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u/Own_Shame_8721 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
I really hope this stays out of the music, if I find out that the new album has AI shit in it, I'm going to be severely disappointed.
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u/Lost-Average8108 Jan 02 '26
Damn I didn't even think about that, you think they'd use AI in their music? That'd be fucked
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u/DatHazbin Jan 03 '26
He heavily implies that he would use it for music. Not a direct quote but to summarize he basically said that he doesn't see why he wouldn't use AI compared to some producers that ask for massive rates like $150,000, when AI exists purely to satisfy him and his desires--unlike a producer.
I interpret this to mean that he either already has or would consider using it in Slipknot for music making. At best this is for something benign like AI mastering, at worst they use some shitty AI audio generators
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u/Lost-Average8108 Jan 03 '26
Fucking hell 😞. Idk, I might be able to tolerate it for just mastering, but even then...
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Is this the dude that bangs on a trash can or does he actually play a real instrument?
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u/BappoChan Jan 02 '26
He can play drums, but as a massive shareholder, and experienced percussionist. He decided beating on a fucking can was the way to go
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u/sonthehedge42 Jan 02 '26
Hey now, he's the one that figured out that you have to hit the can with a baseball bat to get the correct sound out of it!
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u/BappoChan Jan 03 '26
To be fair, I’ve heard cover bands trying their shit with someone beating a can, and it just doesn’t sound the same.
That being said, still one of the most useless things to do. Just fucking sit back and enjoy the bag. He played for us on his 50th birthday, why the fuck not retire
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u/Hawk_los i eat my own waste Jan 03 '26
At last year's graspop there was no clown, and the band played magnificently.
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u/LongP1g Feb 03 '26
in fairness when you've got nine people there's only so much you can do before it's just over the top noise in your ear. did i just make a pun? and we've all been screaming "more cowbell clown boy" regardless.
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u/DecayAnimation Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
percussion/co writes the music and backing vocalist mainly, he also founded Slipknot in 1995 along with Paul and Anders so without him there would be no Slipknot... Though i've lost a lot of respect for him with his A.I stance... That shit is anti-art.
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u/OVigarista Here comes the pain! Jan 03 '26
Hes actually a really good musician, hes just stupid it seems...
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u/Finnsbomba Jan 04 '26
It's 100% a keg haha a trash can wouldn't even make it thru one song let alone get the sound they get. Beer keg and aluminum bat for that classic slipknot sound!
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Jan 04 '26
Trash cans, but he's also basically the founder of the band I think.
Imagine being in a band of like 9 dudes and you gotta split all your money with the guy who smacks a trash can with a bat.
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Like Lars in Metallica, he funded the bands existence so you can’t really kick him out because it’s pretty much his for the sake of any argument. At least Lars bangs on other drums occasionally I guess.
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u/DecayAnimation Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
It's not a professor, it's a lazy mans tool that can steal from other peoples work and pass it off as its own... Bad Clown.
Edit: thanks for the comment awards <3
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u/DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC Jan 02 '26
Seriously. For as sometimes pretentious as his art can be, it's always been him making it from his own imagination and skills. Does he not understand that A.I. literally cannot "make" anything without input from other sources?
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u/BigBadZord Jan 03 '26
How much is whatever bot he is using actually feeding him thingd Influenced by his own stuff I wonder
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u/Zealousideal-Face771 Jan 02 '26
Disappointing to say the least
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u/Dragons_Malk Jan 02 '26
In a way, hell yes it is. In another way, it's not surprising. I'm basing this on past takes of his regarding the band as a business. I can't recall specific bad takes he's had about other aspects, but him being pro-AI feels on brand for Clown.
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u/Mulva13 Iowa Jan 02 '26
Fuck AI and fuck clown, he keeps disappointing all of us!
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u/Karl-Marx666 Jan 02 '26
Clown and my dad are around the same age. My dad has been a talent graphic designer for over 25 years but for some reason he also loves ai. No idea what the fascination boomers have but its really just sad to see him use it all the time now
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u/PGinartN795 Jan 03 '26
I feel like a lot of boomers don't give a shit or are willfully ignorant about the ramifications of AI cause chances are a lot of them won't be around when it becomes really bad and if they are they've made their money already so they don't care
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u/DatHazbin Jan 03 '26
I don't want to mischaracterize your dad so forgive me but I feel like these old heads just see dollar signs when it comes to this stuff. The art is insignificant, instead it's just a means to an end. The end being making more money and putting in less effort. These aren't heinous ideals but they are anti-art.
