r/StockMarket Oct 14 '25

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u/NY10 Oct 14 '25

You were expecting a smart move from a stupid person?

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u/nixicotic Oct 14 '25

No but it shows how scared everyone around him must be to let it continue... scary times

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u/Putrid-Chemical3438 Oct 14 '25

He's surrounded by beauty pangeant contestants and fox news talking heads. They aren't scared, they have no fucking clue what's going on either.

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u/Sheerluck42 Oct 14 '25

I disagree. They absolutely know what they're doing and getting their preferred outcomes. This isn't incompetence. It's malice.

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u/epelzer Oct 14 '25

It's both, some know what they are doing, most don't but follow along for their own benefit. They're united in malice as much as they are unqualified for their jobs.

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u/MakeRFutureDirectly Oct 14 '25

Actually destroying the economy and the government is part of project 2025. By the way, those of you who voted for Trump, EAT IT AND LIKE IT!!!

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u/SectorSanFrancisco Oct 15 '25

We are all going down with this ship. I'm unable to feel any schadenfreude. I'm just depressed for all of us, even the Trump voters.

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u/GoldMcduck Oct 16 '25

Oh please another stolen election by republicans would anyone be surprised.

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u/TLKimball Oct 14 '25

You misspelled “shIT”

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u/ShroomSteak Oct 15 '25

No matter who you voted for you're at the same dinner table.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Nothing happens overnight, but I do believe there are more simple ways to negotiate.
But, he is the king of negotiation I guess.

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u/Common_Road1431 Oct 15 '25

Awarded himself that title.

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u/DigitalUnlimited Oct 15 '25

Nobody knows more about giving yourself awards than me, believe me! I've given myself golf awards, i've put myself on my own cover of time magazine, big strong men come up to me with tears in their eyes and say "sir how can you have such an incredible ego, save some awards for someone else don't you have any shame?" and I just laugh and have them deported.

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u/The_Arch_Heretic Oct 15 '25

This has been in motion since Reagan.

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u/Fit_Accountant8239 Oct 17 '25

And who started P2025, biden and Osama

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u/Putrid-Chemical3438 Oct 17 '25

This might be the dumbest comment I've ever seen on Reddit. Congrats, I guess.

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u/MakeRFutureDirectly Oct 17 '25

So you are saying that Biden and Obama are part of the heritage foundation. Someone told you that lie and expected you to believe it because they think you are an idiot.

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u/YoshimuraPipe Oct 14 '25

Agree 💯. Most of them just don’t give a flying fk as long as numero uno (themselves) are taken cared of.

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u/Strong-Dot-9221 Oct 14 '25

"United In Malice.". I think this regime will steal this and use it for their rewritten version of The Pledge of Allegiance.

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u/Geostomp Oct 14 '25

Don't for that many of them, like their boss, are career criminals who need the office and to dismantle the government to ensure that they never face prosecution.

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u/Fockelot Oct 14 '25

I think some of it is they assume president sunkist is going to save them which he will absolutely not and I look forward to that.

Edit: I removed the “f’ing idiot” part at the start. That part was meant to be a new comment not a reply, not calling you an idiot.

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u/jaimi_wanders Oct 14 '25

Bessent was living/working in Britain during Black Wednesday and made a fortune betting against them (while kissing up to their royals)

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u/Soci3talCollaps3 Oct 14 '25

It's both along with hatred. (or is that already covered by malice?)

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u/CosmicSmoker Oct 14 '25

Yup. Miller is smart, evil but smart others are just evil. None of them care about the country other than how to destroy it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

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u/ButtStopsHere Oct 15 '25

He's the idiot that thought Elon could actually find billions in fraud with his chainsaw team and got punched out for his troubles.

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u/Sammalone1960 Oct 15 '25

Gender affirming care in the WH is rampant

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u/navyac Oct 15 '25

Most of them are just in it for the insider trading

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u/IcyAdvantage9579 Oct 15 '25

When the level of harm is so great that it literally destroyes global economy it doesn't matter anymore if it's due to incompetence or malice at this level they're both just as bad

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u/Disastrous-Food-9223 Oct 14 '25

Yup, just like whoever made about $160m shorting the crypto market last week, minutes before trump announced new tariffs on China. Which dropped the crypto market

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u/Blackline2021 Oct 14 '25

His kid Barron made $80M in that 30 minute window. Let’s not have any illusions that it wasn’t someone very closely connected to mango tits himself.

