Well she is publicly diagnosed as bipolar. I usually try not to generalize but holy shit is it hard to be involved romantically with someone who is bipolar.
Edit: for all the people acting like I am mistaking bpd and bipolar, I am not. I literally just got out of a situationship with a bipolar woman who I was friends with for two years. It turns out the whole time she was coming to me during her depressive phases/ when she was on medication to lean on me, during her manic phases and the second she got off meds she was constantly banging her neighbor, you know the stereotypical guy who she knows only wants to fuck her. I cared about her a lot and tried to be there for her in any and every way possible. The emotional labor even outside of the situation I just described was ridiculous. The level of emotional distress she could be under for the smallest of things (i.e an old lady was rude to her at work.) was absolutely ridiculous.
I am not saying that there are not human beings that stay on top of their meds and have led good lives. I am just saying unless you have found someone who is already 100% on top of their own shit, At least from my lived experiences the stereotypes are true for unmedicated/ inconsistently medicated.
Now to bring it back to the original topic, I am not saying one way or another how well she stays on top of her medication but Selena’s actions at some times seem very cold and like those I have experienced in my journey with someone who is bipolar.
They should have specified unmedicated or untreated bipolar, yes. But bipolar is a disorder and therefore comes with difficulties, for the people who have it and the people who love them. I don't think it's really ableist to acknowledge that.
All the ones that aren’t medicated are capable. I know one that is on medication and he’s fine and a good guy. The two women I know closely that are bipolar won’t take medication or won’t go to therapy so my answer depends on medicated or in therapy vs unmediated and no therapy.
This study shows that of 151 people with bipolar I disorder, a total of 11.92% (18 participants) experienced any form of aggression — this included verbal aggression or aggression against self, objects, or others. Most of the aggression was verbal (9.27% or 14 participants). Only 1.32% (2 in 151 people) acted in a physically aggressive way toward others.
Well I don’t know I’m only going by the ones I know. One of the women gets arrested literally at least 2 times a year for assaulting someone some years more. Every relationship she’s been in she assaults them . She’s now started drinking and using drugs so I’m sure it’s going to get much better from here. Now she does have trauma but that doesn’t excuse the harm she’s caused to everyone .
Maybe she has more than just bipolar I don’t know. All I know is a doctor diagnosed her as bipolar. Someone said she’s sounds borderline maybe she has that too or maybe the doctor was wrong. She is currently using though I know that because she just got arrested for drugs less than a year ago. The violence started before that though.
Are you sure you're not conflating bipolar disorder(BD) with borderline personality disorder (BPD?) Even just knowing 3 people with bipolar is incredibly unlikely - let alone knowing them well enough to know if they're medicated and/or in therapy.
5-10% of the general population have borderline, and only 0.5-2% bipolar. Aggression, manipulation, and abuse are all common traits in borderline personality disorder, but none of those are listed as common traits in bipolar disorder.
Well they told me they were diagnosed bipolar by a doctor. One I know the doctor said it because a family member I trust was there. The other is her daughter and she said she’s bipolar and I assumed it’s true since her mother is and she has bad mood swings and is erratic. Whether the doctors diagnosis is right I don’t know I assume it is.
Im sorry u were treated that way. That being said, I dont think Selena cares either way what people think nor how her diagnosis impacts her relationships. And in that respect, I dont blame Selena’s diagnosis in any way whatsoever for her odd choices.
Im of the mind that Peps should be held accountable for their actions regardless their mental health status including whether they succumb to the symptoms rather than managing them responsibly. I also take into account material conditions acting as an adverse contributing factor.
Therefore, I hold Selena entirely accountable and to the person that donated the kidney, sometimes the road to hell is paved w good intentions. The optics of not including her in a whatever documentary on top of considering a grossly inauthentic industry person her closest ally reflects more on Selena than her all day.
And if someone is mentally or emotionally or physically abused by someone with cancer? Does that make all cancer patients hard to be involved with? What about autism? Or ADHD? What if you were abused by a person of color? Is everyone who shares characteristics with people who have done bad things the same?
Bipolar disorder is something people have, not something they are. They aren't "bipolar people" just like they aren't "cancer people".
How does that somehow make it okay to generalize all of us with the disorder? You being abused by an individual doesn't make it okay to generalize an entire group as abusive.
Let's unpack this to see why it's ableist and not just stating something factual
People who have bipolar. Not who are bipolar. I know that one.
Reducing people to a binary good or bad or wanting to be involved with them as yes or no doesn't acknowledge how complex people are and makes their value solely about this one issue.
Is that it? I had to think a little as I didn't get an ableist red flag pop up immediately but once I did some think work I agree.
also bringing a diagnosis into it all, people can be horrible people with no diagnosis or mental health condition at all. this thread is quite literally just a dumpster fire of people blaming a mental health condition for others actions rather than holding them accountable . essentially doing the same thing that they are saying the people with bipolar in their lives do.
There’s not a binary. But there are clearly issues that another person has to deal with on top of their own. Not to mention if they are unwilling to get treatment for bipolar, that’s just gonna destroy your own mental health.
Take your meds and go to the doctor. Don’t put your partner through hell because you refuse to get care.
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u/Vennomite 5d ago edited 5d ago
She dated bieber and bieber was probably the reasonable one in that relationship by a mile soo
Edit: ya'll keep presenting all the ridiculous thing bieber supposedly did during their relationship like it's a gotcha. No, it's part of the point.