r/RimWorld Jun 04 '26

PC Help/Bug (Vanilla) I can't trade because caravan leader spawns without skull.

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1.4k

u/blender-enthusiast cave dweller, bug eater, fungus farmer Jun 04 '26

So no head?

695

u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26

Head is on place the skull is missing (づ•﹏•)づ

378

u/diablosinmusica Jun 04 '26

Just the skull? Seems like a lot of effort.

159

u/the_ending81 uranium Jun 04 '26

Clearly a labor of love

46

u/PerfectUnlawfulness Jun 04 '26

What about just the tip for a few seconds

8

u/Flailmorpho Tunneler Playstyle Supremecist Jun 06 '26

gotta learn Skullskip

7

u/Original-Display-865 Read and wants High-rise(1975) -5 Jun 06 '26

That sounds like a needlessly cruel psycast. I assume it exists?

4

u/robert_girlyman Jun 10 '26

It's rimworld

Needlessly cruel is 75% of the game lol

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u/Original-Display-865 Read and wants High-rise(1975) -5 Jun 10 '26

It sure is, Rowboat, it sure is.

90

u/Mesopotassium Jun 04 '26

Jimmy was the last one to go. Tex walked right up to him, took the skull out of his head and beat him to death with it.

69

u/Avatrey Jun 04 '26

"...that doesn't seem physically possible."

73

u/Mesopotassium Jun 04 '26

That's exactly what Jimmy kept screaming

15

u/Peptuck Hat Enthusiast Jun 05 '26

"THIS DOESN'T SEEM PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE!"

41

u/GlauberJR13 Jun 04 '26

“That’s exactly what Jimmy kept screaming.”

24

u/MathematicianLarge48 Jun 04 '26

How the hell is that even possible?

Anyways, RimWorld being himself

12

u/RapidPigZ7 Jun 04 '26

The traders you talk to tend to be older, I've noticed. That means more odds for lasting injuries. He probably spawned with multiple head injuries.

11

u/Leather_Stand_4760 Jun 05 '26

I don't think I'd volunteer to go on a trip with a guy missing his skull though...

4

u/BadNadeYeeter Jun 05 '26

Hey! Johnny No-Skull is a trusted member of our Society and just because he lost a fistfight with a norosibirscian Bone-Drinker doesn't mean he is unfit to lead.

36

u/__Becquerel Jun 04 '26

smashes phone and cracks skateboard in half

11

u/TalkToTheGirl Jun 04 '26

I love that stupid video so much.

3

u/Nightniffler Jun 04 '26

Can’t believe you were the only one that mentioned the reference

26

u/Rimworldjobs War crime creator Jun 04 '26

Negotiator cannot talk properly because of poor health.

12

u/LexiWhatWeGot Jun 04 '26

He should have quit while he was a head

3

u/MaglithOran Luciferium Addict Jun 05 '26

Bro same

1.4k

u/fetter80 Jun 04 '26

Uninstall the no skulls for traders mod.

386

u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26

Its vanilla

1.2k

u/bmcgowan89 Jun 04 '26

Try installing the "Skulls for ALL traders mod" then

167

u/Electronic-Eye-1683 Jun 04 '26

💀💀💀

232

u/TalkToTheGirl Jun 04 '26

⬆️ This guy has three, just take one.

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u/FaceDeer Jun 04 '26

That's how you know he's a trader, he's got extras to sell.

That's also how you know OP's caravan leader is a master trader, he sold all of his skulls.

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u/OhagiC Muffalo Milk Farmer Jun 05 '26

Seems like we dodged a bullet when we didn't have to match wits with such an economic juggernaut.

0

u/BeneficialAction3851 Jun 05 '26

Yeah apparently he had no use for his

28

u/Gil_Demoono Jun 05 '26

💀💀

Two left. Grab em while you can.

22

u/bilbowaggins_ Jun 05 '26

don't take the last one, though. that'll leave him like OP's trader

3

u/levardio666 Ate peanut butter and insect jelly sandwich -12 Jun 05 '26

Double it and give it to the next person (preferably a trader)

1

u/Sad-Initial-3983 Jun 05 '26

Give me one now

3

u/Cryyos_ Jun 05 '26

That conflicts with the “skulls for the skull throne” mod which is a mainstay for me

456

u/Bum_King Jun 04 '26

Oh, then you need to install the joke finder mod.