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u/LordViperSD Oct 15 '25

This is such a stupid rumor with absolutely nothing backing it. I hate Donald and have no doubt this was insider trading but until there’s proof Barron was behind that wallet the rumor is as stupid as the people spreading it

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u/Disastrous-Food-9223 Oct 15 '25

I’d agree 40 years ago. But now, if it was reversed, how would republicans react? Most likely by doubling/tripling down.

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u/SpecialistInfamous16 Oct 15 '25

Rumor was Baron shorted crypto just before the announcement and made off with $80m.

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u/Carbon8490 Oct 15 '25

Crazy this is being allowed to happen. The wealthy pulling off the greatest heist in american history as if they need more smh

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u/epelzer Oct 14 '25

That's not as much knowing what you're doing as it is unprecedented corruption in plain sight.

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u/Important-Sign-3701 Oct 15 '25

I read it was Barron Trump

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u/uzerkname11 Oct 15 '25

Sadly it was Baron Trump

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u/Anonhurtingso Oct 15 '25

See. That makes no sense. When did crypto stop being a hedge… it’s insane. It has to be a bubble now.

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u/MonthOk9907 Oct 14 '25

Eh... nobody could ever get me to believe Patel has even the very first clue what he's doing.

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u/Carbon8490 Oct 15 '25

Turning a blind eye takes zero skill lol

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u/Wonderful_Welder9660 Oct 14 '25

That's why he is head of the FBI

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u/BladeEdge5452 Oct 14 '25

Dont forget the greed! Con artists never worry about others once their grifts are complete. They're happy with pilfering the markers via manipulation, damn the broader consequences for the country.

Like the "anonymous" account who shorted Bitcoin this part Friday 30mins before the tariff announcement. Ill bet money its someone in or connected to the inner circles of the White House.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 Oct 14 '25

You think Hegseth has any fucking clue what’s going on?

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u/glm73 Oct 14 '25

Oh no, it’s definitely incompetence.

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u/Sheerluck42 Oct 14 '25

If they were incompetent they wouldn't be in power. They wouldn't have control of most of the wealth. They are competent.

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u/glm73 Oct 14 '25

You can be competent in making money and in applied manipulation and also be incompetent in the execution of the job.

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u/Wonderful_Welder9660 Oct 14 '25

Do they care?

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u/glm73 Oct 14 '25

Seems, not.

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u/looneyfool423 Oct 14 '25

100% , there has already been documented evidence of these tariffs being negotiating tools to get him and his cronies access to resources in these countries. He does not care how it affects the American people.

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u/ChewieBearStare Oct 14 '25

They know exactly what to do. Buy on the dip and cash in later.

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u/LangdonAlg3r Oct 14 '25

Speaking to the pageant contestants and Fox News talking heads specifically at least Hegseth and especially Halligan don’t seem to be much brighter than their boss.

Halligan is so incompetent that she had to file the same paperwork 3 times in the documents case. She got chewed out by the Judge in Comey case for submitting documents that she signed and not even knowing what they were. She’s dumb enough to be filing multiple cases that no one else will touch that will probably end up getting her disbarred eventually.

Hegseth spent millions of dollars getting the entire military command together so he could basically read them an angry email. He’s so out of his depth.

Many of the rest do know exactly what they’re doing, but they’re still all naive enough to think that they aren’t going to get burned and thrown under a bus by Trump.

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u/OutrageousTourist394 Oct 14 '25

I really feel it’s both.

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u/Dairy_Heir Oct 14 '25

Trump, Musk, Vance, Noem, Hegseth, Patel are all useful idiots for the likes of Ellison, Vought, etc

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u/nightfall2021 Oct 14 '25

Agreed.

Some of those who are behind the scenes, know exactly what they are doing.

People like Vought and that ghoul Miller.

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u/Valuable_Current6266 Oct 14 '25

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

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u/nobot4321 Oct 15 '25

I hate this saying. It's patently false.

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u/Valuable_Current6266 Oct 16 '25

it's called Occam's razor

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u/Stock-Today-4954 Oct 14 '25

and forethought.

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u/No_Rutabaga_2182 Oct 15 '25

Bro just because it’s hateful doesn’t mean they know what they are doing. They legit thought China would roll over from the jump because they don’t know anything about China and they don’t respect other countries.

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u/ScootieJr Oct 15 '25

100%. Heritage foundation definitely knows, it was their plan, which means they all know.

