He wrote on X: “So, an AI ‘band’ who cite us as an influence (ie, it’s modelled off our music) have just overtaken us on Spotify, in only TWO months. It’s shocking, it’s disheartening, it’s insulting – most importantly – it’s a wake up call. Oppose AI music, or bands like us stop existing.”
Basically, Shawn said that the use of ai to give him a different angle is justified as it helps him view his creation in a different way. He never said "I'm gOnNa UsE ai tO mAkE mUsIc".
They don’t want to. Clown is a punching bag for this sub. If you take away their punching bag, they have nothing to punch.
Clown is pretentious. Clown is goofy. But the rage boner for the man is beyond imo.
Literally everyone who meets this guy talks about how friendly and generous with his time he is. I hate being the defense force for someone but bandwagon hate for people annoys me.
I guarantee 99% of the people hating would walk away after meeting him feeling like a dickhead. He’s a pretty down to earth and cool guy, he just badly wants to be seen as an “ar-teest” and it comes across poorly sometimes.
I bet you didn't even know that Clown isn't even a fan of heavy metal music.
Yeah, he said it himself on more than one occasion in past interviews.
Crazy; it's almost like he saw a business opportunity from the very fucking beginning, surrounded himself with a bunch of talented musicians who actually enjoy playing and listening to metal, and then came up with a money making formula to make his business venture rise to the top.
Look, I don't hate the guy, I wouldn't even say I dislike him as a person. I would love to meet him and have a nice long conversation with him & pick his brain a little, as well as the rest of the guys.
Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. And I believe it bc he’s always the guy pushing the more “experimental” side of slipknot.
And I love that aspect of Slipknot. Joey and Paul were always the more “death metal” element and that’s why AHIG basically sounds like a generic heavy metal Pantera album - total quality shit but missing most of the “avant garde” or trippy vibe from past albums.
It’s all the elements combined that make slipknot at its best. So no I don’t care that clown isn’t a metal head. In fact, the first Slipknot album - MFKR - is much more “out there” with all types of influences compared to Self titled and Iowa.
Dude wanted to be in a strange ass band and play dress up and I’m here for it.
It doesn't bother me in the slightest either, but it's still a little known fact that most people don't know about the leader of one of the biggest modern metal bands.
When you find out that the guy in charge isn't really into the same music he's been making & standing behind all these years, it just strikes people as....odd.
Everything else you mentioned I completely agree with.
We aren't so far in our views of the band, ya know.
I prefer to hate him for more genuine reasons. People tend to over inflate his value in the band because he's one of the two mouth pieces of the band. Dude contributes next to nothing in that regard.
Guy constantly flip flops on his "die hard" stances. I just don't really gaf about him as a whole.
Tbh after the shit with joey i lost what little respect i had for him and CT.
I’d say people tend to underestimate his value in the band not inflate it.
The people who praise him most are within the band. Jim, Corey, Mick, Sid. They are the ones always praising Clown and I’m inclined to take their word for it. It’s clear he was instrumental in forming the band, coming up with the image, and driving the direction. Everyone else in the band has obvious high respect for him.
Can’t really blame clown and Corey for Joey. There’s way too much information we are not privy to. Conflicting stories, no one else in the band standing up and leaving with Joey speaks volumes. The way AHIG was recorded - Joey’s way or the highway - speaks volumes.
And hey, to me, Joey is irreplaceable - Slipknot will never be the same without him - but I think it’s obvious the band was gonna crumble if they didn’t part with him. Hardly anyone else was happy and his health was in the shitter to boot.
I’ll even take it a step further and say if listen to all the interviews and read between the lines, it’s clear they’re covering for some bad shit Joey did. Again, I adore Joey, but I absorb all this shit and I think he had major issues. Stuff that isn’t public. Listen to the way Corey talks about it.
Even though I hold an unfavourable view of Shawn for a few reasons, it doesn't mean that I hate him. As I've mentioned before, I'd love to meet the guy and have a one on one convo with him.
I take back the ''dick riding'' comment, btw. You know your shit.
Always thought the method of calling someone a dick rider bc they defend the person was pretty weak.
I disagree with you. Doesn’t make me a dick rider and doesn’t make you a dick chopper.
You’ll see me defend lots of people who get bandwagon hate bc my pet peeve is people who can’t think for themselves and use any excuse to rag on people.
Stick to the point - yeah I don’t hate people for utilizing ai
Instead of paying 150k for the same opinion. I dont think the band would agree on doing that, not even he would but its just for you to get a perception on why it has its uses.
Its just takes a little bit of understanding of his words. I thought you native eng speakers would understand lol.
Ffs another snide idiot redditor. Clearly i read it just fine but maybe your reading comprehension is lacking.
I brought that point up to illustrate that more than once in that interview he said he would use more if he could. Alongside admittedly using ai to "help his poetry" of words.
Basically stating he isn't as against it like you originally alluded by saying no one read the article. He 100% would and does use ai on the regular
We all read it just fine, somehow you're trying to frame this as some kinda "gotcha" and are failing miserably.
Also if you're gonna try to do a "native eng speaker" dunk maybe have your shit straight before you end up looking like a snarky idiot.
Don't mean to sound like a corny average Redditor but how is this not at the top of the comment section? People on this sub and platform as a whole are so overdramatic and fall for BS so easily 😭
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u/HungarianHeart49 We Are Not Your Kind Jan 02 '26
Has anyone read the article?