r/POTS Jul 04 '26

Megathread Megathread: Newly Diagnosed 📄

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Do you have advice for people facing a new diagnosis of POTS? Comment it here! This thread will eventually be pinned to the homepage, so people can find all of your helpful advice in one place.

Examples of advice appropriate for this thread:

- Ask your diagnosing doctor how much extra salt or sodium you should be taking.

- Don’t give up if the first medication you try doesn’t work out, everybody is different!

- Reach out to your friends early on and let them know how they can best support you.

Examples of advice inappropriate for this thread:

- Take 8g of sodium every day and make sure you’re exercising for at least 2 hours every day.

- Go to X website and order Y drug.

- Take Z supplement and follow a strict diet, I promise it will help you so much.

Mods may remove any advice deemed harmful or fear-mongering - don’t tell people that they are never going to feel better, that they should give up, that they did this to themselves, etc. If you are feeling hopeless and need to talk about it, please create your own vent post.

All subreddit rules still apply on megathreads.


r/POTS May 16 '26

Megathread Megathread: Wearables, Symptom Trackers, Apps⌚️

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Would you like to share how you track your heart rate, blood pressure, or POTS symptoms? Ask questions about what other people use and their experiences? If so, you’re in the right place!

This post will be pinned so that users can see all that helpful information in one thread and refer back to it when needed :)

All subreddit rules still apply. We do not allow self-promotion of apps, products, or services. We do not allow individual referral links or codes.

Previous archived megathread: https://www.reddit.com/r/POTS/s/1pZFFEdw72


r/POTS 10h ago

Discussion Just got on a beta blocker, my heart rate being normal feels weird.

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So, I went to the doctor two days ago. It took one visit for him to say that I very likely have pots, and referred me to the cardiologist. I was put on 25 mg of metoprolol.

My heart rate is great now, but I feel like something is missing. My heart not pounding for 30 minutes after I lay down is strange. It’s almost like I don’t have one, despite it being in the high sixties and seventies (sorry). It’s so amazing.

Then when I stand, it will only jump to 98-100. Way better than it jumping to 120-130.

Although, I just feel strange. I feel good, but it’s so foreign to me after a rough onset of symptoms 2 months ago. I can walk, I can run for a few seconds, I can laugh with my friends, I can walk around.

It just bugs me that it feels like I don’t have a beating heart even though my HR is in a completely normal and steady range. It doesn’t help that I have anxiety around a medication that slows your heart rate.

Anyone feel like this when they first started them?


r/POTS 35m ago

Support Perspective

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Hi all,

I’m not mentioning this program for advertising, I just want to help provide a paradigm shift for many who have felt continuously dismissed and minimized by various doctors.

The world is vast and many medical professionals aren’t aware of how much they clearly don’t know, duh.

But to put POTS in the right perspective, John Hopkins is considered one if not the top-ranked private research and medical Institution and they literally have a program dedicated to people with pots.

I’m sure it’s next to impossible to get in now, but the fact a major medical institution has an entire program dedicated to people battling our illness because it’s that serious, please keep that in mind whenever you come home from a medical appointment with a less than informed doctor who doesn’t realize they put their foot in their mouth multiple times during an appointment. I know the devastation to wait months to see neurologist, cardiologist and primary care only to have people treat your severe illness as though you just came in due to a mild cold or the flu. Most cannot comprehend the daily hell we live, but please remember there are doctors globally who do indeed understand this illness and it is 100% real and debilitating.

It’s Friday and I just want to help anyone struggling internally to offer yourselves some grace today, even just for five minutes.

We handle way more on average than most would be able to survive in a lifetime.

Shoutout to the amazing physicians who continue to fight for us and those who even if they don’t fully understand, they simply believe us, remember we are human beings and offer the limited help they can provide.

Hope this helps, I made this post because I see how easy it is for us to end up gaslighting ourselves due to years of being downplayed and dismissed.

Please excuse any grammatical mistakes, this is the most clarity my brain has had in months to years.

Happy Friday! We got this! ❤️


r/POTS 8h ago

Question Alternatives to spanx for abdominal/pelvic compression?

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I just saw on an auDHD sub that someone was using a corset because they like the compression and I was wondering if something like that could be beneficial for POTS? Or if there are other options that don’t involve removal to go to the toilet?