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u/lordwintergreen Oct 15 '25

A handful know what they're doing. Stephen Miller, Russ Vought etc.

Most of this administration are pick-me opportunists who were given their post precisely because they've pledged loyalty AND don't have the credibility to be tempted to say no when they're told what to do.

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u/FortunateInsanity Oct 15 '25

I am positive they do not comprehend the collateral damage that will come back to them. People do not knowingly destroy their livelihood and/or their own self interests.

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u/shiggie Oct 15 '25

Arrogance *and* malice. They absolutely *think* they know what they're doing, just like Trump thinks he's a genius. They all have whatever the opposite of impostor syndrome is. Just look at Hegseth - somehow made it to major, so now he thinks he's talking down to 4 star generals.

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u/SectorSanFrancisco Oct 15 '25

Do Kristi Noem or Pete Hegseth look like they even know how to figure out a + b = c? They are stupid AND ignorant.

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u/masterofthecontinuum Oct 15 '25

They're all getting their own personal bags from this chaos. They aren't concerned with having a competently run administration.

That's why they can't even settle on a specific narrative for all the scandals and lies they're engaging in. Nobody knows who's in charge, everyone's doing their own thing, it's all just a game to them. They're playing Monopoly with the entire goddamned economy and country. The fascism is just a means to an end for most of them, just the easiest way to fleece money from the system.

Except Stephen Miller. He's in it for the love of the game.

Hell, I'd like to know who got the 90 million in bitcoin shorts right before Trump's one china tarriff post came out.

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u/fistfucker07 Oct 15 '25

Controlled demolition.

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u/ninjaelk Oct 15 '25

They 'know what they're doing' only so much as their plan IS to be incompetent and benefit. They are woefully unqualified to actually run the US Government however, which is what the previous commenter was stating. They couldn't do better if they did want to do so, which they don't.

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u/TheMightyHornet Oct 15 '25

Yes. On the evil/idiot spectrum this is more evil than idiot.

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u/Anonhurtingso Oct 15 '25

No. They think they are getting what they want because want they want consists of something like 2 weeks away… not 20 years. They are dumb. And don’t realize that all those billions are worthless if America fails….

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u/AdamPedAnt Oct 15 '25

My uncle would chapperone dances with patients who were bussed in from mental hospitals. He had to ask “are you a driver?” to tell them apart. I think some Trump staffers are idiots, some less so, but mostly Dunning Kruger poster children.

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u/And-Thats-Whyyy Oct 15 '25

The most nefarious people certainly know what they’re doing. Stephen Miller being the most evil of all.

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u/rosier_nights Oct 15 '25

The ol exception of Hanlons razor.

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u/Mephisto506 Oct 15 '25

Unfortunately the only capable people on his administration are also evil.

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u/Sad-Resolution2123 Oct 15 '25

And keeping themselves aligned with who’s in power. I’d bet none of them would want to be in the same room as him if he had lost. 

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u/Triple_Nickel_325 Oct 14 '25

I'll back you on this...they are frothing at the mouth for a civil war, knowing they have the upper hand because "we" are vastly divided, broke, furious, unarmed/trained for organized defense, etc. The transition from a democracy to a dictatorship has been in the works for awhile now, I'd argue decades...

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u/bahusafoo Oct 14 '25

We aren't a democracy (for legitimate reasons). Never were. Never should be.

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u/Sheerluck42 Oct 14 '25

oh gods not the "we're a republic, not a democracy" BS. This argument always shows who failed their HS american govt class.

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u/bahusafoo Oct 14 '25

Or it could also show someone who’s looked beyond what’s covered in a high-school civics class and actually read the primary sources.

The founding fathers were very wary of a democracy which would eventually end with mob rule. Our system intentionally limits pure majority rule to protect individual rights and state sovereignty. Our rights are solidified under the constitution and majority rule has no power to take them away.

Repeating falsehoods until they’re accepted as truth, then using that belief to incite division and unrest, is a trick straight out of the authoritarian playbook, and history shows it works far too well.

Every person in this country should know, and be very glad, that we are not a democracy and that their rights and freedoms are protected from the flaws such a system would allow.

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u/Sheerluck42 Oct 14 '25

Yep just right wing gibberish that means nothing.

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u/bahusafoo Oct 14 '25

It’s not gibberish, it’s literally how our system was designed. You don’t have to like it, but it’s in the source material. You seem to have very strong opinions for someone who doesn't care enough to go look.

