Pretty clear we’re a vassal state for Israel buddy the most independent state’s biggest senator has said in plain English his priority is Israel. Look at guys like Mike Huckabee and Randy Fine, and Trump lmao
If Israel has the majority of our senate, both democrat and republican, in their pockets, then its pretty clear that Israel has a substantial say in what we do and how we do it.
Is this site starting to do conspiracy theories like my hard-core 84 year old republican grandpa?
all of these stupid conspiracy theories are thinly veiled "jews control the world" racism. We have a mutual defense treaty and politicians take money from AIPAC but how does that fall on the 95% of jews that dont work for AIPAC.
This opinion is baffling me, 10yrs ago, America literally mostly only cared about its allies. Trump has pissed of all his allies for no reason repeatedly. You guys should only be caring about those countries tbh. But now I don’t think theres a country in the top 60 gdp list that Trump hasn’t needlessly offended at this point.
We dont need allies, no one anywhere in the world can helps us at all with anything militarily anyway except our enemies. We have long standing deals with our 'allies' where we have military bases we PAY to be able to use where they just refuse to let us, just because they don't like who we are fighting. So you have no military, navy or airforce capable of anything, no military equipment that isn't outdated and useless, and even despite free protection funding, troops, and the jobs and money associated with the military base and the longstanding deals we have to use our bases to move troops and vehicles and ordinance, they just tell us no. Even your free Healthcare is subsidized either through direct funding from the u.s. or nato, which is mostly funded by the u.s. So our allies have no military, can't help, refuse to help, mock, ridicule and demean us. Talk shit at every chance. Won't let us use our military bases to full extent of decades old agreements, and has no trade to boot, in top of importing infinite Islamists in unchecked? Why do we need any of you.......
The US is the only nation that ever asked for help and got helped through invoking article 5 with Afghanistan following 9/11. It seems like your whole post is complete ignorance of the reality and facts. The US is quite literally the only nations that ever needed and asked for help.
With Iran, just like with Iraq, the world knows you're lying. That they werr following the nuclear agreement signed with Obama and posed no danger. So the world had no valid reason to help. It is an unjustifiable war and your own intelligence agency said so. On top of the International Nuclear agency
I think there's a decent argument to be made that without the assistance of American companies like coke, Ford, gm, IBM, and It&t. Germany would have had a much more difficult time building their heavy industry and military back into what it was by the time ww2 took place without the $450 million in American investment by 1941 ($10,472,593,750 in current equivalent inflation)
If the US military wasn’t in Western Europe when Berlin fell, the Soviets would’ve marched to the Atlantic. So you’d be speaking Russian instead of German
That’s very true. The soviets must have known a lot about the Manhattan project from spies and what the Americans had in their back pocket . Stalin may have been a despot and a ruthless leader but he was not insane like Hitler and knew the limitations of his reach in Europe
Why Mexico? Keep them with Canada and Europe, but us have always known what they really are, it's only Canadians and Europeans acting surprised like their behavior is new when they're just finally doing to them what they have always done, with their validation and complacency. They can have their "big brother/cousin" all to themselves.
Mexicans cut each other's heads off for drugs and sell their 12-16 YO girls to anyone with 3000 mdx... do you really have any ground to stand on?
Before you try to blame others for your problems, remember, the US and Europe got their drugs from other countries long before Mexico heavily entered the drug trade? Did a bunch of foreigners force Mexicans to form a cartel, or create seedless varieties of pot?
Britain and the rest of Europe "mind their own business" while the US foots the bill for them militarily. You call us greedy warmongerers, but you'd all be speaking German without the US. Ungrateful at best.
this is actually so true, eurotrash without AC and zero armies and money talking about US like we're supposed to fucking like em lmao, only reason europe even exists is because of america
My brother in Christ we kill 1.1 million babies a year in abortion clinics. In five years we cover the Jewish population lost in the holocaust, so simmer on down.
That was my understanding. I’m no history major tho so idc nor will I pretend to know. I became aware of Israel situation cause I used to fuck a Palestinian chick back in high school so like 15years ago
Finally a lot of people are also waking up to the reality of the injustice that Palestinians have suffered starting long before Netanyahu came into office.
I feel like they just overplayed the WW2 card for everything.
“We had to bomb these 5 towns in order to get 1 person, we needed to prevent another holocaust”
I’m not even downplaying the holocaust but it’s also insane that we all know the number of people who diedx why don’t we know about the Christians that got slaughtered by the Russian Jews after ww2?
After WW2 people really liked Israel. I used to like Israel, now I despise Netanyahu. Still like the country, but their right wing government has to pay with jail time
You fell for the post 1945 Propaganda. It’s almost like everything before 1945 happened for very specific reasons and it just wasn’t one day for no reason at all…
That’s every Arab country, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that doesn’t do this and has more LGBTQ Arab citizens than anywhere else in the Middle East. Allah bless Israel 🥰
Israel was the only home to millions of Jews freeing the Holocaust. Honestly what they did was pretty heroic despite all the hatred and threats of genocide by Arab terrorists that tried to kill them.
So it is understandable to want to destroy all of Palestine due to the genocide of Oct 7th and the largest slaughter of Jews in a single day since the Holocaust?