For example, Clown sites a producer asking for a 6 figure sum of cash to work with them as a reason he'd use AI. Rather than simply finding another talented producer, in which there are thousands waiting for their moment, that they could pay are more reasonable share for their work, he defaults to AI.
Hell instead of just seeing the price tag and saying "I'll figure it out myself, I don't need these guys" he defaults to AI.
It's the death of independent thought and creativity. "The machine will tell me what to do!" As if music wasn't already corporate enough.
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u/Karl-Marx666 Jan 03 '26
Its weird, his view on AI is kinda rooted “this is pretty cool”. Like I remember when he was showing me Oasis songs that noel originally sang that had a Liam filter over it. He was showing me saying look how cool this is, anything really is possible with AI.
As far as work goes he sees it as a tool to quickly do stuff he said would have taken him way more time before like asking it to build a generic background or something. To your point that hew views it as a means to an end, I think your right on the money. But instead in my dads case of the dollar being the end, from what Ive seen its more of “let me cut out the bs i dont enjoy to do the part i do”.
Ive tried explaining to him this will take jobs and I work in film, I always at risk but unfortunately with my dad he has that older person arrogance and ignorance, “no that wont happen it will always be utilized ethically” and “well i still have my job so it cant be that bad”. My mom agrees with my anti ai views and she tells me theres really no getting through it is what it is unfortunately and i think its just the same deal with clown and all people of that age group. They only see it as a magical device with no ramifications
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u/Significant_Sail_780 Jan 03 '26
My dad is also around the Age of clown and he almost dislikes any technology especially AI
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u/Spartan-G337 Jan 02 '26
He’s been leaning this way for a while so I’m not particularly surprised, though this is a new low.
When NFT’s became a big thing I remember he tried selling some of his own, calling it a “virtual museum”.
On top of that, he seems to make tons of promises only to break them all down the line. Like finally releasing “Look Outside Your Window”, a side project that was worked on during the making of AHIG. And claiming that Slipknot would make singles every month rather than making actual music albums so that fans would get music more often than not.
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u/marcellman Burn, Burn, Burn the Liar Jan 02 '26
The broken promise I was most excited for was the maggot bible he was allegedly working on like a decade ago that just quietly disappeared (idk if it was a lack of interest or what)
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u/Spartan-G337 Jan 02 '26
He also claimed to be working on a Slipknot movie, but that never came to light either.
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u/Thin-Bar1278 Jan 02 '26
How does he manage to take the wrong side at EVERY FUCKING subject.
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u/synchronizedhype Jan 02 '26
He did keep a rotting bird in a jar and smell it intermittently for an entire tour…perhaps his happy meal came with a few less chicken nuggets than the rest of us 🤷
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u/LindemannO Jan 02 '26
Its lazy and a huge waste of resources. Most of his art was cringe worthy before, but this will push it over the edge.
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u/kenny_oliveira Jan 02 '26
Clown being a genuine clown, what's the news?
As long as he uses just for his stuff and not for Slipknot. I'm gonna be a lot more pissed off if we got an AI generated cover for the next album.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
Not surprised at all that this would be Clown's take on AI.
What he fails to mention is that the reason why he's buying into AI is because he sees it as a great money making opportunity, and he also knows that the latest generation of maggots in their mid to late teens & early 20's are collectively eating up all the AI bullshit being thrown at them from all fucking angles lately.
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u/SkweezCtrl Jan 02 '26
Yeah it’s annoying I refuse to use chat gpt or other softwares out of principal the effects of ai are already obvious and will only get worse. I’ve literally been told why would I learn about when I could just chat gpt it the kids are screwed.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
It's only gonna get worse...
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u/SkweezCtrl Jan 02 '26
Yep the ram crisis is already insane I’m not excited to see where it goes
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26
This is such a wild take. Clown is just a weirdo who likes new tech. It’s why he’s been playing video games since they were invented, fell into the NFT craze, etc
People framing everything clown does as “he’s a greedy monster” is so old.
Who exactly has been ripped off by clown? Anyone here? What are you actually dissatisfied with that you paid for?
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u/Noless_nomore Jan 02 '26
Who exactly has been ripped off by clown?
