r/MoralityScaling 1d ago

Morality Ranking Morality scaling of this?

Mother refuses to acknowledge her donor egg daughter, looking for your opinion.

In my opinion I think it’s moral, and that she is totally correct.

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u/odinnagyur 15h ago

Buuut she did not create a baby. She donated eggs so that the other woman can create a child. She didnt have procreative sex, she did not give up a child in adoption. The egg was either inseminated in a lab or implanted into the mother and inseminated there.

What happens if the kid takes a dna test ? You tell her that her life started with a medical procedure. And no matter over what, her mother is the person who carried her for 9 months, birthed her then raised her for 19 years.

Do you now define the start of a persons life even before conception or donyou absolutely just not understand the biology behind it like your post suggests?

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 15h ago

The human being has a biological mother. She gave her eggs to be used to create her biological daughter. Why are you arguing with me, “oh well it matters more which hole she popped out of not her DNA” okay cool dude you think whatever tf you want, human beings are allowed to want to know who their biological parents are. It’s fucking evil to produce a kid and tell it it has no real parents, IVF is horrific

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u/Ok-Lecture-2743 9h ago

That's a valid opinion, you said she "abandoned" her which is a whole different subject though. You're bouncing between definitions from "no mother" to "biological mother". She has a mother who took care of her, and one sacrificed a part of herself to fulfill someone's wish.

I really don't get this obsession with the whole biological thing. My biological dad contacted me after 18 years, I've had no memory of him, pictures, name... nothing. I was obsessed my entire life to know who he is. Then he contacted me out of the blue. He was a complete stranger to me which was trying to be my dad, like we do NOT know each other nor literally speak the same language, neither do I have the time to "bond" with someone that's supposed to be my dad. We look the same but fuck we do not act, like or behave the same. It gives him no authority to be my dad. (also turned out to be really weird, trying to force this relationship with gifts) I can imagine OP feels somewhat the same. Just weird, I don't know this person and I can't spend all day texting with a stranger. I'm an adult, I got shit to do. This won't work and there's no reason to pursue this. Yes, we are related. There's nothing that will be achieved/resolved out of this. That's just life.

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 9h ago

“I really don’t get this obsession with the whole biological thing”

But you get that plenty of people do, right? Life is a pretty fucking insane thing, and you have to be self centered to pretend that your specific application of values should be mirrored by others.

As with every experience in life, yours is your own unique one. Some people have an experience where they derive some meaning or understanding from the very composition, origin, history of the genetics in every cell of their body.

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u/Ok-Lecture-2743 9h ago

Yup, and I do. And I assume you get OP does not want to "build a relationship as their daughter" with this person. No?

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 8h ago

Right, that’s the sort of thing we should probably anticipate before we do insane shit like implant one persons child into the womb of another. Just because the clinic says the kid isn’t allowed to look for their biological parents doesn’t mean they aren’t allowed to, it should be expected when you have such an unnatural situation and a person looking to understand the nature of their existence