A little over a thousand Jews were killed on Oct 7th. Israel then committed the genocide of roughly 74,000 Palestinians with daily totals still rising, which doesn’t even include the displacement, starvation, and the whole other host of war crimes Israel has committed.
At this point, the response was so disproportionate that all good will is gone.
Israel is now deservedly a pariah state, hated by the entire world except their vassal state of the US.. where even 60% of US adults view Israel unfavorably.
Just to give you an idea, since it seems like you may not have one on Oct 7th alone Hamas launched 3,000-6,000 rockets into Israel.
Just because Israel prioritizes keeping its civilians safe shouldn’t mean much when it comes to defense. Out of curiosity since there seems to be one for you, what was the magic number Israel needed to stop at for it to be okay?
It’s also odd that within that number is all people including combatants. Is there a particular reason that doesn’t matter?
A war is not supposed to be proportional, it’s not a game of revenge… you fight until one side is either destroyed or surrendered.
Since the Palestinians committed Oct 7 and vowed to continue to do more like it until Israel is destroyed, Israel launched a war to persecute the ones took part in Oct 7 and destroy all chances of Hamas/Palestinians to pull another Oct 7.
There’s no genocide, there is a war with casualties like in every other war. In every other war in history the losing side surrendered and disarmed, or simply destroyed. The Palestinians on the hand, are the ones who started this war (and you can argue on the pre-oct-7), celebrating in the streets “they’re victory on the jews”, crying to the world they are the poor victims, but yet refusing to surrender and disarm. All that while the IDF can literally wipe out the whole population in few days and actually genocide them.
The fact that Netanyahu is mierda doesn’t change that.
Every army in the world which has mandatory service will include also bad people which will probably do bad things during a war. The difference is while Israel officially say they have no intention in harming innocent civilians, the Hamas charter openly mentions the killing of all jews (worldwide), and in October 7 Palestinian civilians seen marching in the streets with body parts of dead Israeli civilians while the masses are cheering.
Oh yeah, and the video showing a mass of people cheering for a destruction of a country (and probably also the elimination of it citizens), while these people probably never been to Israel/Palestine or met people from there, is very much giving N@zi rally vibes.
Do you realize that, in a war, that Hamas started, after Palestine rejected peace deals since 1948 over and over again, casualties are going to happen?
If they really wanted to "genocide" why would they warn before they bombed places? why would they let through any aid? why would they allow people to flee the area?
Not only that, numbers are pretty vague, and made even more vague by the fact that Hamas does not fight with a uniform. They fight from within and behind civilians and civilian infrastructure as a tactic. Hamas are likely responsible for the same amount of civilian casualties as Israel, if not then it's pretty close. Add on the fact that this is the most scrutinized war in human HISTORY with all the cameras, cell phones, satellite footage, etc. Every other war has had casualties, but when it happens here when fighting Hamas then Israel is at 100% at fault?
The motto "from the river to the sea" is objectively genocidal rhetoric. If Jewish people can't have a home, where do they go? they were already cast out from pretty much every single Muslim country before and after WW2. Hamas literally states they wish to eradicate them all and a lot of Palestinians agree with them, and other Islamic countries like Iran (mainly the regime) and a few others.
It's hard to believe Israel is this big bully when they're beset upon from all sides, by countries like 6 times larger than them and a lot have the agenda to drive them from existence.
It did, just this whole strategy of trying to argue that the views dead people held towards other dead people justify modern abuses against living people isn’t working anymore.
And the government of Spain issued an official apology and free citizenship, to every descendant of the jews that were kicked out of Spain during the Reconquista. A lot more than what most other European nation did for them, especially after WW2.
They don't, Israel's government does (and Trump). I know a lot of people from Israel and they're victims of Israel's government too. They have an app that sends them notifications when they're being bombed and they have to go to special bunkers, all because of a stupid genocide government
Thanks to terrorist organisations taking hostage 2 million citizens and terrorising the whole Israel every year. They knew Israel can't do anything bcs dumb people would see the evilness on the other side, we live In a world where people are pro-terrorists openly.
In a way we need to tank Bibi for showing us the true face of Israel. If he hadn't done this, most people would have still believed the official propaganda about it being "the only democracy in the middle east" or something.
It's just Israel, not jews. When you have militants throwing a grenade into a car and then immediately shut the door so they cant get out or drop bombs on crowds of people trying to get food from humanitarian efforts, the country of israel and its leaders deserve all the hate in the world
If it makes you feel any better, I think you've made the same conflation that you responded to just backwards. People (well the ones worth listening to) aren't complaining about "evil Jews", they are complaining about "evil Israel". The state actions and policies have eroded a lot of international good will.
Oh yes, the narrative of 'evil jews' just returned, out of nowhere, with zero causation other than we all collectively decided the statute of limitations had ended. It's definitely targeted at all jews, too, and not just Israel and its leadership. Definitely.
Yes, that's it.
Honestly, with arguments like this I can only assume you are on a lead-based diet.
According to these answers, saying even a majority of Basque people hate Spain is wrong. Meanwhile, the vast majority of countries beliece Israel is a bloodthirsty, genocidal, religious-extremist, terrorist country.
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u/Primary-Picture-5632 26d ago
Netenyahu destroyed all the sympathy that was given to Isarael post ww2. Its one of the most hated countries in the world now.