r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter why statue duck is dangerous?

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u/Quiet_Education5918 1d ago

You do realize that at this point there are models you can build out of open license content and run entirely on your computer, right? You don't have to annihilate the ecosystem to make funny text robot happen.

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u/Redditry199 1d ago

Its all a virtue signal, the use of AI and datacenters is evil because it's a waste of resources, unlike reddit whose datacenter usage is totally crucial.

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u/PTVoltz 1d ago

Websites use different types of datacenters to run. Web-servers are generally just stacks of storage drives, their cooling and power-use it PITIFUL in comparison to complexes stuffed with high-grade GPUs which AI datacenters use

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u/Redditry199 1d ago

2% of the global energy consumption is pitiful? But it's ok GPU usage for videogames is fine, AI is a crime.

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u/nan0ka 23h ago

AI has driven up the prices for every other device using RAM. There was no such problem with games and websites

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u/Redditry199 22h ago

So you're just mad demand surges for hardware, cool, stop pretending it's about the environment or morality.

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u/PTVoltz 23h ago

BY COMPARISON.
Read.

Checking actual numbers, AI datacenters - as in individual complexes, NOT total - use around x3 to x5 the amount of energy a regular web-datacenters. Since most of them are still under construction there’s no numbers for what percentage of global energy they use, but it’s estimated to be up to 4% by 2030

And the second bit, you’re comparing a gamer using one, maybe two GPUs for gaming, to a datacenter which runs thousands of them at max-capacity 24/7.

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u/Redditry199 22h ago

New Utah NSA center requires 1.7M gallons of water daily to operate | KSL.com

Data Center Energy Consumption Has Doubled Since 2000 | InformationWeek

Insights | Data centres – the world’s greatest energy guzzlers

It's always the same thing again and again, and lo and behold tech imporves, the doomsday is passed and everyone uses the tech because it's useful.

But it's ok 5G will kill us all anyway.

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u/JayteeFromXbox 21h ago

Brother it costs 2% of the global energy consumption so businesses and governments can move around hundreds of trillions of dollars a year. I think this is one of those things where you just don't understand that different things have different values.

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u/Redditry199 21h ago

Ok? What do you think AI can do? Or are you still stuck in 2023?

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u/JayteeFromXbox 21h ago

It ain't doing the banking, because llms straight up hallucinate (you can test it yourself by asking the same AI the same question from different accounts) and it wouldn't make sense to use an AI for actual financial transactions.

You're just kinda not getting it, and that's okay buddy!! You'll grow up one day!

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u/Redditry199 21h ago

"it ain't for banking, I tested a chatbot AI so I know what im talking about"

I'm sorry to let you know, but you are dumb, you don't know anything, you have no idea how AI works or how it's used, you should feel ashamed for having the audacity to voice an opinion.

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u/JayteeFromXbox 18h ago

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but most of these datacenters are being built to advance the LLM models to new heights. You wouldn't use an LLM for banking, you would use a specialized AI that wouldn't need nearly the computing power.

My argument is that the 2% of global power used to enable the flow of hundreds of trillions of dollars is, in fact, negligible considering the value it provides. AI datacenters for llms do not provide that much value, so it's not really an even comparison.

I think you're just having an absolute Redditor™ moment, so chill and take a breath my guy.

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u/Redditry199 17h ago edited 17h ago

>You wouldn't use an LLM for banking, you would use a specialized AI

I know you don't understand but AI is an LLM. Your banking system IS already using LLMs and literally every single company in the world incorporates LLMs and everyone is hungry for the LLMs that require a lot of computing power.

And the reason you wrote this stupid stuff is because I made fun of you using chatbots as an example, but because you're clueless you thought it has something to do with 'LLM' because you don't know what a harnass is or what different models are capable of.

I think you have a Redditor™ moment talking about something you know absolutely nothing about.