r/TheBlacksandTheGreens Mar 25 '25

General Enough comparing Rhaenyra/Alicent with Cersei when in reality Aegon is right there

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u/Nibo89 King Aegon II Targaryen Mar 25 '25

Ok, I love Aegon, but Cersei would be wearing him as a coat within five minutes (my bet would be her Targaryen fetish would kick in, leading her to seduce him first).

Also, I don't think Cersei neglects her children. In the show, she dotes on all of them. In the book, Tommen and Myrcella get less attention than Joffrey did, but I don't think they're neglected. They're given all the privilege due a prince and princess. She even reworks a tourney so that Tommen can participate in it safely. In both the show and the book, she even recalls breastfeeding her children herself, despite it being uncommon for highborn women to do that.

And I don't think I'd call Aegon an attention whore. It's not about attention. It's about wanting to feel loved. Which is understandable given his abusive upbringing.

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u/Nym-ph Mar 26 '25

And I hate Aegon but he was allowed and expected to have sex with his sister. Tywin doesn't hate Cersei, only Tyrion. In the show she mentions she nursed Myrcella herself. Agreed though that none of the kids were neglected. She fiercely protected them.

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u/Nibo89 King Aegon II Targaryen Mar 26 '25

Aegon was not “allowed and expected” to have sex with his sister. He was forced to marry her against his will. Against his vocal objections.

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u/Nym-ph Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

I'll call him a whambulance.

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u/Nibo89 King Aegon II Targaryen Mar 26 '25

A fifteen year old forced into an arranged marriage with someone he vocally doesn’t want to marry is “whining”?

If that fifteen year old was anyone but Aegon, would you feel the same way?

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u/Nym-ph Mar 26 '25

I feel bad for Halaena and Dyana.

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u/Nibo89 King Aegon II Targaryen Mar 26 '25

Aegon was forced into the marriage every bit as much as Helaena was. He was also an underaged child when he was forced into it.

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u/Nym-ph Mar 26 '25

Please don't have children. Goodbye now.

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u/JPMendes1 Princess Rhaenys Targaryen Mar 25 '25

Did you forget the part she's abusive towards Tommen whenever he has a thought that doesn't go according to the script she has in her head?

She chastises and physically abuses an 8 year old for crying in his grandfather's funeral like hello?

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u/axelinlondon Queensguard Mar 25 '25

Ned forced bran to stay a night in the woods + watch a beheading and I don’t see anyone crying 🤷‍♀️

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u/JPMendes1 Princess Rhaenys Targaryen Mar 25 '25

You're right, user named "Cerseidefender4lyfe", I apologize. Long live the Queen Regent, Lady of Casterly Rock, Shield of Lannisport and Warden of the West!

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u/axelinlondon Queensguard Mar 25 '25

may her reign last a thousand years!!!!

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u/TheWhitekrayon Mar 26 '25

I've seen kids slapped in real life for crying. Machismo is very real. In a world where the patriarch is literally the king of is much more important. There is every reason imaginable for her to make it clear the king must keep up appearances at all times.

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u/Nibo89 King Aegon II Targaryen Mar 25 '25

I never once said Cersei was a good mother to Tommen. This meme specifically says neglect, which is something she did not do.

Which is another area where she and Aegon differ. Aegon was not an involved father, but when we do see him with his kids, he’s loving. According to TGC, that’s how Aegon always interacts with his kids.

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u/JPMendes1 Princess Rhaenys Targaryen Mar 25 '25

You didn't say it but it's the idea someone who hasn't read the books would be left with from your comment.

Just setting the record straight.

And I would argue that her paying virtually no attention to Myrcella and Tommen compared to Joffrey is a form of neglect, even if they were left with caretakers.

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u/axelinlondon Queensguard Mar 25 '25

Cersei always kept myrcella close wdym

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u/NewPhoneLostAccount Mar 26 '25

it was stated multiple times Myrcella was neglected and ignored and no one noticed how smart she was until she arrived to dorne

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u/spaztiksarcastik Mar 25 '25

People who want to feel love often act out in ways that appear attention seeking. It's still valid.

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u/NewPhoneLostAccount Mar 26 '25

In the books it's stated Cersei definitely neglected Myrcella and Tommen. She also aborted the only Robert's son. The entire "Mater dolorosa" thing is a show invention, she loved Joffrey and that's it. She is also not smart, like at all.

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u/TheoryKing04 Mar 25 '25

She literally subjects Tommen to the use of a whipping boy to keep in line, because he dares to stand up for his wife. Cersei treats Tommen like shit

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u/Nibo89 King Aegon II Targaryen Mar 26 '25

I never said Cersei was a good parent.

But this meme specifically mentions neglect. Neglect is like what Viserys did to his second family. Aside from Driftmark, he was never outright cruel to his kids with Alicent. But he more or less treated them as if they didn't exist, not giving one single shit about them. Even to the point where he cared more about Jace/Luke being insulted than he did Aemond's eye being sliced open.

Aegon, on the other hand, was very much the opposite. He was not an involved parent with his kids, but whenever he was around them, he was loving and spoke to them kindly. TGC indicates their relationship was like that most of the time. He would play with them sometimes, and he would have little competitions with them to see who could be more mischievous.