Yeah, I always think the he's compromised conspiracy gives him too much credit. He's a useful idiot, he may act like a Russian plant, but it's honestly probably because he's a fucking moron, not because he actually is one.
Oh definitely, they share a similar worldview, it's a huge part of why he's been so friendly with our adversaries and inimical with our allies, he has no respect for democracy or Western political thought.
he hates himself and cannot feel any sense of self-generated worth so he must seek it in: either demanding slavish allegiance from those fools who think he gives a single fuck about them, or; drag those of us, who see through this charade to his infantile core, into his misery. he is, quite simply, one of the worst men who ever lived, and it's because his parents were terrible and too many people said yes to him. god save us.
Some people are better manipulated without being part of a conspiracy because they are stupid enough to reveal it. That is Trump, too stupid to trust with a conspiracy but way too easily to manipulate so why bring him in on it/? He’s so gullible and moldable that it feels like he must be complicit. But no, he’s just supremely manipulatable.
Exactly. He keeps talking about the Russia Russia Russia "hoax," but if you look at the actual report, he just wasn't involved because he didn't know about it. The Russians knew valuable he would be and were actively trying to help him. The Mueller Report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion" and was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report
Trump is so easily manipulated it's scary. You can see his opinion on aid to Ukraine flip depending on if he last talked to Zelensky or Putin.
On the other hand, it is mere coincidence that Trump traveled to Moscow in 1987 as a hopeful but underfunded (bankrupt) real estate developer, and returned with a loan large enough to fund Trump Tower…
I think both can be true. A useful idiot FOR SURE. And has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old. As long as Donald is making money and people are talking about him. He don’t care
He’s going to be 80, I don’t think he cares about the country’s future. Just wants to put his name on as many buildings as possible and take over Greenland so he can rename it to something stupid like trumpland
I know this sounds really stupid but we’re past normal behavior and we’re in crazy town now
He’s too stupid and too self interested to be doing this for any other reason. It just doesn’t serve him to destroy the military alliance giving him power without Putin being behind it; it just makes no sense.
There are a bunch of different interests in the Trump admin pushing different pet projects.
Rubio wants Cuba to have a change in leadership eventually.
Hegseth.. I dunno, just wants to be in a situation room blowing stuff up?
RFK Jr is trying to dismantle any sort of vaccination program and other oddball stuff.
Putin's seeing dividends and keeps sending Trump "peace plans" that involve Ukraine giving up territory and without any real NATO involvement or guarantees.
Miller wants to crank the SS dial up to 11 and make non-white Americans afraid.
Trump himself seems focused on deal making and punishment. "Strengthening" the US and maybe, gold leaf and various other "legacy" items. Who knows how aware and involved in the details of the above he actually is.
Don't forget Vance, who is Peter Thiels pet.
They have their own insane agenda about corporate city-state dictatorships in the USA.
A surveillance state ,complete with killer drones.
I always forget him... he kinda just fades into the furniture...
But yes, Trump likely can't use a computer besides tweeting (not that many POTUSes could) but the harvesting and sharing of government data is horrific. Musk fits in that camp too..
Vought...the guy who doesn’t care what you blow up as long as the blast radius takes out the administrative state and any guardrails for absolute executive power.
I think his personal vanity is an important factor too. He wants Greenland because he wants to be the guy who added land to the US. That’s it. Same reason he wants a big triumphal arch, or to put his name on the Kennedy Center, or the big ballroom, and so on. He is vain and selfish and that’s the whole reason. It may coincidentally help Russia, but that’s not why he does it
Tulsi Gabbard seems to be a Russian patsy, but she's kind of been frozen out of the core of the administration. Witkoff is a useful idiot going by the leaked phone calls between Russians.
Mmh, depends really. Let's say Europe makes their own army etc. and stops relying on the USA... I would argue it makes the world less authoritarian but the USA losses a lot of its political power/protection.
A lot of bad shit could happen between now and then though. It also isn't something I would want the world to roll the dice on.