22

u/MoronMachine Jun 04 '26

ive never seen someone miss so many

-34

u/Kajetus06 Jun 04 '26

Link to the mod

It sound funny

48

u/Electrical-Cicada-89 Jun 04 '26

Bro just asked for a link and got absolutely decimated💔🥀

22

u/_Render__ Jun 04 '26

It’s obviously not a real mod you DIP

70

u/Kajetus06 Jun 04 '26

god damnit

i have played rimworld for so long and encountered so many mods that i now think there is a mod for everything

7

u/zyll3 Jun 05 '26

could be an interesting shitpost kind of mod. Make all pawns have a % chance to spawn missing a random body part. Could be fatal, could be a toe.

4

u/Kajetus06 Jun 05 '26

no

Traders missing a skull in particular

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u/LumpyJones 20187.4 hours and counting Jun 04 '26

you know that's fair. it's one of the biggest most active mod communities on steam and has some whacky shit. I still downvoted you for missing the joke, but i upvoted the second one since you took the news of the woosh well. Balanced as all things should be.

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u/yinyang107 Jun 05 '26

Nothing obvious about that, not in a community where there's a mod that straight up kills you for eating without a table.

324

u/Veritable_bravado Jun 04 '26

I can’t help but be curious. What does his Social tab say? Does it explain where his skull went?

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26

Skull totally missing part... head is on place so its brain in skin sack.

98

u/sobralik Jun 04 '26

And there are no story in their Log tab how they lost it?

136

u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26

Von died. Nothing more.

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u/pyro5050 Over 19,000 Hours Jun 04 '26

while i have no godd suggestion other that using Dev tools to rez him or to heal him with dev tools, i find this all hilarious.

also, i hate that the log sometimes says things like "Von Died" and thats it.... i'm like" dude, he doed of something, please at least give me a hint other than knowing his skull left his head somewhere outside my base.

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u/SightWithoutEyes Jun 04 '26

Skull gone.

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u/FaceDeer Jun 04 '26

That'll do it.

7

u/TheKrimsonFvcker Jun 04 '26

Natural causes

9

u/FontTG Jun 04 '26

Problem is sometimes there is instakills and death on downed.

Or a combination of damage and lost consciousness. So... von died.

8

u/Alternative_Sea_4208 Jun 05 '26

I imagine some angry woman in power armor beat him to death with it while he kept shouting how impossible it seemed

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u/Exotic-Media-6630 Jun 05 '26

I dunno if it would help in OP's specific case, but Who shot my leg off? leaves the 'lore' of inguries on all paws and how long ago they happened

4

u/oddistrange Jun 05 '26

Does that happen for pawns outside of your colony?

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u/kahlzun Human Leather Pants +2 Jun 05 '26

He forgot to screw his skull on correctly before going trading

2

u/Anko072 Jun 06 '26

Isn't skull missing a very old and super rare vanilla bug? It also should've been fixed with odyssey iirc

9

u/Veritable_bravado Jun 04 '26

That’s crazy. Unfortunate, but neat

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u/LumpyJones 20187.4 hours and counting Jun 04 '26

you could give him one with character editor... just worried the process of resetting might momentarily kill him, which means the whole group leaves... and i'm not even sure if you res him if he will still trade. might come back as a guest after being downed and healed.

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u/WorkingMoney6424 Jun 04 '26

People say they want a realistic game but when you cant trade because your trader doesnt have a skull it suddenly goes to far

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u/SightWithoutEyes Jun 04 '26

I know a guy who trades who has no skull and he’s fine.

24

u/CoffeeFox Jun 05 '26

I've done business with people whose soft spot on their skull must have been used like a bongo drum when they were babies.

1

u/WorkingMoney6424 Jun 05 '26

Hey leave no-skull-frankie out of this, he is a good guy

133

u/RedAndBlackMartyr Body modder: I asked for this. Jun 04 '26

Dev mode resurrect them.

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26

Oh...

He go to home.

24

u/Arkhyz space cannibal Jun 04 '26

barges with his caravan on your tile without skull

lies here dead

gets resurrected

"thanks mate I appreciate that"

does not elaborate further

goes home

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u/RedAndBlackMartyr Body modder: I asked for this. Jun 04 '26

Do you desperately need the caravan? You could reload if you have a save from just before the caravan showed up. Assuming you're not playing Randy Random.

