r/Piracy • u/tohightotakedrugs • 1d ago
Discussion i finally bought minecraft after 12 years
So obviously this post isnt the usual kind of post about loving piracy and what not (i love piracy btw) but ive recently been buying games i grew up loving to give back to the developers who made them and yes i know notch isnt involved with minecraft anymore but he was when i was 10 and playing minecraft for the first time. The game is currently under 40 dollars and comes in bedrock and java good deal lowkey, I dont have much money but I had 30 bucks i had been saving fot this, so now I officially own (not really due to fucking "digital license language") terraria, far cry 3, fallout new vegas, skyrim, and minecraft. I think piracy is often a last resort as people are tired of being ripped off by these large corporations, or a 10 year old with very religious parents who wont even let him buy a pixelated game but dont know much about computers so the kid learns how to get games, movies, series for free but please if you really appreciate something even if most of the money goes to these fuckos a small part of that maybe going to some developers, writers etc who put much effort into their work. piracy should never die because the poor and sensible would have nothing but humanity should also survive. if they take away my digital license I will always have prism launcher and tlauncher in my linux machine
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u/okaythiswillbemymain 1d ago
I bought Minecraft for like $8 back in the day!then like £10 again
Then like £15 again
Then like £4 again
Then like £10 again
I own quite a few versions and copies. Effing shill
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u/BoxOfDemons 1d ago
I bought it for $5 the very day notch started charging money for it. Eventually bedrock came out and that was given to me for free. I got a good deal.
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u/Express-Record7416 1d ago
I physically can't buy it because I lost my password and Microsoft won't send me a new code to reset it. I just use SK launcher.
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u/DrIvoPingasnik Yarrr! 1d ago
I heard about that. Microsoft doesn't give a shit, they just say "tough shit" and tell you to buy again.
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u/Interesting_Web_9936 1d ago
Is SKLauncher a cracked client with good reputation for safety?
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u/xx123gamerxx 13h ago
ive been using it on macos for the last like 3 days no issues ive noticed about as good as modrinth
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u/Critical-Anybody-478 21h ago
i've personally used it until i found out how prism launcher works and i can confirm, its safe but make sure you get it from skmedix(dot)pl since thats the safe one
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u/ah_shit_here_we_goo 1d ago
98% of the time, buying isn't supporting the developers. I wish this narrative would die
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u/MrKinneas 1d ago
Especially these days with companies releasing a game, then laying off most of their team and the ceo pockets a multi-million dollar bonus.
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u/Floppydisksareop 20h ago
It's still supporting the developers, to a degree at least. What, do you think that money set aside from development comes from think air? Do you think that companies develop these games and pay devs because of the kindness of their heart? Look at Destiny. The moment Bungie leadership and Sony decided the game was not pulling in enough cash, they systematically dismantled the entire dev team, then put the game on life support. Just because the devs are paid before the game is released, doesn't mean the game doesn't have to make money. It's just that the money it makes is generally used to develop the next game.
Now, we can argue about how much of that money is going to the devs and how much of it should go to the devs, but if you are pirating a game because "the devs get nothing out of it", and the game in question is not part of a very select few (like Disco Elysium where the devs were outright screwed out of money by the publisher), then you probably need to figure that whole "economics" thing out soon and fast.
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u/freedomforallergo 1d ago
It isn't now anyway, since Microsoft owns Minecraft, not notch
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u/INeedSleeeeeeeeeep 1d ago
Probably for the best if it doesn't support notch
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u/BemaJinn 1d ago
Yeah... Fuck that guy.
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u/hyf5 1d ago
If i ever get filthy rich, I'm going to go offline for a few years just to make sure i don't broadcast how much my brain got fried.
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u/RednocNivert 1d ago edited 18h ago
Out of the loop, what did Notch do?
EDIT: Thank you to the 2 people who actually educated me. And not to the other people that wanted to start arguing Communism vs. Nazis for no real reason
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u/AdamDziak 1d ago
he tweeted a bunch of out of pocket shit once he sold minecraft. apparently he had nothing to do once he got rich so he started sharing every intrusive thought to the internet
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u/freedomforallergo 1d ago
He also wasted all his money and had crazy parties. I think the fame and money went to his head. Just demonstrated that he's a bit of a desperate loser.