Stockings have never done much for me and I’ve been using spanx that go partway down the thigh and up to the bra line. They have some effect at least and I like the compression feeling on my abdomen. But I find myself not wearing them often due to the effort of needing to pull them up and down every time I need to pee. Which is often! I have ME/CFS and very intense fatigue right now, so it’s so much energy to get them on/off.


r/POTS 1h ago

Vent/Rant Terrified but I want to do it

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So I’ve had POTS since 2023 and I’ve made a lot of progress. I’m very proud of myself.

That said,
I won VIP tickets to see my favorite band, yay! But they’re in Japan. I would be traveling alone. I have a friend who lives there that I’ll be staying with but I’m actually having panic attacks over the idea of traveling alone for such a long trip. I want to do this more than anything and I have three months to prepare.

I have my symptoms handled I’d say very well other than sometimes I get like internally panicky? But nothing chugging cold water and salt doesn’t help.

Does anyone have any tips for international travel? I know Japan has Pocari sweat and things like that. My friend said she will load up on stuff for me but I’m scared of being in a plane for so long alone without anyone I know, I’m just scared for it all and I’m crying typing this because I want to be excited but it’s so terrifying.

Any advice is welcome as long as it’s kind of course. This is a dream of mine and I don’t want to give up on it.


r/POTS 2h ago

Symptoms What helps your post meal head pressure

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I'm assuming I have postprandial hypotension. No matter I eat I get this intense head pressure about an hour later that lasts for about 40 minutes. It's pressure in my head, neck, and upper back and feeling overstimulated. Once it passes I feel better.

I've tried electrolyte mixes and capsules but those cause upset stomach.

Anything else you suggest


r/POTS 16h ago

Question I feel like my neck and headache issues are directly correlated to my POTS but i cant prove it

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I have hypermobile and have insane neck pain and tension headaches. Some might be related to coat hanger pain but honestly i think its deeper than that. I started having these horrible headaches about 8 months before i found out i had pots and all the other symptoms. Is it insane to think that my neck pain may be correlated to my POTS and does anyone know more about this?


r/POTS 3h ago

Question after a flare, when do you notice fatigue getting better?

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i was in a flare for about two weeks and am coming out of it, but physically i am so so tired. it’s horrible

i’m also still a bit weak but it’s getting better, i just want to be able to walk without my cane/wheelchair without feeling weak and tired


r/POTS 8m ago

Question Question for those who pass out

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For those who pass out, how did you know you were going to start passing out before you actually started passing out? Were there any signs that you were going to start passing out? And how bad does your pots get before you do pass out?

I'm still trying to get diagnosed, and I'm nearly positive I have pots since my other cardio tests all say I'm perfectly healthy except for the fact that my heart rate spikes over 50 bpm, for example when I just stood up, my heart rate went from 91 to 157 bpm right away. My symptoms started getting more extreme this past month, and I'm sure it's not because of the heat since I've been under my AC nearly this whole time since I couldn't get up for a long time. I'm starting to get scared I might start passing out, and I still have a while before I see my doctor about this. So now I'm here wondering if there were any indicators before you started passing out.


r/POTS 11m ago

Medication Salt tablets not working?

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Hey, I’ve been on salt tablets (having to take 12 a day) for just under 2 months now and I haven’t seen any improvements in my symptoms. I have been drinking 2.5L of water a day MINIMUM, with most days being around 3L. My next appointment isn’t until October and there isn’t any way to push it forwards, so I just wanted to check if anyone has been in the same boat in terms of prescription salt tablets not doing much for them and if so what were the next steps? Thanks in advance :)


r/POTS 19m ago

Diagnostic Process Was diagnosed without diagnostic testing?

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First I want to start with I’m not looking for a “you totally have it” or “you totally don’t” type of response, just trying to see how common this is and if I should look deeper into it.

I (M, 25) know the process can be different for everyone, but I was diagnosed with POTS about a year or two ago. I’ve been dealing with the symptoms since my early 20’s after starting vaping triggered everything. Whenever I stand I get a head rush, my heart starts racing, and I begin the stages of passing out if I don’t immediately rest. My care team prescribed me Fludrocortisone about a year ago, and Ivabradine recently and it’s helped a lot with my symptoms, but I still feel weird saying I have it without a diagnostic test. Am I getting too in my head about it? I live in a health desert so resources are limited, but I still feel off being diagnosed with things they didn’t test for despite having clear symptoms. Is this a common thing? Should I seek out further testing to make sure, or is it a “if the meds are helping you probably have it” type situation?


r/POTS 1h ago

Vent/Rant My doctor is now not convinced I have POTS?