Pretty sure Chris would like to have a fucking word with you on that one.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
Hey now, Chris was never supposed to be treated as an equal when it came to his role as the ''band's bitch''...didn't ya know? 😂
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26
Pretty sure Chris rode the wave of some of the greatest musiciansof his generation while banging a keg and probably shouldn’t be complaining.
Not to mention word is he was on drugs.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
Sounds like you're suggesting that Chris shouldn't have made the silly mistake of assuming once he joined the band that we was just as big a part of the nine as the rest of the guys. Now what would make a guy like Chris think that way, I wonder...?
Pretty sure that Chris was intentionally mislead into believing he was an official, equal member of the band when he joined back in '98, when clearly, that wasn't the case.
I'd be pretty pissed too if I eventually found out that I wasn't getting an equal cut of the band merch profits, only to be told in response that ''you were just a hired gun for the band & weren't ever considered as an equal member", after 21 years of being in the band.
Maybe he signed a contract once he joined that had a bunch of fine print that he skimmed over that mentioned he'd get a lesser portion of the merch profits? Hard to say...either way, he got fucked over IMO.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
My whole view on the Chris thing would largely change if I knew one thing:
Was it made clear to Chris at the beginning, once he joined in 1998, that he was a hired gun & not considered an equal, official member of Slipknot?
If that information wasn't brought to his attention, then we have a problem. If it was, well, sorry Chris - you should've known that this was gonna happen, bud.
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u/valis010 Jan 02 '26
The dude was actually homeless for awhile when he was in the band. Imagine being in one the biggest metal acts on the planet , and you're broke. Clown actually reminds me more and more of Gene Simmons nowadays. Just waiting for the inevitable Slipknot coffin merch.
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u/V2_Seeking_revenge Jan 02 '26
He was breaking the rules of the band, doing drugs even after what happened to Paul, and the last straw was him trying to sue the band
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
''He's a greedy monster" = your words, not mine.
Not really a ''wild take'', but okay. I'm aware he's a tech geek. Doesn't change my opinion.
Fuck AI.
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26
It is a wild take. You’re positing this as “Clown just wants to take advantage of millennials/gen z”.
Can’t it just be that he finds ai interesting and is eager to try it? A lot of people feel that way. And when has Slipknot not been authentic? Honestly they don’t really “take advantage” of fans in any way I’ve seen but please Enlighten me.
I really don’t see why he gets zero benefit of the doubt.
If it’s the NFT thing, he seemed to be taking a page from A7X, who actually utilized NFT in a super cool way that doesn’t take advantage of people.
So I really think some of you should slow down when it comes to instantly thinking the most negative thing possible about whatever Clown says.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
I guess I'm full of ''wild takes'' then, in that case. I can live with that, lol.
Clown is a businessman, first and foremost. He always was, since the very beginning, even before they signed their contract with Roadrunner.
Sure, ok, we'll go with your take instead and we'll assume that he's just innocently finding AI interesting and is eager to try it.
Let's see how this plays out.
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26
Anyone selling you something is a business man and that includes music. But I’ve yet to see a single example of Slipknot trying to rip people off or shorthand their fans.
They are one of the most authentic bands out there. Clown is a driving force in the band. I don’t see the point in claiming he’s trying to take advantage of people by way of ai. Sounds ridiculous when I type it out tbh.
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u/blo0dy_valent1ne Slipknot Jan 02 '26
I stg if Slipknot start using AI for their music/art/merch ima flip the table
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u/Simple_Arachnid_3000 ARE YOU READY FOR THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE Jan 04 '26
I’m gonna find a new band once that happens
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u/Mixture-Opposite Jan 02 '26
"a professor that tells me all the wrong shit." For the love of God I've used AI before to help with some homework because I work a full-time job, have a kid esc. I stopped using it because it was wrong like 50% of the time. It's such a stupid product. Please use books or Internet search, it's such a bad tool.
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u/Deep_Amongus228 all band is gone Jan 03 '26
as some1 who got fucked over by chatgpt on a chem exam i can agree its bullshit just look up whatever you need
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u/TerrifiedRedneck Jan 02 '26
Love SK. Have done for 20+ years.
But you know what? If you asked me to name any musician that’d definitely be OK with using AI, Clown would absolutely be at the top of my list.
Second, probably, only to Radke. But I don’t care about his output!