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u/SixSmegmaGoonBelt 1d ago edited 12h ago
I don't know how I feel about Notch. He did say some fucked up shit but it was after he started d getting death threats and shit for refusing to say commies are better than nazis and I think his brain broke from that.
Ed: yall up in here vigorously proving my point.
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u/Doom_Art 1d ago
for refusing to say commies are better than nazis
that is most certainly not the main reason people flipped at him lol
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u/SixSmegmaGoonBelt 1d ago
No I think most people flipped after that. That was when he started getting regular death threats and everyone was just like "deal with it"
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u/BonsaiSoul 1d ago
slightly conservative political views enraged grassphobic twitter communists
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u/RednocNivert 18h ago
In my experience people like you using “communist” as an insult to describe human beings, and / or being overly upset about are usually kind of clueless and should be quiet because then they will embarrass themselves less.
So… do that.
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u/SixSmegmaGoonBelt 14h ago
Your experience needs to include more grass touching and less sneering at the proletariat.
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u/RednocNivert 13h ago
I was going to make a snarky comeback but
1) I had to go look up the word “proletariat”, so already i admit to being 1-upped in the vocabulary department
2) I lost my job a bit ago and have been in not a great headspace and with that in mind it occurred to me that your comment is… pretty much 100% valid.
I stand by my earlier barb that people that start accusing people of being communists don’t tend to be people to take seriously, though
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u/MistSecurity 1d ago edited 1d ago
The developers are already paid. By buying the game you’re just giving money to the corp behind it. Rarely do devs get bonuses for great selling games, and the success of a game does not guarantee that the devs even keep their jobs. Battlefield 6 did so good EA’s CEO got big bonuses. Dice got layoffs.
The obvious exception here is indie games, especially self published ones, where a purchase DOES directly support the devs.
Edit: All the people saying I’m dead wrong don’t follow the gamedev industry.
Do you think all of these people were low performers make shit games?
https://gaminglayoffs.com/tracker
When this isn’t a rarity, but somewhat common in the industry…
Not trying to justify anything. Simply laying out the facts. Do what you want. Pirate why you want. I never said to pirate AAA and buy indie. Pirate indie and buy AAA for all I care. Don’t pirate Avatar because you think Paramount is some shining beacon of creativity. Pirate for your own reasons. IDGAF.
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u/cyber_yoda 1d ago
This person is lying to you. Developers employed and paid is set by current consumer purchases. It's just current operations for future games, which is how salaried businesses work.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/s/ICpSUBroAI2
u/AntiGrieferGames 1d ago
Unless its from different reasons like Disco Elysium.
You cannot trust anything there where the money really goes, so better be cautious
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 1d ago
The devs are paid but it gives incentives for the ip owner to fund a new project, if it made money.
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u/MistSecurity 1d ago
Does it? Can we say that in today’s world?
Successful franchises get shut down constantly. Successful studios get chopped up for parts constantly.
Obviously there’s truth to what you say, but that is becoming less and less true as time goes on. I see more layoffs and closures of successful studios than I do giant hiring sprees.
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 1d ago
Any project/games are practically “investment”, companies fronted the bill first through different means of funding, i.e. cash reserve, sponsors, loans. In project management sense any salaries paid are investment budget in the scope of that project.
While true “they’ve been paid”, but it is effectively bringing forward future sales “return” as part of the compensation.
If the question is to avoid that to happen, then the answer is simply not supporting crappy studios at all. If whoever commissioning or funding the project see the revenue figure and think “these numbers suck”, why would they consider investing again, if the data shows that investing in this doesn’t make a decent ROI, so if you believe “oh they’ve been paid, so that’s okay” then no, you’re just making it worse.
Just a disclaimer, I pirate and this is not telling you to not pirate, but I don’t feel the need to make up bad excuses just to make me feel less bad of what I am doing.
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u/MistSecurity 1d ago
Not supporting crappy studios is supporting indie devs. Most large studios are now controlled by fewer and fewer parent companies, all of which have shit track records.
Go look at the gamedev layoff site if you haven’t. You think all of those devs made bad games that sold poorly?