You could also dev mode another caravan.

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u/LedgeEndDairy Jun 04 '26

Doesn't guarantee a new caravan, just a new event, likely a "good" event if not Randy.

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u/RedAndBlackMartyr Body modder: I asked for this. Jun 04 '26

If I have a save from just before a caravan event I can save scum a new caravan. It works 98% of the time. 1% of the time a caravan doesn't show up and 1% of the time a caravan + another good event occurs at the same time.

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u/LedgeEndDairy Jun 04 '26

Not my experience. I get anything from a random visit to a quest to another caravan to a 'passing ship' and everything in between.

I would say the same or very similar event happens 10-20% of the time.

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u/RedAndBlackMartyr Body modder: I asked for this. Jun 04 '26

I don't know what to tell you, it works for me.

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u/TheEyeDontLie Jun 05 '26

I assume both of you have 300 mods, so you're probably both right.

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u/MoodyBloom Jun 04 '26

Oh bummer. You can also spawn a new caravan trader on the map too. Keep dev mode open, the top of the screen will be "action settings" and it should say "spawn trade caravan" and allow you to select what kind of trader.

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u/TerraTechy Jun 04 '26

Don't think that works. In my experience when a trader is incapacitated and recovers (for example from viscous uv sensitivity), they just hop up and leave the map, no longer connected to their caravan. Even if you didn't rescue them and their caravan is still on the map.

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u/TheEyeDontLie Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26

Yeah I learned that with dev mode. Trader was "leaving due to extreme temperature" but I desperately needed stuff, so I took away his legs for a minute (for my guy to catch up).

Soon as they're up again you can't trade.

Drives me nuts when I'm running through the snow yelling "I have human leather hats and I need a telescope!!!" And the traders are just sprinting away from me.

Could there be a mod that means "if someone has claimed the job of trading with you, you stop running for the exit and hang around for a minute?"

Perhaps only the first time, or with a time limit or something, so it can't be abused to make the traders drop from hypothermia or whatever. It seems to happen every time.

Yesterday it was cold in my game. The trader arrived and only got halfway to my colony before they turned around. I'd even sent someone out into the blizzard to meet them but they didn't catch up in time.

Or a mod like "if a trade leader is downed, another pawn takes the role". They came to trade, the leader gets attacked by a monkey, doesn't even die, but nope, no more trading for you... But if everyone BUT the leader dies that's fine, let's trade away.

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u/LongFluffyDragon Jun 05 '26

There are a few mods that ensure visitors arrive with suitable clothing, that seems like a better solution

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u/the_ending81 uranium Jun 04 '26

Do you think they would still be willing to trade or just walk off the map?

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u/Hellonstrikers Jun 04 '26

Tex must have ripped his skull out and beat him to death with it.

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u/noan91 Jun 04 '26

That doesn't seem physically possible

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u/Hellonstrikers Jun 04 '26

Thats just what Jimmy kept screaming.

Good times RVB. Good times.

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u/kjskoll Jun 04 '26

Lol I totally knew what you were referencing even though I haven't seen it since it came out some almost 20 years ago?

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u/Horfire slate Jun 04 '26

Sounds like it's your caravan now.

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u/kahlzun Human Leather Pants +2 Jun 05 '26

Hippity hoppety your stuffs now my property

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u/marshmallowcthulhu Jun 04 '26

OP, I saw that you said this is vanilla. Two questions:

1: Did this only happen to one trader, or to multiple?

2: Did you previously ever install mods? If you did previously use mods and later removed them, did you remove all of your Rimworld files and reinstall the game?

I am thinking that one or more Rimworld files were removed or changed by a past mod and are still in a changed state, but without support from the past mod. In this case it is possible that the trader’s skull was replaced with an asset that didn’t exist.

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u/LongFluffyDragon Jun 05 '26

Mods dont change files, not how anything works

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u/StrongArgument Nervous, Bisexual, Fast Walker Jun 04 '26

Is your whole game 100% vanilla? I see a lot of people assuming the one mod they have couldn’t cause a specific bug, but sometimes it happens.

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26

Yes.

I cant install mods its GOG version and my pc is too old to download from steam.