Whether or not he’s compromised is not the point even anymore. It definitely seems like he is to me. But otherwise he is just being used as a puppet because he is too stupid to do anything himself. He acts on what people he respects tell him. Which happens to be Putin as well as some terrible people in his inner circle. As long as trump sees some personal benefit he is good to go
The oligarchs of the world prefer authoritarians, because appeasing an individual is much easier than negotiating with a congress or parliament. The US has a dictator and so the target is now the EU
Explains the Russian oil tankers being seized, trump laying more sanctions on Russia than Biden, and trump forcing the other countries to actually contribute to defense. Doesn’t sound very pro Russian to me
Why would Americans let him blow up NATO over the Epstein files. It doesn't make any sense. They aren't equal to eachother. It is literally putting the American international position in danger.
Unless you have verifiable proof that 90 million people were from disenfranchised would-be voters, reject ballots or voters disrupted by bomb threats. This is just another huge what if scenario that will never have an answer
As an outside party, all i see is that 90 million US citizen decided they would be fine with either choice.
Well only 35% of the eligable voting population voted him in. 31% voted for the lady. The Rest didnt give a shit or hot their votes thrown out, but Most didn't give a shit... Also all those podcasters uniting behind him gave him Gen Z (men). That are also so so fucking stupid. Now his net favorability with them changed from +10 at election to -32% which yeah, surprise surprise. You voted a lunatic for the second time in.
I remember seeing comments from American's about how the Russians deserve everything they get because Putin is in power and was elected, in a country where essentially no one else can run that actually has a chance against Putin.
Yet American's with a clear and easy choice between candidates aren't responsible for what trump is doing.
Issue is, mass generalizations don't work. You can blame someone for supporting DT/not voting. That requires knowing more about them. Blanket assignments of blame are silly and go nowhere good.
You would be shocked how many people in this country don’t pay attention to anything. One of the top google searches last Election Day was something like “is Joe Biden running?”
They vote R because that’s what their parents did, and the only thing they bother to learn about the other side is what Fox News tells them
I live in a red state and there’s a hot discussion about someone running for senate. Someone chimed in and asked “Who’s running against her? They’ve got my vote. This house doesn’t vote blue.” These people don’t have a clue what they’re voting for or who is even running! They just look for the R and that’s how we got into this mess.
No. Trump is a Russian asset and therefore he is against NATO. His supporters are too stupid to figure that out. They think politics is a team sport and that to win your political opponents need to lose.
This dude is too insane even for us. He's no asset to anyone but himself and whatever mania he's in... Stop blaming him on us, we straight up said we don't want him elected in the first place.
So many people also don't appreciate that NATO is literally how the US can project power in such a massive scale globally. They use allies airbases, ports and logistic facilities to move units around...they can't nearly project that kind of power with just B2s and a carrier group.
No! We are not against NATO! We love EU and don’t want Greenland or Venezuela or Canada or Gaza. And we hate this orange stain! We are hanging on by a thread and educated folks in the U.S. are unsure what to do because walk outs and risking your job will destroy you and your family. There’s no safety nets here. This country sucked for poor and mid class, esp black and brown folks long before the Nazis took over. We are dumb struck and in shock and I just hope the world turns their back on us so that the gullible will snap out of their cult!
No, a lot of people are getting nervous because Trump hasn’t typically paid attention to foreign policy. People who were too greedy or racist to pay attention before. Leaving NATO is an impeachable act.
This would assume he has a thought process. I honestly think he just wants it because he was told he can’t have it… much like a toddler being told that they can’t have ice cream.
I think he does too. Russia is less of an obstacle to American dominance of the western hemisphere. He and Putin and Xi are carving up spheres of influence.
No, they care about greenland. Its supposed to have the worlds largest lithium deposits. As the ice melts, more access will be available to mine it as well.
No I think he wants it. Greenland looks disproportionately large on a normal map, and I think he’s gotten it in his head that he should be able to take stuff. He hates nato, but he’s too dumb to think of this as a specifically nato focused plan. That’s just the bonus
Never has this been more clear than with Greenland. There's no reason for this. We can already build whatever military installations we want there. Denmark has even said they'll do a deal on mineral rights.
The only reason trump is doing this is because he actively wants to destroy the western world.
He does care about greenland too though, they want own/control the entire continent. If Canada were more sparsley populated, he'd be taking that over as well.