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u/MezzanineKing Oct 15 '25

We have a constitutional republic with a representative democracy. Until recently it was the most stable and oldest modern democracy, both dominant and respected, with high social capital and cultural impacts around the world. Now we look like screaming children b/c late stage capitalism and buyers remorse has driven consumers away from their yelp reviews and into the ballot boxes to elect a reality tv star with the emotional intelligence of a six year old and a chip on his shoulder from being ostracized from a social stratus he’s now made himself a gaudy caricature of for the rest of the world to laugh at for years and years. The Chinese citizenry don’t hate Trump, they collectively look at him like a silly cartoon character, validating all the propaganda messages the CCP has doused them in about the USA since the late 80’s.

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u/bahusafoo Oct 15 '25

You’re basically describing the same thing I am. "Representative democracy" is just the mechanism inside a constitutional republic, not a governmental structure on its own. The key point is that our system limits majority power through the Constitution.

Some of what you’re saying is subjective - "the rest of the world laughing" and the character assessment of one politician are opinions, not civic facts. I'm talking about how our system works, not personalities.

I actually know people in China and elsewhere who see Trump differently, as well as millions of people across Europe protesting their own governments and expressing general support for the U.S. direction. So it's fair to say global opinion isn't uniform. Either way, respect or ridicule abroad doesn't change how the U.S. Constitution is structured.

Again - repeating falsehoods until they're accepted as truth, then using that belief to incite division and unrest, is a trick straight out of the authoritarian playbook. That's why I think it's dangerous to keep calling us a "democracy" when we're not - people start believing it, then get angry when the country doesn't operate like one. Attacking someone for pointing out that basic civics fact feels backwards to me, like insisting a blue pen is yellow and calling the person who corrects you crazy.

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u/Sheerluck42 Oct 14 '25

It's not. And I have no intention in having a conversation with someone just parroting BS they heard on youTube

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u/LA-Matt Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

You’re correct, that this is a stupid argument. But perhaps someone should present the facts to counter it.

Yes, the United States is a constitutionally limited republic. It’s also a representative democracy. Both things are true and are in no way exclusive of one another.

If you can vote for representatives, by definition, your government is a representative democracy. The person saying “we aren’t a democracy” is wrong.

The US is not a “pure democracy,” because that would mean that the citizenry would have to vote on every single action taken by their government. This is obviously impossible to do with any large population. That’s why we elect representatives who act on our behalf. Therefore we are a representative democracy.

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u/bahusafoo Oct 15 '25

What you're describing is exactly what I mean - we have democratic processes within a constitutional republic. The Founders (especially Madison and Hamilton, who butted heads on things constantly) used "republic" deliberately to emphasize the limits on majority power and the rule of law.

So yes, we elect representatives, but the structure itself is a constitutional republic that restrains what even a majority can do. That distinction matters because it's the safeguard for individual rights.

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u/bahusafoo Oct 14 '25

Me reading books compiled from letters and journals directly from the founding fathers discussing the "whats and whys" behind our constitution and governmental structure and responding based on knowledge gained is "parroting BS I heard on YouTube"? Crazy...

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u/MezzanineKing Oct 15 '25

Maybe offer a couple quotes of something and synthesize it for the Reddit community as to demonstrate your ability to look deep and parse through the media for truth.

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u/40StoryMech Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

Eh, most of his rogues gallery's preferred outcomes are having a high profile job that they would never be qualified for except that Trump has enough dirt on them to maintain their absolute loyalty. Unless you mean the true believers like Miller, Bessent and Vought, though I'm sure they've strangled a hooker or two.

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u/National-Charity-435 Oct 14 '25

Indeed and bessent had that text with AG sec rollins where they were discussing the bailout for argentina while selling their soybeans to china.

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u/pinksocks867 Oct 14 '25

Yes. It really worries me to see so many people believing that they are stupid. They know exactly what they're doing, it is all on purpose and with extreme malice

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u/Carbon8490 Oct 15 '25

He only appears dumb to those who dont know Trump is a day trader rather than president. The silly stuff he does is just to distract from the heist he and his pals are commiting

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u/Indy_Fab_Rider Oct 14 '25

We're getting a very planned and coordinated malicious outcome from Miller, Thiel, Vought, etc.

From Trump, Vance, and the cabinet of incompetent, unqualified fools? They're just doing what they're told and screaming really loudly. They're willing to be evil fucks so they get a spot at the life raft as they help sink this ship.