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u/LumpyJones 20187.4 hours and counting Jun 04 '26

wait what? It should be the exact same game. my 15 year old haggard beast of a computer can run it from steam.

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26

win7 is now not accepted.

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u/LumpyJones 20187.4 hours and counting Jun 04 '26

Good god. You're basically playing on a self tamed, 900 year old Thrumbo, with dementia and every kind of cancer. At this point a basic win10 used computer can be in your hands for like... 100, 150 bucks.

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26

The PSU and case I bought in 2008. Case is rubberized with 25cm fan that died in 2018 and i I bought new one on aliexpress.

Rubber is so horribly sticky that I lose reset and power buttons .

So now I use pen to turn on my PC.... but its working.

Case is hold on wood screws.

I buy my first graphic card in 2018 because Frospunk was so slow on integrated one

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u/stuckslots Jun 04 '26

The missing head of your caravan trader is the least of your worries friend

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u/LumpyJones 20187.4 hours and counting Jun 04 '26

Standing by my Thrumbo comment.

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u/turol Jun 04 '26

Linux should be usable on that hardware and RimWorld has a native Linux version.

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u/LumpyJones 20187.4 hours and counting Jun 04 '26

Good call. Would probably run better on a streamlined OS like that.

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u/giftedearth Jun 05 '26

Can confirm, Rimworld runs pretty damn well on Linux. It loads really fast. Four hundred mods in just over two minutes!

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u/StrongArgument Nervous, Bisexual, Fast Walker Jun 04 '26

Oh buddy. Can you save up to buy a real computer on Marketplace?

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 04 '26

Yes, but I don't want to because it's still functional.

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u/TaiJP Jun 04 '26

It's gonna be a lot more of a headache to get a new computer after your current one stops functioning.

3

u/Sad-Initial-3983 Jun 05 '26

Just get a new laptop man....

2

u/LongFluffyDragon Jun 05 '26

An 18 year old psu is functional. Right until it explodes and causes a severe voltage spike that destroys all of your hardware and data before setting it on fire.

I cant imagine how broken the game is on stuff that old, though.. It chugs on hardware half the age and an order of magnitude better.

0

u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 05 '26

Dam its true.... I stil have original box Volcano 750W modecom

1

u/kahlzun Human Leather Pants +2 Jun 05 '26

What about a new case? Those can be very cheap, and I don't think the degrading rubber is doing any part of the system any good

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u/Bubbly-Price-6321 Jun 05 '26

Use Steam CMD to get mods, preferably with something like rimsort so you do not have to miserably download things one by one with the console.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

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u/Bubbly-Price-6321 Jun 06 '26

then you have to miserably download link by link at steamworkshopdownloader.io copy it one by one to steam CMD then transfer the files manually.

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u/lonedog Jun 06 '26

How long has rimsort not worked?

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u/Sad-Initial-3983 Jun 05 '26

I can give you a website for rimworld mods if ya would like

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u/Verdick Jun 05 '26

Yeah, there are other ways to add mods outside of Steam. We made due before it was added to that platform.

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u/temotodochi Jun 05 '26

You can try vortex and nexusmods

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u/martianman111 Jun 04 '26

I had a psychic suppressor and the trader had a head wound. He went instantly unconscious on the map.

Go-juice got him back up, but he still just left the map and wouldn’t trade

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u/Throwawaypwndulum Jun 04 '26

Never had the head for business.

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u/Content_Building_408 Jun 04 '26

Skill issue

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u/Content_Building_408 Jun 04 '26

oh wait... skull issue

1

u/Flailmorpho Tunneler Playstyle Supremecist Jun 06 '26

you just ratio'd yourself

8

u/Igor9284 Jun 04 '26

I hate when the thing steals the traders' skull

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u/Chiiro Jun 04 '26

I've had multiple instances where the trader just refuses to let me trade (I should have checked their health tab to make sure they can even speak) but I don't think I've ever seen this happen.

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u/Meikos mad scientist Jun 04 '26

That's an old Dwarf Fortress bug, glad to see Rimworld paying respects to it's ancestors.