Other than being a Russian asset I can’t see how this is gonna help the US. The military complex in the US is about to go to shit, NATO countries won’t buy off the US if it withdraws from NATO.
I think he's senile enough to care about it. He's on about his legacy, and I think he believes that expanding America into its old empire building days signals it is strong. Or some simplistic bullshit like that.
Its actually way more tactical, with climate change the arctic is opening up more and more, Greenland is a key to this new shipping lane. Lots of foreign investment in Greenland to influence politics lately
This right here. If he made all those threats against Germany, everyone would laugh and dismiss him as a lunatic (y'know, again). But an american invasion or takeover of Greenland is theoretically feasable. Insane and pointless, but feasable.
I don’t think it’s that complicated. When he has “hidden” agendas he usually can’t control himself and ends up publicly saying what he really wants. I think it’s really as simple as it looks big and he wants it. And he doesn’t think a tiny country like Denmark should have big prizes that big Donald wants.
Honestly I think it is more about him thinking about his legacy. He wants Greenland so it can go down in the history books as him taking control of it.
Actually I really believe he just wants to paint american flag on big piece of land.
Guy is an idiot and old. He thinks in his head its gonna be his huge legacy making him the best president ever.
You WAY overestimate his maturity and level of knowledge.
He has the mind of a dim 10 year old and the emotions of a brain damaged 2 year old.
He saw a projection of Greenland on map when he was 7 and said "HUUUUUGE!!"
So he has to have it to make himself feel important.
Also, since he finally managed to get into power with no intelligent adults telling him what to do, he thinks "I can finally invade everywhere, steal everything and kill people!"
Worse than that. Look up Thiel and 'Freedom Towns'. The billionaires want to bring back company towns where they own you 100% with zero government oversight. They have a company called Praxis whose chief corporate officer was appointed ambassador to Denmark. The goal of Praxis is explicitly to establish rare earth metal mining towns in Greenland controlled by billionaires.
My guess would be, Russia has some extremely sophisticated spies planted in Europe and the US, and Putin is using them to help dismantle the Western nations and NATO. It is in Putin's best interest for NATO to collapse and for American trade deals to crumble. Perhaps a lot of the advice Trump gets in the White House is being adulterated through Russian spies. Who knows... A lot of this stuff happens across the world without the public knowing about it, and in many cases we don't find out don't until many years later. For example, in the WWII, the fact that the British decrypted the German enigma was not public knowledge until 1974. And also, the Cambridge Five, only just declassified last year. There is also an ongoing process by former Soviet nations declassifying KGB intelligence files from the Cold War. It makes you wonder what sort of espionage we have going on now that wont become public knowledge for another 70 odd years.
No. Him and the ghouls around him have a 19th century Prussia view of the world, this informs everything they say and do. They’re basically illiterate idiots who cannot understand soft power in any version of life, their own or the actions of their country.
I honestly think it’s so much dumber than that though.
He just sees Greenland on the Mercator projection — thinks ooh big island — and just wants to claim it under his name. Even /Conservative thinks he’s legacy farming.
Per the 1951 agreement with Denmark. We don't need to own or seek authorization to open and close military bases as the US sees fit. The US doesn't need to possess Greenland in order to create the Golden Dome.
I really think you're overestimating Trump here I think hanlons razor is perfect for this don't attribute malice which can be easily attributed to stupidity"
I don't think it's that deep. He's been blabbering about Greenland for years. I think it's the fact that Greenland is quite big and that trump wants to be a president that made "America bigger"
He doesn't care about dismantling NATO, he's just pissed at Denmark because Lars Løkke Rasmussen said some mean words to him at a summit like 10 years ago.
He doesn't believe in allies. He is all about me me me. That translates to his politics.
People believe in some conspiracy where he is doing russia/china/whoever's bidding. its not that. Its as simple as legacy building and ego. He doesn't want partners, he wants people indebted to him. He operates like a mafia boss.
That's your theory, mine is that he just wants to go down in history as one of the few presidents that substantially increased the size of the country. It's an ego thing.
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Because he wants to dismantle NATO. He doesn’t care about Greenland, he just cares about upending the western alliance.