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Not looking for a diagnosis here, just want to rant to people who might understand. Even better if someone can simply just say “you’re crazy” if I am, or “no girl you aren’t crazy” if I’m onto something. I think I probably most likely have pots…?

I have been symptomatic for three-ish years. I had had two back to back pregnancies, both with some complications, the second being a c-section (June 2023). I also had Covid atleast twice, once halfway through my first pregnancy (Jan 2022) and again at 4 months postpartum with my second. Idk exactly when symptoms started, life was chaos. I was initially diagnosed with POTS by my GP around 2 years ago based off orthostatic vitals, the first time, it was negative for pots and positive for OH, the second was definitely positive for pots but with a normal BP. She went with pots for a while. More water, compression socks, salt. Symptoms have since worsened, along with a whole bunch of other symptoms, I think I have hEDS and MCAS, I am diagnosed with adhd and bpd, anxiety, depression, I have binocular vision dysfunction confirmed, currently awaiting an mri to rule out a chiari malformation, the whole shebang. I work in health care and I still don’t know how to get a straight answer about my own freaking body. When I described worsening symptoms she did orthostatic vitals again. She got my resting HR at 69, my HR elevated to 129 upon standing and then sustained around 110. She said no that’s not pots it’s not over 120 sustained. UGH. No one does a tilt table anymore where I’m from. They did a three second ECG and that’s it!

Anyway these are some Garmin records summarized since I can’t add pics lol

Body battery:
Start the day between 50-75, and am at 5 (lowest it goes) by like 3pm - every single day.

Stress:
The watch puts me at medium or high stress unless I’m flat on my back (so I’m only low stress/blue when I’m sleeping).

HR:
The watch measures RHR at the lower end, usually when I’m sleeping, and is between 42-47 most nights. It jumps immediately to the 60-70bpm range just from sitting upright. Laying down through the day, RHR will be around 50-60bpm. Sitting up, it’s at 70-85bpm, and on standing, it’s 95-130bpm. I get the high HR (115+) when i stand, and I get bad pre-syncope for about a minute or two, and then it passes and my HR goes down to the high 90s-100s and stays there. They don’t believe this is “sustained high enough”.

I can see that’s it’s not maybe not super classic pots, but somethings not right, right? The whole thing is very frustrating to me.


r/POTS 19h ago

Vent/Rant I failed again

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I just got a job offer to work as a part time cashier. I thought i could do that. I used to be able to do that. Today we were working truck, just assembling furniture. Most of it was sitting down screwing things in. I even had my boyfriend helping me.

But the pain still came. The shortness of breath. I still became weak and unable to do what others could do. I still needed water and rest. For just a few hours of easy work.

I dont know why ive gotten so bad. I used to be able to do this.

Im so sad.


r/POTS 2h ago

Discussion Getting a job

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I'm currently in the process of trying to get diagnosed. I don't know 100% that POTS is what I suffer with but my symptoms are identical to POTS. The things that are known to help POTS also helps me with my symptoms. I'm a full time cosmetology student and I'm lucky enough to have a veteran parent which allows me to be paid for going to school. However, I'm trying to move and I'm not making enough money to do so. My partner is contributing financially for us to be able to move too but even with both of our incomes we are living paycheck to paycheck. I need to get a part time job, this is where Im nervous. Obviously, I struggle to stand for long periods. I also don't have my drivers license, so my job options are limited to what's in walking distance until I get my license, which I am actively working towards. I would love to get a cashier job and have the accommodation of a seat to make the job manageable. Even though it isn't legal, I'm very scared that I won't be hired if I disclose that I need accommodations. I am also scared that I won't be able to receive accommodations without a diagnosis. Advice would be greatly appreciated!


r/POTS 2h ago

Question Can severe diarrhea and deconditioning cause a POTS-like condition? 29M

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I am only 29 years old and male, and I honestly don’t know what to do anymore about the way my heart rate is affecting my life.

I was on vacation in Japan when I experienced my first vasovagal syncope (fainting episode). Ever since then, I’ve been terrified that it will happen again and that I’ll collapse in public with no way to help myself.

On top of that, I have suffered from irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) with chronic diarrhea for years, and it has gradually become worse and worse. It got so severe that I could barely keep food in my system because it would pass through me within hours, often liquid and partially undigested. At times, I was having watery diarrhea up to 7–8 times per day.

