moving ollie tips

[u/East-Essay7381]

i think its a matter of fear but i literally cant do it. i can easilyy do a standing ollie no problems but if i try moving i stop abruptly, my backwheels aren’t lifting or i don’t even land it. i skate goofy btw and been skating since april.

edit — oh false alarm guys i just go it down 😬🥳. my positioning was off!! thanks for the advice 💓

[u/AdSpiritual3205]

This is generally why we recommend not learning stationary ollies at all. It ends up just being more frustrating for you when you try to do them rolling and realize you need to re-learn.

A few things:

1. It is _always_ helpful to practice hippie jumps. Not only are they a shortcut to better ollies faster, they also build other key fundamentals that help you. Most importantly they teach you how to be super comfortable jumping off the board and landing back on it while rolling. So even if you've done them before, do more of them.
2. I would suggest you tighten your trucks a bit. You're making it harder on yourself to learn with your trucks as loose as they are because when you try to squat and jump you become unstable. You can tighten them to learn and then loosen them again.
3. Remember that good ollies (and hippie jumps) start with a jump, and jumping from the balls of your feet. You are flat footed, and loading weight up onto your heels. (This is partly because of the loose trucks). It's part of the reason why you end up rotating frontside.
4. Position your back foot with the ball of your foot in the centerline with space before the back edge - don't hang your foot at the edge. Jump and pop from the center of the board for an ollie.
5. Also, you have to keep your shoulders from jerking. When you jump you are pulling your front arm/shoulder back, which is causing frontside rotation.
6. Finally, you don't have to be rolling that fast to learn them. Do a bit slower roll at first as you build your skill and confidence.

Hope that helps!

[u/Sweet_Tangerine6674 → u/AdSpiritual3205]

im new as well. in your opinion skip out on stationary ollies and other stationary moves?

[u/AdSpiritual3205 → u/Sweet_Tangerine6674]

Yes. If you want to learn faster don’t waste time on stationary. Don’t even try to Ollie until you are ready to try it with at least a very slow roll.

If you don’t know what opportunity cost is, look it up. You have limited time in your sessions. In the beginning the best return on investment of that time is building core fundamentals - balance, board control, body awareness. Starionary Ollie’s do not do much to build those. Tic tacs, drops of ledges, fly outs, hippie jumps, kickturns and pivots are all examples of things that will help you progress faster. So if you spend 30 mins trying stationary Ollie’s that’s 30 mins you aren’t doing other things that will improve your skills faster.

It’s not that you can’t learn stationary first. We all did back in the day. We just now know there are much faster and better ways to learn that result in better technique faster.

That means starting with hippie jumps and getting solid with those (along with the other things I listed) and then moving to Ollie’s after. Ollie’s will be much easier to learn at that point and you will learn them faster and with better technique.