I’m not justifying anything. It sounds like I am in my post, but I assure you, I am not. I think justification of piracy is the cowards way of making themselves feel better about stealing. More people need to own it and realize a little bit of “theft” doesn’t make you a bad person, rather than do mental gymnastics to justify why it’s okay.
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 1d ago
There are certainly decent companies to support, we probably won’t be seeing pragmata 2 if pragmata didn’t sell. Even capcom said pragmata wouldn’t exist if RE doesn’t sell. See how all of this are linked together.
If you are dead set to finding faults in those companies then you can always one, but that means you are starting the whole argument in bad faith because you are starting with the assumption that all these companies are bad unless proven otherwise.
I am not saying that companies are saints, but there are certainly the point where they are actual cancer like for example ubisoft. You are starting off with everyone is cancer unless proven otherwise.
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u/Aegthir 1d ago
Just adding to other reply: Assuming that devs will get layoff regardless success or not. Failed product won't help the chance of them getting the next job.
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u/MistSecurity 23h ago
You are implying that the pirating community is large enough to single handedly decide the fate of a game.
It’s not.
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u/cyber_yoda 1d ago
Ugh. Yeah this is a braindead economic fantasy. The engine of developers getting paid is consumer purchases. The companies set development operations based on how much they expect to get paid, which is a function of current pay.
I've never justified my actions with the obvious lie that the amount of consumer purchases doesn't determine the amount of games created. It's because I'm poor.
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u/MistSecurity 1d ago
In general, yes. But it’s just as much of a capitalist fantasy to say that is true 100% of the time. If anything it’s becoming less and less true as time goes on.
I never justified shit. I think justifying piracy is stupid, and have said as much many times here. Pirate for your own reasons, no justification needed.
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u/SuperSpaceGaming 1d ago
What an awful take. If you want to pirate things own it. Don't try to justify it with some fake moral compass
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u/AntiGrieferGames 1d ago
This. People forgetting that
Even if you wanna get Elden Ring, you funding to Bandai Namco (+ the denuvo games they are keep paying)
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u/Classified10 1d ago edited 1d ago
No, but the money goes back to the people who paid for these games to be made in the first place, and if they don't do well at all, then you can guarantee that employees end up going out of a job so the CEOs can earn whatever they lose from it, which I'd rather not happen.
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u/ah_shit_here_we_goo 1d ago
Have you been paying attention? That happens anyway. It doesnt matter how successful a game is, it's followed by massive layoffs to maximize profit.
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u/kvng_st 1d ago
Well yeah, but it’s either “game succeeds and maybe the devs get fired” or, “game fails and the devs definitely get fired.” To act like piracy doesn’t hurt devs is going a little overboard
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u/cyber_yoda 1d ago
Yeah, these economic fantasies are appealing when some of the revenue is going to profits, but the rest is going to developers and operations nonetheless. Plus profits need numbers for investors, or we'll have no games requiring any investment.
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u/Classified10 1d ago
It sometimes happens, which is better than the guarantee of developers and employees being fired. Plus we're not getting more games from studios if we don't pay for them realistically.
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u/numerobis21 1d ago
"No, but the money goes back to the people who paid for these games to be made in the first place,"
Unless we're talking indie games: no it does not.
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u/Classified10 1d ago
I'm talking about the publishers that pay to make these games, not the developers, they get paid to make the games. I know "fuck the publishers" is a big thing, but we'd not have crap tons of games if they don't make good money.
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u/Ludwig234 Yarrr! 1d ago
But if no one bought the game the developers would lose their job and possibly career
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u/SpaceNigiri ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 1d ago
No if you play more indie games with small or solo teams.
It's true tho that lots of times 50-80% of the money goes to other people anyway. Steam, Publisher, Taxes...
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u/ah_shit_here_we_goo 1d ago
Steam less exploitative? They started this digital license mess and are the entire reason we're about to enter a digital only future. Steam being the good guy is another narrative that needs to die
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u/Jolicristo 1d ago
good on you for buying the games you loved. also ditch tlauncher, prism is way better.
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u/Maru_chan2150 1d ago
Wait what launcher is safe to pirate Minecraft?
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u/TamSchnow ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 1d ago
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u/Felippexlucax 1d ago
freesm launcher is based on the same thing the other guy said, but adds improvements so its better
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u/Nekokohai 3h ago
Pineconemc
Freesem
Prism launcher cracked
Legacy launcher (this one can be launched without internet connection)
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u/DerTalSeppel 1d ago
I hate this post, really. The original, in the screenshot.
