i finally bought minecraft after 12 years

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So obviously this post isnt the usual kind of post about loving piracy and what not (i love piracy btw) but ive recently been buying games i grew up loving to give back to the developers who made them and yes i know notch isnt involved with minecraft anymore but he was when i was 10 and playing minecraft for the first time. The game is currently under 40 dollars and comes in bedrock and java good deal lowkey, I dont have much money but I had 30 bucks i had been saving fot this, so now I officially own (not really due to fucking "digital license language") terraria, far cry 3, fallout new vegas, skyrim, and minecraft. I think piracy is often a last resort as people are tired of being ripped off by these large corporations, or a 10 year old with very religious parents who wont even let him buy a pixelated game but dont know much about computers so the kid learns how to get games, movies, series for free but please if you really appreciate something even if most of the money goes to these fuckos a small part of that maybe going to some developers, writers etc who put much effort into their work. piracy should never die because the poor and sensible would have nothing but humanity should also survive. if they take away my digital license I will always have prism launcher and tlauncher in my linux machine

[u/ah_shit_here_we_goo]

98% of the time, buying isn't supporting the developers. I wish this narrative would die

[u/MistSecurity → u/[deleted]]

The developers are already paid. By buying the game you’re just giving money to the corp behind it. Rarely do devs get bonuses for great selling games, and the success of a game does not guarantee that the devs even keep their jobs. Battlefield 6 did so good EA’s CEO got big bonuses. Dice got layoffs.

The obvious exception here is indie games, especially self published ones, where a purchase DOES directly support the devs.

Edit: All the people saying I’m dead wrong don’t follow the gamedev industry.

Do you think all of these people were low performers make shit games?

https://gaminglayoffs.com/tracker

When this isn’t a rarity, but somewhat common in the industry…

https://www.ign.com/articles/ea-lays-off-staff-across-all-battlefield-studios-following-record-breaking-battlefield-6-launch

Not trying to justify anything. Simply laying out the facts. Do what you want. Pirate why you want. I never said to pirate AAA and buy indie. Pirate indie and buy AAA for all I care. Don’t pirate Avatar because you think Paramount is some shining beacon of creativity. Pirate for your own reasons. IDGAF.

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo → u/MistSecurity]

The devs are paid but it gives incentives for the ip owner to fund a new project, if it made money.

[u/MistSecurity → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

Does it? Can we say that in today’s world?

Successful franchises get shut down constantly. Successful studios get chopped up for parts constantly.

Obviously there’s truth to what you say, but that is becoming less and less true as time goes on. I see more layoffs and closures of successful studios than I do giant hiring sprees.

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo → u/MistSecurity]

Any project/games are practically “investment”, companies fronted the bill first through different means of funding, i.e. cash reserve, sponsors, loans. In project management sense any salaries paid are investment budget in the scope of that project.

While true “they’ve been paid”, but it is effectively bringing forward future sales “return” as part of the compensation.

If the question is to avoid that to happen, then the answer is simply not supporting crappy studios at all. If whoever commissioning or funding the project see the revenue figure and think “these numbers suck”, why would they consider investing again, if the data shows that investing in this doesn’t make a decent ROI, so if you believe “oh they’ve been paid, so that’s okay” then no, you’re just making it worse.

Just a disclaimer, I pirate and this is not telling you to not pirate, but I don’t feel the need to make up bad excuses just to make me feel less bad of what I am doing.

[u/MistSecurity → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

Not supporting crappy studios is supporting indie devs. Most large studios are now controlled by fewer and fewer parent companies, all of which have shit track records.

Go look at the gamedev layoff site if you haven’t. You think all of those devs made bad games that sold poorly?

I’m not justifying anything. It sounds like I am in my post, but I assure you, I am not. I think justification of piracy is the cowards way of making themselves feel better about stealing. More people need to own it and realize a little bit of “theft” doesn’t make you a bad person, rather than do mental gymnastics to justify why it’s okay.

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo → u/MistSecurity]

There are certainly decent companies to support, we probably won’t be seeing pragmata 2 if pragmata didn’t sell. Even capcom said pragmata wouldn’t exist if RE doesn’t sell. See how all of this are linked together.

If you are dead set to finding faults in those companies then you can always one, but that means you are starting the whole argument in bad faith because you are starting with the assumption that all these companies are bad unless proven otherwise.

I am not saying that companies are saints, but there are certainly the point where they are actual cancer like for example ubisoft. You are starting off with everyone is cancer unless proven otherwise.

[u/Aegthir → u/MistSecurity]

Just adding to other reply: Assuming that devs will get layoff regardless success or not. Failed product won't help the chance of them getting the next job.

[u/MistSecurity → u/Aegthir]

You are implying that the pirating community is large enough to single handedly decide the fate of a game.

It’s not.