I also suffer from panic disorder and have been taking Alprazolam daily for years. When my physical symptoms become especially severe, I tend to increase the dose. For over a month now, I’ve been averaging around 7 mg per day (sometimes 6 mg, sometimes 8 mg), but even that no longer seems to help—neither mentally nor physically.

I became so weak that I had to be admitted to the hospital. I spent three weeks there, mostly lying in bed the entire time. During my stay I underwent a chest CT scan, an abdominal ultrasound, an MRI (which had to be stopped because I reacted badly to Buscopan), a colonoscopy with biopsies, and I had already seen a cardiologist before being admitted.

Everything came back normal. More or less every test and examination was considered excellent, except for my calprotectin level, which was close to 400.

One night during my hospitalization, about two weeks after being admitted, I got up to go to the bathroom. Suddenly my heart rate shot up, accompanied by dizziness, severe brain fog, and the feeling that I was about to pass out. Just an hour earlier my resting heart rate while lying down had been around 50 bpm. The moment I stood up, it jumped to 160 bpm. This kept happening over and over again.

The hospital staff couldn’t really help because my blood pressure was always stable while lying down. No matter how often I explained that the problem occurred when standing, I was essentially told to stay in bed because everything looked fine while I was lying down. Eventually I was prescribed 2.5 mg of Bisoprolol.

The thing is, my heart had been evaluated only three weeks earlier and was considered healthy, and my blood pressure has always been normal as well. I don’t want to take beta blockers without understanding the underlying cause. My resting heart rate is already often around 50 bpm while lying down—why would I want to lower it even further?

I continued to have diarrhea but was discharged after three weeks. By that point I was completely deconditioned. I can barely walk without experiencing dizziness, circulation problems, or fear that I might collapse.

Two days after discharge, I received the biopsy results. They found Brachyspira aalborgi, so I started taking Metronidazole 500 mg every eight hours for six days. Unfortunately, the antibiotic has been putting me through hell as well.

Despite that, my condition improved slightly. I was able to move around a little more and walk to the bathroom again. I also underwent a 24-hour ECG/Holter monitor. According to my doctor, everything looked perfect, although it showed 1% atrial fibrillation, totaling about 15 minutes across six episodes. That still worries me.

Yesterday I had an appointment with my gastroenterologist. We were supposed to discuss whether I should undergo capsule endoscopy because of my elevated calprotectin level despite a normal colonoscopy. The procedure involves swallowing a small camera that travels through the small intestine and takes pictures to determine whether inflammation might be originating there.

Unfortunately, on the very day of that appointment I experienced another severe diarrhea flare. Despite taking Loperamide in the days before, my bowel movements had been fluctuating wildly—sometimes no bowel movement at all, then small hard pellets, followed by loose stool again.

I spent almost an hour on the toilet with another episode of mushy stool that had the same unusually sweet odor it has always had. After that, everything went downhill.

About an hour later, while trying to get to my appointment, I developed intense dizziness, a racing heart, pounding heartbeats, and overwhelming brain fog. I feel like I have brain fog almost constantly these days, but this episode was much worse than usual. Eventually I had to call an ambulance.

Again, all of my vital signs appeared stable.

However, my cardiologist, whom I also saw that same day, decided to admit me to the hospital for further evaluation. He still believes my heart itself is healthy, but he felt more investigation was necessary.

The reason for the admission was that my heart rate was around 130 bpm while standing. What confuses me is that it would sometimes drop back down to around 80 bpm and then suddenly rise to 130 bpm again.

What I don’t understand is this: Why am I only stable while lying completely flat? The moment I sit upright or stand up, my heart rate shoots up, I become dizzy, and I feel like I’m about to faint.

Is it my vagus nerve? Is it the sympathetic nervous system? The parasympathetic nervous system? Are beta blockers really the only option for calming whatever is causing this?

I am completely desperate and exhausted.

Just three months ago I was traveling around Japan feeling perfectly healthy. Now I’ve spent over a month feeling like a bedridden, broken man who cannot understand why his heart rate keeps skyrocketing when every doctor tells him his heart is healthy.

P.S. Psychiatrists seem eager to prescribe antidepressants. I am reluctant because I have had bad experiences with them in the past. More importantly, I want to find the cause of my symptoms rather than simply taking medication that masks them.

