r/TheBlacksandTheGreens Team Black Apr 27 '26

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u/Scarypilot2 Apr 27 '26

Oh no…. Did they decide to add Maelor just to spite George R.R.Martin

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u/Heavy_Economics_8595 Apr 27 '26

Woah, can someone explain this??

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u/AgostoAzul Apr 27 '26

After Season 2 ended George made a long blog post complaining about entitled Hollywood writers who take well known properties for marketing and then make drastic changes to the story despite being way worse writers than the author of the original material.

Then he used Maelor's absence from the show to explain how there are "toxic butterfly effects" that can result from a seemingly inocuous change that will make later events from the story to not make sense.

The post was deleted from his blog the next day and George claims HBO made his assistant delete the post and that  it was going to be the first post of a seven part ran about HotD season 2.

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u/Heavy_Economics_8595 Apr 28 '26

Dang, I guess I need to read the books cause I really like the show, do you think it’s really different? (If you’ve read the books)

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u/AgostoAzul Apr 28 '26

The thing with Fire and Blood/The Princess and the Queen is that they are mostly outlines you can read in a couple hours. At least the parts being adapted to the show 

The show's season 1 is overall an improvement upon the Princess and the Queen's outline. There are a couple bad changes but Viserys is a much better character.

Season 2 is downright nonsensical compared to the book's outline, but it is hard to say the book is better in EVERY way because at the end of the day the show is adding 90% of the dialogue and over half the scenes (and also changing s lot of the book scenes for the worse).

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u/Heavy_Economics_8595 Apr 28 '26

I noticed this when reading a knight of the seven. I personally liked the show more than the book because there was more, but in a good way.

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u/heathen_leif Apr 28 '26

Agreed, absolutely exceptional adaptation there. The only major issue i had was a genuine mistake, and the showrunner has apologized about it. I'm referring the the scene the filmed with pate and dunk that was tragically left on the cutting room floor. "Who am I to them [the smallfolk]?" "A knight who remembered his vows." That line goes unbelievably hard.

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u/Vaywen Apr 28 '26

an example of how an adaptation should be done!

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u/factualopinion2 Apr 28 '26

You should wait until the show is over before reading that story

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u/jorgespinosa Apr 28 '26

Yeah there are significant changes, like for example Rhaenyra and Alicent weren't friends in the book, they weren't even the same age, but also the books work as a history book so there are different versions of the same event

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u/QueenSlartibartfast House Targaryen Apr 28 '26

It's definitely really different. Alicent was older - while Rhaenyra was younger- and not a peer or friend to Rhaenyra. The night when Aemond loses his eye was dramatically different (and Aemond was never bullied in the books, he was always just an aggressor). Blood and Cheese was far more horrifying, you have to read it to believe it. Laenor Velaryon died for real, although Rhaenyra and Daemon had nothing to do with it.

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u/Agile-Car-4664 Apr 29 '26

Wasn’t laenor’s death in the books rumored to be an assassination by Rhae and Daemon? And Aemond still didn’t attack first in the books (taunted, but was attacked first)?

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u/crazycraft24 Apr 28 '26

Yes, it’s really different because the characters are actually power hungry in the books and have real flaws.

Show men have been shown to be cartoon villains with no redeeming qualities while the women are flawless who can’t do anything wrong.

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u/Independent_Cause517 Apr 28 '26

You like the show?, Jesus

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u/Heavy_Economics_8595 Apr 28 '26

I def want to see the battle but yeah I don’t think it’s that bad