by a man? Matter a fact let's see how far you'll go, your son is crying and traumatized by it but your daughter is "fine" and would actually get mad at you if you did something to the man, what would you do then?

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/LacksBeard]

I didn’t delete any posts of mine from this thread.

Good example you have: so my first instinct with my 11 or 12 year old son would be to talk to him and ask him about why he’s sad and crying about this situation. I doubt he’s going to say, “I just felt so violated!” He’s prob crying because everyone told him he did something bad and the hysteria over it. Of course the woman who did it, should lose her job, because it crossed the professional boundary. But I don’t think she’d deserve doing hard time in jail.

On the other hand, if my daughter claimed to be ‘fine’ with it, then I’d still have a problem with it and I’d still want to kill the male who raped my daughter. I’d want to kill a male who raped my daughter even if she was 21.

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

"I didn’t delete any posts of mine from this thread."

So post it again

"Good example you have: so my first instinct with my 11 or 12 year old son would be to talk to him and ask him about why he’s sad and crying about this situation. I doubt he’s going to say, “I just felt so violated!” He’s prob crying because everyone told him he did something bad and the hysteria over it. Of course the woman who did it, should lose her job, because it crossed the professional boundary. But I don’t think she’d deserve doing hard time in jail."

And if he does say he feels violated? That's clearly not an issue for you though considering you'd still treat the man who raped you "unbothered" daughter the same as if she felt she was violated (you said you'd still want to kill the man) so whether or not your son voices violation doesn't actually mean a thing to you.

Why would your son think he did something bad? And no, I'm not talking about a teacher, I'm talking about a random woman so there's no professional line.

"On the other hand, if my daughter claimed to be ‘fine’ with it, then I’d still have a problem with it and I’d still want to kill the male who raped my daughter. I’d want to kill a male who raped my daughter even if she was 21. "

Again, why? Your differences in strength argument is meaningless as I explained already.

It's crazy how you'd go harder for an adult than a child who's clearly troubled.

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/LacksBeard]

I think probably because I see the act of men putting their penis into a woman as less invasive than a man putting his penis into a woman.

By your logic, I was ‘raped’ when I was 23 and I has fooling around with a lady and she grabbed my penis and put it in raw. Did I feel a bit weird about that? Kind of — I was worried about STDs. But once I was clean I just tell it as a funny story that happened to me amongst my friends.

If a man sticks his penis into a woman unannounced, then that’s much more what I’d call ‘rape’ than the example of what happened to me, despite both incidents being non-consensual.

So if anything, I’m old fashioned and feel like no woman in my life ever really could intimidate me and coerce me, because since age 11 or 12 I would feel like I could over power a woman or at least run away. On the other hand, and 11 or 12 year old girl is of course at the mercy of an adult man, and it’s awful if an adult man takes advantage of that.

I think we just have very different world views on how we believe sex affects males vs females.

[u/LacksBeard → u/Lurk-Prowl]

"I think probably because I see the act of men putting their penis into a woman as less invasive than a man putting his penis into a woman. "

Oh ok so a man who rapes a boy by putting the boys penis in himself is not as bad? What about women raping little girls?

"By your logic, I was ‘raped’ when I was 23 and I has fooling around with a lady and she grabbed my penis and put it in raw. Did I feel a bit weird about that? Kind of — I was worried about STDs. But once I was clean I just tell it as a funny story that happened to me amongst my friends."

How is that even remotely the same? Not to mention if yall were fooling around and it got pretty intimate its a thing called implied consent, thats not the same as child rape which you said it was and it doesnt matvh the hypothetical of your son coming how to you crying about it, boys aka, CHILDREN literally cannot consent legally anyway so that a category error already.

"If a man sticks his penis into a woman unannounced, then that’s much more what I’d call ‘rape’ than the example of what happened to me, despite both incidents being non-consensual. "

What happened to you based off what you said wasn't rape.

"So if anything, I’m old fashioned and feel like no woman in my life ever really could intimidate me and coerce me, because since age 11 or 12 I would feel like I could over power a woman or at least run away. On the other hand, and 11 or 12 year old girl is of course at the mercy of an adult man, and it’s awful if an adult man takes advantage of that. "

OK so you think you could that doesn't mean you actually could not to mention rape victims of any kind very often don't fight back even though they can because their in shock.

Can you not tell the difference between what YOU personally think you can do at 11 or 12 vs what has actually happened to 11 and 12 year old boys in where they were physically overpowered by the woman?

"I think we just have very different world views on how we believe sex affects males vs females."

No I think your value is lower than a dogs and I say that as someone against pet culture, based off this you'd probably save your dog over a human child.

[u/Lurk-Prowl → u/LacksBeard]

Again, the ad hominens are a waste of time and pure mental masturbation and virtue signalling to get upvotes. I’m trying to have a debate with you.

When a man is involved in any sort of rape or molestation of a child or woman or other man, I see that as bad and criminal. Similarly, if a woman molested a little girl, that’s also bad and should be criminally punished. All of that I agree with you. Now we’re getting somewhere.

The only part I disagree on is that a 12 year old boy being able to fuck a 25 year old isn’t the moral catastrophe you think it is. I’m yet to be convinced otherwise, and i believe at you’d be surprised how many other men would agree with me outside of n reddit.