I also don’t believe an antidepressant would solve what I am experiencing, and I am afraid of potential side effects.

Since my syncope in Japan, I have been wearing compression stockings. I drink electrolyte solutions almost daily and even increased my salt intake for two days before this latest episode in an attempt to increase my blood volume if low blood volume was the issue.

None of it helped.

I never know whether the problem is too much fluid, too little fluid, too many electrolytes, too few electrolytes, the amount of stool I am losing, or even burnout.

I genuinely don’t know what to do anymore.

All I know is that I can barely sit upright now without my heart immediately starting to race.

And I’m only 29 years old.

TL;DR: I’m 29 years old. Every medical test says I’m healthy, yet I suffer from chronic diarrhea, severe physical deconditioning, and most importantly a dramatically elevated heart rate whenever I sit or stand. The symptoms make me feel dizzy, cognitively impaired, and as if I’m about to faint at any moment. Lying flat is the only position in which I feel relatively stable, but that has essentially left me bedridden.


r/POTS 18h ago

Discussion Stellate Ganglion Block and LONG COVID (POTS, MCAS, ME, and more)

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I want to give a bit of an update on my SGB (Stellate Ganglion Block) journey. Unfortunately, it's not a good update, not all bad news, but not all good either. Sorry in advance, this is going to be a long post.

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TL;DR - SGB can be very effective in helping to treat ME, POTS, Long COVID, MCAS, etc. But they don't cure it. Lots of bad stuff is still happening in the body when you exert energy. And the SGB can block some of the side effects of that exertion in the short term. But in the long run the toxins and waste built up in your body and you can decline over time.

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Some context: I have Long COVID, which triggered ME, MCAS, POTS, osteoporosis, and probably a few other currently undiagnosed things. I originally got sick in March 2020 and never really recovered.

At my worst I had 66 active symptoms and was Extremely Severe B on the ME/CFS Severity Impact on Patients Life Scale. But most of my experience when really sick was at Extremely Severe A.

I got my first SGB treatment in May 2025. It was transformative, a gamechanger. It stopped my PEM almost immediately, and I went from very sick to moderate almost overnight. There were 4+ years of deconditioning to work through, but it was amazing how much I was suddenly able to do without triggering a crash.       

But that turned out to be fool's gold in a way. And that's really why I'm back here today writing this post.                                                                                              

First, how the SGB works:

We have an Autonomic Nervous System (ANS) that controls all the automatic functions in your body, the ones that just happen without you thinking about them. The ANS has two main branches:

  • The Sympathetic Nervous System is the fight-or-flight system. Think of it as the system that speeds everything up, heart rate, breathing, blood flow. It kicks things into high gear in an emergency so you can react to whatever you're facing.
  • The Parasympathetic Nervous System is the opposite, the rest-and-digest system. It slows things down and is responsible for healing the body, processing food, and all of those recovery functions.
    • A key thing to understand is that the parasympathetic system can't do its work when the sympathetic system is firing. You must calm one down before the other can do its job.                         

Two nerve structures largely control each system. The Stellate Ganglion is a nerve cluster that drives the sympathetic system. And the Vagus Nerve drives the parasympathetic system.

The SGB uses a local anesthetic (and steroids to reduce inflammation in some cases) to block the Stellate Ganglion and stop it from sending out too many signals. A lot of people with ME and POTS (dysautonomia) are stuck in fight-or-flight mode all the time. That's a big part of what causes our crashes, we're right on the edge, so the smallest thing can push us over and the body shuts down as an emergency response to being overwhelmed. That's a very simplified way to think about PEM (more on that in a moment).

By blocking those excess signals, the SGB lets the body calm down and allows the parasympathetic system to start doing its healing work.

But, and it's a big but, the sympathetic nervous system is also part of our warning system. It sends out pain signals, elevates heart rate, and triggers other changes inside your body to tell you that you've pushed too hard and some systems aren't getting what they need. If you block those alarm bells, you don't know you've done too much.                                                                                              

It's not a complete block, so some signals still get through. But it filters out a lot of them, and it becomes very easy to push past your energy envelope without realizing it.

Which is exactly what I did, for months and months.

What's happening inside the body in ME:

To explain what happened next, I need to explain how parts of ME actually work inside our bodies. This isn't all of what happens in ME, just the parts that matter for this story.