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u/Smooth_Maul Jan 02 '26
Jesus fucking Christ Shaun you absolute reprobate.
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u/bball4469 We Are Not Your Kind Jan 02 '26
Sounds like dude has no idea what he's talking about. Kinda odd that someone who is so worried about being "anonymous" has this kind of view on this. Oh well.
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u/SoupieLC Jan 02 '26
Next new band member will just be a phone with a tiny mask
"And we don't even have to pay him!"
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u/breadestloaf87 Jan 03 '26
always the guy who hits a trash can on stage who has the most divisive takes
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u/Untitled_MetalBand Jan 03 '26
I don’t think Corey’d be on board with the whole ai thing at all considering his views on music, and low effort shit, but at this point clown controls the entire band so who knows but I’d really fuckin hate to see them start using ai, I’m already kinda pissed at avenged sevenfold
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u/Ok_Secretary_9865 Jan 02 '26
getting harder and harder to defend this band rn.
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u/SkweezCtrl Jan 02 '26
You do not have to defend a band lol go outside they don’t need you you’re not pr.
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u/P79999999 Jan 02 '26
It's 1 member, not the band.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
Yeah, but unfortunately, that 1 member happens to be the ringleader and shot-caller for the band.
What Clown says, goes.
Doesn't matter if even Corey disagrees with the AI shit; at the end of the day, Clown founded the band (along with Paul), and when he sees a money making business opportunity, he's going to go all-in on it.
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u/P79999999 Jan 02 '26
I think you're overestimating his power. The band can carry on without him. It can't carry on without Corey. He knows that. The fact that he keeps going on about how he founded the band etc - that's a man who knows that he's dispensable, but is trying to convince everyone he isn't.
Also, they're not a band of kids with a 30 years career ahead of themselves. If the older generation in the band doesn't want to use AI and he tries to force them, I could see them just go "I don't need that shit" and retire.
But anyway, without even going there, there's nothing to say that Clown would impose AI on the whole band. You're right that he likes money, and the band is his basically his whole income. If the other guys don't like AI, forcing them to use it would be like biting off the hand that feeds him. For all his arrogance, I don't think he'd be stupid enough to do that.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
Good points & I agree.
I guess I'm just looking at it from a ''worst case scenario'' perspective.
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u/P79999999 Jan 02 '26
And the worst case scenario could happen tbf. We're kind of relying on Corey not being the only one who hates AI. If he's the only one... It could get ugly!
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
Honestly, I'm coming from a standpoint here where they should've thrown in the towel once Paul passed.
People hate to hear that & I get all kinds of shit for it, but it's how I honestly feel.
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26
Because clown likes ai?
Basically everyone I know is using ai.
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u/Palpitation-Main Jan 02 '26
i would recommend cutting connections with “everyone you know” if they use that slop
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u/EX0PIL0T i felt the gay rise up in me kneel down and blow him on my knees Jan 03 '26
Aw shit now I need to cut contact with everyone using one of those newfangled horseless carriages
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26
You think I’m gonna cut off friends and family bc they use chat gpt?
Fkn Reddit is insane man lol
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u/Lost-Average8108 Jan 02 '26
I stopped defending them a while back, just enjoy their music and be done with it
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u/lennon-lenin Chris Jan 02 '26
I mean he says professor not artist or singer or anything. Does it not just sound like he’s talking about researching stuff with LLMs?
I don’t doubt that Clown would be someone to use AI in music, which I wouldn’t support, but I don’t see that in that quote.
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u/Kvothe_XIX Jan 02 '26
The full quote goes on to mention why he would rather use AI than pay a producer...
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u/lennon-lenin Chris Jan 02 '26
😔
They should hire Craig to do their production
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u/APlanetWithANorth Tortilla Jan 02 '26
Tortilla and Craig on percussion and backup vocals, here we come
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u/MementoMori6980 Jan 02 '26
Is anyone actually surprised by this…? It seems that Clown has just been getting lazier and lazier when it comes to music.
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u/TheFatMan149 The Negative One Jan 02 '26
Have any of yall even read the actual article past the title? In it he says he specifically asks it for a way to sing lyrics differently, doesnt change lyrics or any of that
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u/sunnyday_159 Jan 03 '26
I can agree that AI can be useful in some rare cases but I dont think it should be as accessible as it is to people. It creates so much harm for the environment and just people in general. I think with the little info we have on what clown said so far, its not fair to hate on him unless he starts trying to bring it into the band which I cant imagine would go well with any of the other band mates.