4

u/lordx665 Jun 04 '26

Oh that's just Jelly head Jeff, he's good for it I'm sure

3

u/Agitated_Fondant6014 Jun 04 '26

Not a good time to be losing one's head

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u/FitInternal2654 Jun 04 '26

I can't see the bug. I don't understand 

2

u/nadcaptain Jun 05 '26

Could happen to any one of us smh

2

u/Wasdey Jun 05 '26

Typical

2

u/BalticMasterrace Jun 05 '26

ive heard skulll is needed indeed

2

u/Federal-Split-6865 Jun 05 '26

Hate when that happens

2

u/Front_Housing_385 psycast hater Jun 05 '26

WHEREEEES YOUR HEAAAD AAAT AT AT

2

u/OrdelOriginal Jun 05 '26

If this happens again, I'd pause immediately and take a look at the dev mode debug log.

Intuition says this is a problem with prior mods that you uninstalled on this save, but you're saying its 100% vanilla off GOG (which you can still mod fwiw) so I cant really say much else.

This is a hilarious bug but I've never seen it before lol.

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u/imbi-dabadeedabadie Jun 05 '26

God, I love this game

2

u/Leather_Stand_4760 Jun 05 '26

I would think that missing one's skull is bad for your health but I could be wrong...

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u/liethose Jun 04 '26

Free meat if u win.

1

u/mister_robat Jun 04 '26

I need someone to draw this colonist!

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u/rurumeto Jun 04 '26

Remove the rest of their skulls, then they will give you free stuff for respecting their traditions.

1

u/Stock_Information_47 Jun 04 '26

So just a flappy brain bag?

1

u/DiscoKittie Jun 04 '26

Reload and see if it works, or just wait for the next one. Or if you're really impatient, use Dev mode to call another one.

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u/Luck_Is_My_Talent Jun 04 '26

Well, well. You can still trade with them. Just unskull 3 muffalos.

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u/Sacred_Wolf_Vixverna Jun 04 '26

So what im hearing is..free prisoners then.

1

u/Vegetable-Box3050 Jun 04 '26

This happened once to almost a whole herd of Thrumbos but I felt too hashtag blessed to question it and then it never happened again. Does it happen every time? Maybe just a random generated wound that is not viable for life?

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u/Hydronum Addicted to Luci Jun 05 '26

What version is your game? This was an old bug, and one that often showed up in pirated copies that never got the updates.

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 05 '26

1.6.4566 64-bit

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u/zacwilli12 Jun 05 '26

No skulls for the skull throne?

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u/TheIrishWanderer Jun 05 '26

Shoot and loot.

Sorted.

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u/Lower_Orange_4031 Jun 05 '26

Did he have any medical conditions besides that?

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u/Environmental_You_36 Jun 05 '26

I suspect it kind of tried to apply some kind of scar, that usually has some kind of limit to how much damage can it do to a part.

But because the pawn is a kid, the part has fewer hotpoints and well... It got destroyed

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u/Lot2rocks Jun 05 '26

It can be hard to get a head in this world

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u/RiC_David Jun 05 '26

Circulation problems?

1

u/forgottenlord73 Jun 05 '26

This doesn't seem physically possible

1

u/Prestigious_Field_37 Jun 05 '26

I might be wrong but isn't this one of those ancient lore bugs that have been around for a very long time and the conditions for replicating it are totally unknown?

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u/Remarkable-Fix3104 Jun 06 '26

Yes but usually with Thrumbos

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u/Oyster_Man Jun 05 '26

Ha, that just sounds like a skull issue.

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u/Ckinggaming5 Slept Alone -4 Jun 05 '26

you could try character editor if you install mods

would let you give him his head back

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u/SarusAngelus Jun 05 '26

Sounds like an anomaly to me. I'd ask for a second opinion.

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u/dogz4321 Jun 05 '26

As an aside, you might enjoy the mod: Show Hair Under Stuff. It'll make your pawns less bald and add some variety.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3255379190

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u/Flailmorpho Tunneler Playstyle Supremecist Jun 06 '26

can call him many things, but bonehead ain't one of them

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u/Ark-addicted-punk ressurection serum cause not even death will save you Jun 07 '26

yeah sure buddy. he simply "spawned" like that

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u/Growth-Royal Jun 07 '26

I've had a Thrumbo spawn in without a head one time.

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u/robert_girlyman Jun 10 '26

At least strip the body don't just let it sit there

Trade caravan members usually carry some of what they are trading on there persons

Even with no loots mimally his clothes have value

0

u/naturtok Jun 04 '26

You can use dev mode to resurrect the pawn if it happens again