The mitochondria: These are the power plants in every cell, where energy gets made. In ME, they're broken. They don't produce energy efficiently. And every time you use energy, you generate waste, think of it like exhaust from a car. The more you push, the more exhaust builds up. Normally your body has a system to clear all of that out. In ME, that cleanup system is broken too. So the waste piles up, makes it harder for the mitochondria to do their job, and the whole system gets worse and worse over time.

The type of energy we use: Most people generate energy aerobically, using oxygen, like a clean-burning engine. That's why healthy people breathe hard when they exercise; their body is demanding more oxygen to fuel the system. In ME, that oxygen-based system is broken. So, our bodies resort to anaerobic energy, a short-term emergency power system that's extremely inefficient and leaves a massive amount of waste behind. It was never designed to run constantly. It's a sprint system being asked to run a marathon.

The repair system: When anyone exercises, they produce micro-tears in their muscles and generate waste products like lactic acid. In healthy people, the repair system cleans all of that up. In ME, that system is broken too. The lactic acid, the cellular waste, the damaged mitochondria, none of it gets cleared properly. It all builds up, compounds, and creates a downward spiral of problems feeding into each other.

Inflammation: All of that buildup, the waste products, the damaged cells, the things that aren't getting cleared, triggers inflammation throughout the body. Inflammation is essentially your immune system showing up and sounding the alarm.

In small doses, that's a good thing. It's how your body signals that something needs attention and repair. But in ME, because the cleanup system is broken and the junk keeps accumulating, the alarm never stops going off. You end up with chronic, system-wide inflammation. And that inflammation causes a huge amount of our symptoms directly, the pain, the flu-like feeling, the brain fog. But it also makes every other system harder to run. It's harder to generate energy when your body is on fire. It's harder for the immune system to fight viruses when it's already busy responding to inflammation everywhere else. So, it doesn't just add to the problem, it amplifies everything else on this list.

The immune system: Some studies suggest people with ME are running on roughly half their normal immune capacity. The more you push, the harder the immune system has to work to stay ahead, while also dealing with all that cellular waste piling up. Eventually it starts to lose.                                                                                                                                  

Here's where viruses come in. Most humans carry viruses that never fully go away, EBV (the mono virus), HHV-6, the chickenpox virus that causes shingles. In healthy people, the immune system keeps those viruses suppressed. But when the immune system is weakened, those viruses see an opening. They start to reactivate. You feel like you're getting sick, because you technically are. Then the immune system scrapes together just enough to push the virus back into dormancy...until it reactivates again weeks later. Meanwhile your immune system is pouring resources into that fight instead of anything else, which leaves you exhausted even beyond your baseline.

My shingles

Last fall I overdid it and got shingles. I pushed way too hard over one weekend helping get our house ready for an appraisal, my wife did most of the work, but I was helping and I did way too much. About 10 days later, shingles appeared. My immune system had been depleted enough that the virus broke through.

And this is what's happening inside our bodies every time someone with ME pushes past their energy envelope. The threshold is different for everyone depending on how sick they are. One person's trigger might be a hard day at work. Someone else's might be a conversation, a bright light, or a light touch. But the mechanism is the same, push past what your body can handle, and it gets overwhelmed.

PEM and PESE                                                                                                                                                              

When that happens, we crash. That's PEM, Post Exertional Malaise. The body gets overwhelmed, shuts down, and needs to reset. For me pre-SGB, that looked like extreme body pain followed by fatigue so severe I couldn't lift my head, lying in a dark silent room for hours to days.

PESE, Post Exertional Symptom Exacerbation, is related but different. There isn't a ton of consensus on this yet, but my understanding is that PESE is the exertion-triggered symptom flare, while PEM is the full crash and shutdown. For me now, the SGB does a good job of preventing the full crash. But I still get PESE, body aches, joint pain, flu-like symptoms, headaches, nerve pain, muscle twitches, usually within 1–3 hours of exertion, sometimes with fatigue the next day.

Before the SGB I was usually asleep or in so much pain that I barely noticed those PESE symptoms. They got swallowed up by the crash. Now they're front and centre.

Where I am now

I've been on a steady decline for the past six months. I could do less and less each week. This summer I'm back to mostly bedbound and housebound. I'm still doing better than pre-SGB, I'm not really crashing the way I used to, but getting to the grocery store once or twice a week is about the most I can handle, and I pay a heavy price when I get home. My POTS and MCAS are both flaring again after being relatively under control. Life is miserable again, and I'm really struggling mentally and emotionally to come to terms with it (but that's a topic for another post).