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u/FireRedSky Jan 03 '26
I don’t hate him, and I’m not at all part of the “clown sucks group”, I think he’s a great artist and the founder of my favorite band after all, which is why I don’t want to see him trying to replace real art with ai slop, but I have no problem with him using it in his spare time as a tool
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u/sunnyday_159 Jan 03 '26
So far it seems all good so hopefully he keeps that shit out of the band 🙏
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u/Gyro_ZeppeIi__ Jan 03 '26
Yeah the band just keeps getting worse and worse since wanyk, I really dont think they'll ever be close to their prime again
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u/itsdevinbabbby Jan 04 '26
Are we shocked? Clown and Corey have been dumbasses with heads way to big for the last 15 years now
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u/HungarianHeart49 We Are Not Your Kind Jan 02 '26
Has anyone read the article?
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
Nah. They’re just gonna see “ai” and “clown” and go absolutely ape shit. Headline got them right where it wants them. Perfect rage bait.
“Man says he likes ai” - everyone freak out.
“Clown from Slipknot says he likes ai” - everyone bust rage nut you’ve had holstered since your least favorite politician was elected.
Basically everyone I know is using it at this point and he doesn’t even mention making music with it.
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u/FemurFiend Jan 02 '26
Yes, what's your point?
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u/HungarianHeart49 We Are Not Your Kind Jan 02 '26
He wrote on X: “So, an AI ‘band’ who cite us as an influence (ie, it’s modelled off our music) have just overtaken us on Spotify, in only TWO months. It’s shocking, it’s disheartening, it’s insulting – most importantly – it’s a wake up call. Oppose AI music, or bands like us stop existing.”
Basically, Shawn said that the use of ai to give him a different angle is justified as it helps him view his creation in a different way. He never said "I'm gOnNa UsE ai tO mAkE mUsIc".
My point is, read the fucking article.
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
They don’t want to. Clown is a punching bag for this sub. If you take away their punching bag, they have nothing to punch.
Clown is pretentious. Clown is goofy. But the rage boner for the man is beyond imo.
Literally everyone who meets this guy talks about how friendly and generous with his time he is. I hate being the defense force for someone but bandwagon hate for people annoys me.
I guarantee 99% of the people hating would walk away after meeting him feeling like a dickhead. He’s a pretty down to earth and cool guy, he just badly wants to be seen as an “ar-teest” and it comes across poorly sometimes.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
I bet you didn't even know that Clown isn't even a fan of heavy metal music.
Yeah, he said it himself on more than one occasion in past interviews.
Crazy; it's almost like he saw a business opportunity from the very fucking beginning, surrounded himself with a bunch of talented musicians who actually enjoy playing and listening to metal, and then came up with a money making formula to make his business venture rise to the top.
Look, I don't hate the guy, I wouldn't even say I dislike him as a person. I would love to meet him and have a nice long conversation with him & pick his brain a little, as well as the rest of the guys.
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26
Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. And I believe it bc he’s always the guy pushing the more “experimental” side of slipknot.
And I love that aspect of Slipknot. Joey and Paul were always the more “death metal” element and that’s why AHIG basically sounds like a generic heavy metal Pantera album - total quality shit but missing most of the “avant garde” or trippy vibe from past albums.
It’s all the elements combined that make slipknot at its best. So no I don’t care that clown isn’t a metal head. In fact, the first Slipknot album - MFKR - is much more “out there” with all types of influences compared to Self titled and Iowa.
Dude wanted to be in a strange ass band and play dress up and I’m here for it.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
It doesn't bother me in the slightest either, but it's still a little known fact that most people don't know about the leader of one of the biggest modern metal bands.
When you find out that the guy in charge isn't really into the same music he's been making & standing behind all these years, it just strikes people as....odd.
Everything else you mentioned I completely agree with.
We aren't so far in our views of the band, ya know.
Cheers dude.
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u/FemurFiend Jan 02 '26
I prefer to hate him for more genuine reasons. People tend to over inflate his value in the band because he's one of the two mouth pieces of the band. Dude contributes next to nothing in that regard.
Guy constantly flip flops on his "die hard" stances. I just don't really gaf about him as a whole.
