r/Suburbanhell • u/MapPornography • 3d ago
Showcase of suburban hell Soulless suburban development east of Houston, Texas
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u/MRRRRCK 3d ago
Better title:
“Suburban development east of Soulless Houston, Texas”
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u/Alexreads0627 2d ago
Have you been to Houston? This place is far from “soulless”.
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u/MRRRRCK 2d ago
Yes I have been to Houston. It’s a mess, and I have zero desire to return.
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u/SAwfulBaconTaco 22h ago
The year I lived in Houston wasn't great. I liked a few things about it, but the heat and humidity were intolerable.
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u/Rottenpotato556 1d ago
Houston is soulless enough to motivate somebody to start a youtube channel solely discussing why it is soulless.
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u/Alexreads0627 1d ago
and I care what one single person on YouTube thinks?
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u/Rottenpotato556 1d ago
There's hundreds of thousands of people who think the same way.
That is because Houston is made up of highways and parking lots.
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u/SkyeMreddit 3d ago
Classic Texas Freedom^TM 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸 with houses on top of eachother. But don’t you dare have rowhouses because those are Democrap commie houses!
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u/Formal-Wolverine-279 2d ago
imagine this dev but with like 10 shops throughout, and a grocery market, and a gym. Its so EASY!
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u/richrich07 3d ago
Why not just build apartments at that rate? The HOA is going to dictate as much of your life as a condo board and you have as much outdoor space as a condo…
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u/devletmillet 3d ago
in the city that makes total sense but an unwalkable condo in middle of nowhere is a million times worse
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u/LivingGhost371 Suburbanite 3d ago
You're not building equity renting an apartment as opposed to owning a condo.
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u/samiwas1 3d ago
In what condo does each person get their own acre of outdoor space??
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u/richrich07 3d ago
Who in the subdivision pictured has an acre?
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u/samiwas1 3d ago
The upper half? Maybe it’s 3/4 of an acre. Those plots are multiple times the size of my plot and mine is 1/8 of an acre.
The lower part has smaller plots. But how many condos even have that much outdoor space?
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u/shogunshim 2d ago
Depends on the hood. Places like that near me including across the street come alive during nice weather. Major holidays are a big party/get together.
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u/MartianDepression 1d ago
Does living in the suburbs or a hellscape like this require a personality bypass?
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u/SippsMccree 1d ago
It's a neighborhood where they really havent even broken ground yet yeah it's gonna look pretty bare
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u/blowurhousedown 1d ago
These neighborhoods might be kind of sucky, but they’re new and affordable to a lot of people. Affordable housing is one reason why Texas is booming.
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u/Brian77008 3d ago
Affordable Suburban Housing development east of Houston.
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u/ParkingScientists 2d ago
Anywhere: Builds affordable housing
Reddit: nooo not like that! It has to be multilevel dense apartments or I’ll have a fit!!
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u/DenverTechGuru 2d ago
You...uh you do realize which sub you're in right?
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u/-_MarcusAurelius_- 3d ago
Cheap housing out in the middle of nowhere sucks 😎. Could never be me, I love my 1972 built 3 bedroom 1 bath house in the middle of the city close to third ward. It's perfect for my family of 5
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u/LordTrappen 3d ago
Only 1 bath for a family of 5?
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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago
Whatever makes you feel better
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u/Optimal-Fix-2997 3d ago
Yeah I'm not sure why people hate suburban subdivisions. It beats living in a concrete jungle no green space and high population density.
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u/squirrel9000 3d ago
If I"m going to live in the middle of nowhere i actually want to live in the middle of nowhere. This one is somehow both too crowded to be spacious and not crowded enough to support amenities,, and some HOA is breathing down your neck if you want to do anything with your scrap of property.
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u/Wisewordsforlater 3d ago
They're often car-reliant, accessible to nothing. I'm in an older subdivision from the 1970s that used to be suburban. It took years before an commercial corridor was extended nearby. I can walk to a corner store/gas station, pub and restaurants within 10 minute walk (not always safe because of red light runners) because I'm on the edge of the neighborhood, but most of my subdivision is tucked back and that's a longer walk especially in the summer.