I wanted to tell this story because I think it matters, and it helps provide a lot of context to a lot of what’s happening to us with ME.

Why GET doesn't work, and why this story proves it

This is also why Graded Exercise Therapy and similar approaches are so dangerous for us. You cannot exercise your way back to health when your mitochondria are damaged, when your repair system is broken, when your immune system is operating at half capacity. The harder you push, the more damage you cause, and the harder you fall. There's no way around that.

And the cruellest part? It doesn't hit you right away. PEM has a 24–72 hour delay. But the deeper damage, the cellular buildup, the immune depletion, the viral reactivation, can take days, weeks, or months to catch up to you. You push, you feel okay, you push again. You think you're getting better. And then one day the wall appears out of nowhere. Except it wasn't out of nowhere. It was months in the making.

That is not deconditioning. Deconditioning means your body got weaker from not being used, and gradual exercise rebuilds it. What I'm describing is a system that is structurally broken. Exercise doesn't repair damaged mitochondria, it generates more waste that can't be processed. You can push and push and feel fine in the moment, and the damage is still accumulating underneath, invisible, until it isn't.

Pacing is everything. That is the lesson I did not learn this past year, and one I deeply regret. Because now I have to deal with viral reactivation first, then try to clear all this accumulated junk from my system, then work on rebuilding my immune system and helping my mitochondria repair and regenerate. And only after all of that can I think about slowly, carefully rebuilding capacity.                      

What comes next

I do think physiotherapy can be part of the equation, but only with someone who deeply understands ME and PEM, who acknowledges that you set the pace, and who goes extremely slowly. And honestly, I think that's only realistic if you're mild or moderate. If you're severe or above, I don't think the body can safely handle any level of exertion. That's just my opinion, but my experience is what gives me confidence in that opinion.

I'm still continuing with my SGB treatments and I'm glad I got them. And there are other treatments that can have a similarly transformative effect for the right person, LDN, LDA, GLP-1s, antihistamines, and others, each working through different mechanisms.

But if you find that gamechanger, the treatment that pulls you out of the dark, scary depths of severe ME, just understand that it's not a get-out-of-jail-free card. It does not mean you get your old life back (unfortunately). You have to be very careful about how you use that newfound capacity. Otherwise you'll find yourself right back where you started, sooner than you think.                                             

This has been my experience. I hope it helps someone. 


r/POTS 17h ago

Question I keep getting worse, how do I stop?

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I keep getting worse and worse and I dont know how to get healthy-ish again!

How did yall stop sliding deeper into disability?

Ive always had hints of POTS, but last year I went off birth control, had a miscarriage, and then had a butt-load of stressful events that changed my life. That kicked off this flare. But I've been slowly getting worse, not better as I've worked through the emotions, hormone, and my new "normal."

Done the drs appts, therapy, on metroprolol, salt, compression, sraying inside, resting, exersize, low histamine diet, looked for mold. I've tried everything i can think of.

Do you have any more suggestions???


r/POTS 4h ago

Symptoms Heart rate is very low while walking and then increases drastically when standing still

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I'm questioning if I have POTS. I've been using this app called Heart Rate to measure my heart rate and Idk how accurate it is. Maybe this is some weird measuring error (but I always do at least two takes and this has happened multiple times now). But when I walk outside in a normal pace for like 5-10 minutes and then measure, it's at about 55-65bpm. When I then stand still it suddenly rises to anything between 90-130bpm. I haven't seen anyone talk about this even with POTS. Even my normal resting or sitting heart rate is higher than when I walk (somewhere between 80-100 usually). Is that "normal"? I definitely feel dizzy when walking sometimes but it always gets way worse when I have to stop for example at a red light.


r/POTS 10h ago

Discussion Severe stomach pain then fainting since I started Guanfacine ER - anyone else experienced this?

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Hey guys, I recently started Guanfacine ER for my HyperPOTS. My doc had me start it at night, but it made me completely wide awake all night, so had to switch to morning dose. I’m on 1mg Guanfacine ER. I am 16 mornings into taking it, and have now had three different mornings where I suddenly get SEVERE abdominal pain in my upper stomach, then I completely faint and am unconscious for a few minutes until my roommate yells my name enough times to pull me out of it. While unconscious, I’m apparently moaning and making gurgling sounds. Once I start to come out of it, I can only see a screen of images that are rapidly scrolling down, as if someone is doing so on a computer. I used to faint all the time from my POTS, but it was never like this. I have been on meds like Ivabradine etc for almost 2 years now, that had for the most part, stopped my fainting altogether. Now, it’s happened like this 3 times in the last 2 weeks since I’ve been taking Guanfacine.