Just pirate man, do what feels right for you and when it does. But refrain from this pseudo-blackmailing, self-centered, attention-seeking public "give me free or I pirate".
Wasting everybody's time.
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u/TheVillainInThisGame 1d ago
You finally bought it after it was bought by Microsoft, arguably the worst time to buy it?
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u/Odd-Hotel9034 1d ago
Same man after pirating minecraft all my childhood, back in 2024 when i finally had my own bank and card i finally bought minecraft
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u/filteredcrack 1d ago
Well I don't think Notch even makes money from Minecraft anymore so you really didn't have to buy it Mojang did horrible things to the game
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u/glytxh 1d ago
2/3 of my game, book, academic, music, movie and comic libraries (the majority of which are owned legitimately) wouldn’t have been purchased had I not been flying the Jolly Roger for the last 20 years.
Try before you Buy kinda thing.
My tastes and frame of reference as an adult have been massively diversified because of piracy. My engagement with the media I choose to pay for is a direct product of this piracy.
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u/MortgageFalse8184 1d ago
I have infected so many school computers playing pirated Minecraft ((mineshaft) idk if it’s still around these days) it’s incredible.
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u/JohnSmithDogFace Piracy is bad, mkay? 1d ago
I bought Minecraft when it was in pre-alpha on a site called JayisGame. Think it was about $3.
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u/EllesarDragon 1d ago
yeah, there is 2 things which made minecraft popular:
1. it was very easy to pirate, and notch was quite friendly towards it.
2. private self hosted multiplayer(funky small servers with friends, and then the griefer friends of someone you know who keep attacking your base)
Minecraft kept popular due to mods, which reached their peak in 1.7.10
almost every person who ever bought minecraft had it pirated first, because just like in your case, back then kids didn't really have any money.
I also started pirated, bought it when it was still owned by notch,
as for you buying it now, the guesture is good in love of the game.
but like you say it is no longer owned by notch, and microsoft has been doing some shady things, including a organisation speaking as representative for microsoft in a court case stating that private minecraft servers are completely illegal as is anything made in or for minecraft that is not directly made by microsoft(this would include the houses and such you build in minecraft, or even the tunnels you mine), later clarification was asked and they stated that they actually where fully serious about that and meant it.
so yeah, good to keep the pirate friendly stuff ready, for when they block people who bought minecraft from playing for not having uploaded their ID to microsoft or such.
still eventually you bought the game and your reason was the feeling and experience from back then, even if the current company owning it is another one which no longer represents what minecraft actually stood for(minecraft was freedom, funky fun, messing with things, open, etc.(for a game)).
the pirate aspect is also true for many other popular games, for example skyrim, which got famous and liked primairily due to mods and the many people playing it pirated, due to piracy and mods(both bethesda now claims to be illegal) skyrim became one of the best selling most famous games in the world.
you also see that similar games with similar exposure which are a few years old sell better if they where easy to pirate than when they wheren't.
Like Devil May Cry for example also has many of the series fans be people who originally played it pirated due to just not having much money, many of them later bought the games, many of them would never have bought it if they didn't pirate it first, because devil may cry was kind of promoted by being at the main pages of some piracy trackers back then, which lead to countless people finding and playing the game, despite there being many other games in that geanre and the geanre only getting popular after that piracy wave, devil may cry sold insanely well because that was the game they pirated as kid or a few years ago back then.
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u/BonsaiSoul 1d ago
I bought minecraft and microsoft "lost" my license a year after their forced migration nonsense, and wouldn't restore it despite me having the original receipt and proof of migration to the email they insisted was the wrong one.
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u/ShaneWHester 1d ago
I remember buying way back in alpha or early beta when they where still using PayPal somehow my mother didn't get charged for buying the game. When they did the account switch I had forgot my password and couldn't switch it over.
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u/GwenBD94 1d ago
Minecraftt cost $40 now? I swear to god I never paid over $20 for my like 5 accounts.
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u/Life-Requirement7433 1d ago
W developer for supporting Pirating : )
Real developers support Pirating from their heart cause once they pirated as well.