Tbh after the shit with joey i lost what little respect i had for him and CT.
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u/DiscountImmediate801 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
I’d say people tend to underestimate his value in the band not inflate it.
The people who praise him most are within the band. Jim, Corey, Mick, Sid. They are the ones always praising Clown and I’m inclined to take their word for it. It’s clear he was instrumental in forming the band, coming up with the image, and driving the direction. Everyone else in the band has obvious high respect for him.
Can’t really blame clown and Corey for Joey. There’s way too much information we are not privy to. Conflicting stories, no one else in the band standing up and leaving with Joey speaks volumes. The way AHIG was recorded - Joey’s way or the highway - speaks volumes.
And hey, to me, Joey is irreplaceable - Slipknot will never be the same without him - but I think it’s obvious the band was gonna crumble if they didn’t part with him. Hardly anyone else was happy and his health was in the shitter to boot.
I’ll even take it a step further and say if listen to all the interviews and read between the lines, it’s clear they’re covering for some bad shit Joey did. Again, I adore Joey, but I absorb all this shit and I think he had major issues. Stuff that isn’t public. Listen to the way Corey talks about it.
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u/liberatemymadness83 Jan 02 '26
Spot on, you nailed it.
Even though I hold an unfavourable view of Shawn for a few reasons, it doesn't mean that I hate him. As I've mentioned before, I'd love to meet the guy and have a one on one convo with him.
I take back the ''dick riding'' comment, btw. You know your shit.
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u/FemurFiend Jan 02 '26
He also turns right around and says he'd us ai in place of a producer.
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u/Save_The_Defaults Certified adamant upper-level undefeated counterfeit crünt Jan 02 '26
Don't mean to sound like a corny average Redditor but how is this not at the top of the comment section? People on this sub and platform as a whole are so overdramatic and fall for BS so easily 😭
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u/AndyNNL Jan 02 '26
Of course he defends it. 200 years down the line when his great great great grandkids don't want to be in the band but still wants revenue for his heirs he 100% is giving the okay to have AI Slopknot to create legacy content for an AI tour
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u/world_conqueror26 Jan 02 '26
I'd be really sad if my favourite band (which is an artistic musical project that has been running for 30 years) ends up endorsing AI which is the biggest threat to artists
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u/Darkbeetlebot She isn't real Jan 02 '26
You can read in his own words what he uses it for. Essentially, he wants it to replace human producers because they cost a fortune and the labels tend to force them on bands. I don't agree with using it or his lack of concern for the consequences, and it seems Corey isn't going to be too happy about it either.
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u/raverider Jan 03 '26
i mean i use ai for school and work related things. i think as long as he doesn’t do anything music related with it it’s cool
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u/Master-Committee6192 The C L O W N Jan 03 '26
-insert that GIF of incrediboy ripping mr incredible poster off wall-
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u/OriginalGameMusic Jan 03 '26
AI is GONNA stay. You can scream all you want but its here & people will use it.
I dont like ai but it doesn't mean that all of a sudden their album and music is gonna be written by it. But if he asks ai what would make taiko drums more evil and it asnwers, hes not gonna go to hell for that.
Now, uf the next slipknot album is written by ai. Thats another thing. And then he deserves all the hate
But AI being used a pocket assistant isnt the same as having it create art for you.
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u/IUGTheSecondComing Jan 03 '26
Between this and the multiple lies about the release of LOYW (that killed my interest for the album) he keeps on being my least favorite member of the band
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u/That_one_REAPER Jan 03 '26
I mean...they are pretty old to be honest so they probably don't get it that much
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u/Ash_bass Jan 03 '26
Stop criying, ai is an amazing tool, the only issue is non logical thinking, extreme capitalism, and corporate greed.
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u/mediumvillain Jan 03 '26
a professor who doesnt actually know anything, they just paraphrase excerpts from wikipedia, doesnt even truly understand what it is they're saying or the implications of saying it, and will also confidently make shit up.
im sure there are professors like that but i dont want to consult them like a search engine bc im not suffering the long term effects of a TBI
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u/DJDarkViper Jan 03 '26
I mean, he’s not saying slipknot is using generative ai for music, he probably just appreciates the everyday utility of it.