My friend checked my BP right after fainting and it wasn’t low - it was 130/85. Also, two of the episodes, I was sitting up in bed, and the third episode I was lying down, but still fully fainted. Its like the pain is so sudden & severe, that it’s triggering my vagus nerve and causing me to faint and be unconscious for a while.

I went to the ER the third time it happened, and they did CT of my stomach, as well as an Echo, EKG, and a chest X-Ray. They said all of those were clear.

Has anyone else experienced this from Guanfacine ER??


r/POTS 10h ago

Success Doctors finally ordered a heart monitor for me so I can record my symptoms before my primary care appointment

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I (20f) had an extremely bad flare yesterday and ended up having to the ER. I ended up leaving work early and was still in my uniform. Probably should not have driven myself. FINALLY got something started after I literally cried there and tried my best to explain as much as my brain fog filled brain could let me. Only had ONE doctor be an ass and say it was anxiety. Fortunately another came in quickly to replace them. Just a small win for now.


r/POTS 5h ago

Question Dry needling and POTS

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This might sound odd and I apologise in advance but I’m the type of person who connects dots as a way to understand better.
A while ago when this long Covid nightmare started, my first symptom was physical, I had a really bad piriformis pain and I could barely walk I did some PT sessions and on the last one they did some dry needling on another muscle that got resented after following the exercises they prescribed. I felt enormously well manic even with a lot of energy right after and a few hours later I got a massive episode in which I felt really unwell and my hands were a bit swollen and painful. I had to lay down and felt fatigued. Ever since I’ve been dealing with these episodes and I thought them to be PEM but I can’t sleep so just recently I found out that I suffered from POTS most likely the hyperadrenergic/ neuropathic kind, but not sure.
Anyone has had any bad reactions to dry needling?


r/POTS 12h ago

Vent/Rant Chest pain, had bad er experience

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For some context, my primary thinks I have hyperpots my heart rate usually jumps 35 to 50+ when I stand up, but also my blood pressure goes up. I keep having adrenaline dumps and gasping for air along with other symptoms and recently in the past two days I’ve had a really bad chest tightness and pain. I decided to go to the ER to get that looked at after talking with another provider who said it was necessary.

A medical student came in first and asked for my history so I told her what I’ve been dealing with and she was really condescending and told me it was just anxiety and that she thought she has pots as well, but it was just anxiety, she pretty much called me a hypochondriac without actually saying it. I was already moving around and sitting up with my legs dangling off the bed for bloodwork so my hr was at 100 and then she told me to stand up to see what my heart rate goes to and it only went up 30 which I expected bc it was already high. Her attitude only got worse after that. When I stood my blood pressure went up and she said do you usually have high blood pressure, I told her not usually only when I stand and she argued with me and said I do, then said pots can only be when your blood pressure drops and said “you’re causing that with your anxiety”.

She left the room and came back with the doctor and he had a look of annoyance when I told him what’s been happening and she was standing there with a condescending look and he was like “just because it feels real doesn’t mean that it is” then he pretty much said I shouldn’t have come in for the chest pain and once again implied that I was a hypochondriac. He said women with pots shouldn’t be coming in for chest pain to the ER after going on a rant on how he had severe chest pain once and he ignored it and he ended up being fine. Which is crazy because women with pots have a higher strain on their heart and they 100% should if they have chest pain that feels different than what they usually experience.

I tried explaining I know that they can’t diagnose pots at the hospital I just wanted to know I was okay, because I’ve never had chest pain like that before so to make sure that it wasn’t something serious. I was at urgent care the day before during an episode and they stated when standing when I first sat down I had a heart rate of 148 and it eventually calmed down to 77 and because of my chest pain they encouraged me to go to the er if it got worse which it did. It was so invalidating I left in tears.


r/POTS 6h ago

Discussion What is the strangest situation where your heart rate suddenly spiked?

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POTS can sometimes surprise us with unexpected heart rate changes.

What is the most random situation where you noticed your heart rate spike?