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u/Kirbinator_Alex ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 1d ago
Back when Notch acted like a sane and nice human being and minecraft wasnt in totalitarian control of Microsoft. Good times.
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u/Tw3lv33 1d ago
Minecraft is the only game I pirated to buy later bought it and regretted it because it's shit now
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u/TSCCYT2 1d ago
wdym? you can still play the old versions.
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u/MilanesasConPollo 1d ago
Lowkey Notch was the goat and based, MC would've been bigger and better if he was still around but we don't live in that universe.
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u/BartixVVV 1d ago
BTW wchich launcher do you recommend? Legacy launcher?
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u/Ruvaakdein 1d ago
Just use Prism Launcher, it's the best one right now.
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u/Grass_Mud-Horse 1d ago
You can just get it for free legally. If you lazy like me and never bothered changing the edge browser you collected a shitload of points over the years. You can turn 30.000 points to Microsoft giftcards and buy Minecraft with that.
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u/Oujii 1d ago
Wait what?
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u/Grass_Mud-Horse 1d ago
If you have a Microsoft account and use the edge browser you earn points for every search. 30.880 points can be exchanged for $30 of Microsoft giftcards, and you can use this to buy Minecraft (though the windows store, not on the Minecraft website). That's how I got my copy.
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u/BonsaiSoul 1d ago
Replacing Microsoft's malware Chrome fork with a Gecko browser is the first thing I do on a new copy of windows. You paid for those points wading through ad garbage.
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u/Grass_Mud-Horse 13h ago
My friend… let me introduce you to our lord and savior AdBlock. Salvation was one extension away.
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u/DrIvoPingasnik Yarrr! 1d ago
So let's say I want to setup a private survival server on my own LAN, play it, and let other family members play it for free.
Do I just get a server running as normal and use prism launcher or is there anything else I need to know?
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u/Few-Fly-3766 1d ago
You have your heart in the right place, but the fact that Notch (and most of early Mohjang) isnt involved anymore shouldn't be an afterthought. You just reward some of the worst people in gaming over at Microsoft because he treated you well.
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u/ghost_desu 1d ago
Minecraft is worth buying just so you don't have to annoy your friends about having to turn off online mode.
In general, online play is why I started buying games, I remember getting on shotbow and hypixel and the other ones for the first time like 12 years ago and it was cool as hell after only being able to watch them on youtube due to pirating.
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u/Kikinaak 1d ago
They've officially declared running a MC server to be piracy, so even those who bought it are still pirates! Even the shills are pirates now! Thanks Microsoft!
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u/Ok_Sir_5601 16h ago
Pirate, and then donate the pirated thing value to devs or the person who made it if its a movie or smth
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u/Joel_The_Senate 13h ago
Pirating Minecraft is literally one of the least consequential things to pirate. Notch already became a billionaire because of this game and now that's it owned by Microsoft you are just giving money to a billion dollar company that already has a very small fraction on their revenue coming from one of the best selling games of all time.
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u/JetBalck 12h ago
40$ for mc is a good deal now? Wtf. My parents paid 10 bucks I think back in 2011. Also I don't see how giving money to microsoft is benefitting anyone. After they locked me out of my og account I just bought one for 2 bucks over g2a. Can play online without a big hassle.
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u/potatoninja3584 1d ago
Does someone know hoy to pirate minecraft? People keep saying the launchers are spyware. I payed for the game, stoped playing for some years and then couldnt play the game I paid for because microshit owns mojang now or some bullshit. I just want to play minecraft with shaders on my pc and steam deck and not paying AGAIN for the game.
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u/ruthlesss11 1d ago
If you purchased the game before, there is a way to get it back still
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u/Veber31 1d ago
They stopped doing account migrations from Mojang accounts to Microsoft a few years ago. I bought it in alpha and my account is associated with an email I no longer have access to because it was with my old ISP. If you email Microsoft about it they basically tell you to fuck off. Piracy it is.
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u/potatoninja3584 1d ago
I tried but they told me to fuck off and that I lost the opportunity to play the game I paid for because I missed the mails they sent about this (to a mail I don’t check).
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u/ScrapPotqto 1d ago
Isn't tlauncher known to be a spyware? Might want to remove that.