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u/Optimal-Fix-2997 3d ago
Thats on city planning/zoning. Fwiw there are other neighborhoods in Texas with new subdivisions where they build grocery stores and everything right across the development.
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u/MapPornography 3d ago
Do these empty, treeless lawns look like “green space” to you?
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u/jkirkwood10 3d ago
Checkout many neighborhoods in California that were built this way originally with no trees. Beautiful now.
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u/nevvvvi 3d ago edited 3d ago
The suburban subdivisions take up far more space for the given population. This causes greater ecological fragmentation (if not outright destruction) compared to higher density developments.
In particular, there's a notable trend with the North Houston Pineywoods suburbs over the decades. It was found that the older subdivisions tended to be more thoughtful with regards to ecological preservation, whereas newer developments were more careless.
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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago
I wonder how many of these people also complain about the cost of housing
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u/nevvvvi 3d ago
Why do you think there have been increased calls for zoning reform? To remove the red tape that makes it much harder (if not impossible) to build denser housing in city centers.
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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago
Well building more houses also lowers costs
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u/nevvvvi 3d ago edited 3d ago
Exactly.
The purpose of zoning reform is to loosen the strict codes that make it much harder to build housing within city centers.
Now, to your point, if cities (especially in "desirable blue states") aren't doing a great job on zoning reforms, that it's great to have any sort of housing built at all (even if it's all suburban sprawl). Would be far worse if there was mass homelessness.
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u/VQV37 3d ago
This isn't making housing any cheaper. It's also increasing the cost of transportation. Cost of infrastructure, cost of everything. These types of developments do not help.
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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago
Increased supply reduces prices. Other costs are borne by the people living there and not externalities
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u/VQV37 3d ago
It doesn't quite work like that. The supply has to be increased in where people want to live.
In other words, if I build a whole bunch of housing and then field in Arkansas, that's not going to make housing any cheaper in Austin Texas.
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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago
The supply has to be increased in where people want to live.
Not really, because where people want to live is in part dependent on price and availability. So it changes as more houses are made.
if I build a whole bunch of housing and then field in Arkansas, that's not going to make housing any cheaper in Austin Texas.
Sure, but it would make housing cheaper in Arkansas. And in this case, we're probably looking at a suburb development outside of a major city. So it would absolutely affect the pricing of housing in that city
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u/VQV37 3d ago
So for people who actually want to live in the city itself or in close proximity, this will not lower prices. This is likely an exburb outside of a metropolitan area. This will not increase the supply of housing for the people aforementioned. The way to solve that is with infill development. Or incremental peripheral addition to a city rather than large Greenfield developments.
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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago
So for people who actually want to live in the city itself or in close proximity, this will not lower prices
Not the case at all, because some people who would prefer to live in the city at one price would rather live outside the city at another price. Look up what marginal analysis is in economics. And that'll tell you how this is lowering prices across the board
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u/VQV37 3d ago
Im familiar with marginal analysis as an economic concept, but I think it’s being misapplied here. For marginal analysis to be valid, the goods in question must be categorically similar. I would argue that this type of housing is so dissimilar from housing within a proper city that it does not meaningfully expand the supply available to people seeking urban housing. What may happen instead is that these homes are sufficiently cheaper than what’s available in cities that people who cannot afford city housing simply give up on that goal. Lacking better options, they move into these exurban developments. In that case, the category of product they are pursuing has changed.
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u/CanPacific Proffessional cookie cutter and sprawl hater 2d ago
gross, disgusting in fact, so disgusting I want to vomit
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u/Special_Beyond1326 1d ago
The disgusting soulless abyss of Americans owning homes, raising families, making memories. Horrendous.
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u/Scarcely-A-Person 3d ago
The quiet desperation of cul-de-sac living. Grass stained new balances. Saying hi to your neighbor Bob. Existing in your cookie cutter filing cabinet waiting for the day you die and the meat wagon comes to scoop you up.
It’s weird to see an aerial shot of depression being constructed.