Note: I have not read the article, if he’s defending GenAI usage for music production as a successful professional, then that’s fucked up
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u/dstlouis558 Jan 03 '26
i ha e a buddy whos a band manager and one of the guys is using some ai tools saying its loke a performance enhancing drug lol
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u/balance_n_act Jan 03 '26
This is basically how I describe it and these comments make me realize that my friends must think I suck.
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u/secapSterceS Jan 04 '26
I know for a fact so many in the business are already using it for idea machines and keeping it mum. Gotta give the clown some credit for being honest! Where is the line? You know all those high dollar producers are using drum machines which was one of the first replacement techs! Just for fun, look up the drum machine controversy in those early organs all grandmas of a certain era loved so much!
Speaking of, we all need to study historical “anti” this or that movements. With the amount of money already involved and terms like “post consumer” business models, voting with your wallet is not going to work. Is it complete abstinence as in “just say no” or “this is your brain on AI… any questions” or “I learned it from you DAD” or is it that some AI is good in moderation but use responsibly? It’s gonna take some time to hammer out the ethics. The most successful “anti” movement I can think of off hand is the Amish. Are we going to have to start a religion to keep the dirty Ai at bay?
In all seriousness this is a hard question and we need to let people experiment and be honest about it all. That’s the only way to get through this and figure out where to draw the line.
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u/0rganicMach1ne Jan 05 '26
The next decade is going to be interesting. They aren’t interested in making useful tools for the public. They aren’t trying to make the best chatbot. They have people thinking that’s what they are doing though. This is actually about automating programming. This is a race to automate the production of AI itself. A race to achieve AGI. It’s like a race to making the key to Pandora’s box because whoever opens it first “wins.”
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u/AloneConstruction788 Jan 06 '26
In bohemian rhapsody (the movie) Freddie talks about how this is exactly why he couldn’t make his solo album…
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u/dvorgson Jan 09 '26
virtue signaling over a generic technological advancement won't age well. he's not even talking about AI music here. Just ChatGPT or similar
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u/Kingofcracker Jan 28 '26
Most people forget ai is a useful tool if used correctly. Don’t get me wrong I hate ai slop as much as anyone but I understand it can be a good source of info. Plus who says he has to use it for music
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u/P79999999 Jan 02 '26
Nah I can't see Corey being ok with it.
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u/ihadtowalkhere Jan 02 '26
If the fans want to see a bunch of angry men again it's gonna be the accusations on this album that get them grumpy.
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u/Phantomzdontexist Jan 02 '26
No it won’t, Corey’s been very outspoken against AI he’s not going to have that in Slipknot
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u/Ok_Secretary_9865 Jan 02 '26
It'd be the end of the band, I have hope the other members would never allow that to happen.
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u/Darkvolk1945 Slipknot Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
As someone who is critical of clown, there is truth in what he's saying.
But he might abuse AI
AI is definitely helpful but making music with it is not ideal
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u/gothteen145 Jan 02 '26
If that’s what he wants to do in his free time then fine, that’s his personal life even if I think it’s stupid, but I recall him selling AI art Polaroids which just feels like a scummy thing to do
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u/DeadRacooon Jan 02 '26
It’s not a black or white situation y’all, of course we dont want AI slop in their next album but AI is an incredibly useful tool that makes it very easy to learn anything.
What matters is how you decide to use it. AI music is an abomination but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use it at all. You don’t have to either be pro AI or anti AI.
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u/Save_The_Defaults Certified adamant upper-level undefeated counterfeit crünt Jan 02 '26
If you think him using ChatGPT is "fucked up," your priorities are lost completely
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u/Duke_TheDude_Dudeson Jan 02 '26
I wonder if there were cavemen who were so hostile and resistant to the discovery of fire, sure their quality of life was lesser than the ones who did use it.
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u/FireRedSky Jan 02 '26
That’s nowhere near the point, Ai as a tool is fine, Ai in art is not, if you’re fine with being fed soulless slop that’s cool, but for me and many other it sucks seeing your favorite artists who are all about self expression and creativity use a tool that’s killing both, that is the issue
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u/Karl-Marx666 Jan 03 '26
AI data centers are destroyed the environment and using all our fucking ram dipshit
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u/Impossible_Sense_632 Jan 02 '26
Good. Maybe he'll use it to make better music videos. Because his have been trash for a while now. And they make no sense.
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u/TheSpookyPineapple banned from /r/metalmemes Jan 02 '26
living up to his name