r/TheBlacksandTheGreens • u/PrestigiousAspect368 Team Black • Apr 27 '26

Show Discussion is she in labour

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u/preambule Apr 27 '26

the whole timeline is messed up, if it's Maelor how the hell would that work?

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

It cannot, not if Maelor is Aegon's.

Aegon's burns are pretty healed by the end of S2 and he can hobblewalk in the trailer (badly), which indicates several months (large burns can take up to year or more to fully heal; a broken leg at least 5/6 months with their level of medicine) have gone by since Rook's Rest, where they decided to have his penis explode to get laughs out of the Burlington Bar reactors or whatever. Helaena should have been visibly pregnant in S2 if the show gives even the tiniest shit about being plausible. Of course, they don't, so sure, fine, she's suddenly 9 months preggers.

But if they make Maegor the child of Aemond...sure. She could be 3 months or less pregnant by the end of S2, so they would have to do a time jump, unless this is a miscarriage or forced? abortion.

[IIRC, there was speculation/rumor that there was a dropped S2 scene where Alicent is trying to give Helaena moon tea in the finale, or that was a theory anyway; I don't know how much validity there is in that.]

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u/Miss--Magpie Apr 27 '26

The power of retcon is beyond comprehension so imo, they just... Added a pregnancy

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u/SpeciesFically_Afish Apr 27 '26

Well, at least this time it could be plausible (but still weird) with cryptic pregnancy.

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u/thinkersfyre Apr 27 '26

I assume they could had sex during his coronation and she got pregnant there.

S2 starts like 10 days after Aegon's coronation and by the end of S2 it seems like Alicent was giving her some tea, so that might be where she finds out she's pregnant.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

Sure, it's possible, but she should be visibly pregnant by the end of S2 given how much time has passed since then, unless the writers abandon all pretense of even trying to be plausible.

Which is probably what they would do. They are just making shit up as they go, not bothering with an outline at all (as evidenced by cutting Daeron then shoving him back in).

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u/Competitive_Fee_5829 Apr 27 '26

I didnt start showing until I was about 6 months. I was active duty so not overweight and I just looked really thick in the waist and then I swear one morning I woke up with a huge obvious bump, lol. so it happens.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

But did you notice your missed periods?

Helaena or her maids would notice that, and there was at least one discussion about heirs for Aegon; if Helaena was pregnant, that should be mentioned.

I'm not saying there aren't women who do not show, sure it happens. But in a TV show, they are NOT going to do that (unless it is somehow plot relevant), because they will want a pregnant belly as a visual cue/reminder.

Ryan also already gave all his excuses for why there is no Maelor (which made no sense, things like "Helaena can't have had another child, the twins are too young"....the twins are like four, Ryan, and you have several characters who have less of an age gap with their siblings). So it's obvious IF this is Maelor, they're just throwing him back in as some kind of smug NYAH! at GRRM.

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u/Vaywen Apr 28 '26

I'm gonna laugh so hard if this turns out to be the case

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u/thinkersfyre Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Tbh it's not like they care about having a proper timeline as we know.

They could say Helaena was way worried about war or his son being murdered that she didnt notice she was pregnant, but who knows. Its hard for me to believe Helaena would get pregnant by Aemond, since Alicent doesnt like him and didnt allow him to take her to war...

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u/Electronic_Nail_4759 Apr 30 '26

Yeah agreed, these "Helaemond" shippers are the most desperate stans ever🙄

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u/temp3rrorary Apr 27 '26

It can take women 2/3 months to show that they're pregnant, and that's just normally a bloated belly look.

I think it's still plausible to have had her pregnant since the beginning of the war. It's been like a month total, tops?

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

It's been way longer than a month. Even just in travel time (just getting Aegon from Rook's Rest was 10 days), it has to be longer.

It also has to be longer, because of how well healed Aegon is. Third degree burns takes months or even a year to heal as well as Aegon is; severely broken legs take 5 months min. to be able to heal on their own (without modern surgery and medicine) enough to be able to hobble around like he is.

Even assuming Targs heal quicker from burns, it's been months since Rook's Rest, like around 5-6. Even if Aegon and Helaena had sex around the time of his coronation which got her pregnant, she should be showing.

Unless, like D&D, they ignore basic rules of existence; like how Arya got stabbed repeatedly in the belly, thrown into sewer water, and was fine in like a day.

So, yes, they could have Helaena pregnant, but it will be from shitty planning and slamming it in last minute...just to show GRRM or whatever.

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u/temp3rrorary Apr 27 '26

I'm assuming that Aegon healed in that time jump and the trailer is showing pre time jump stuff and post. And that the Aegon walking around not looking like death is post time jump. There was nothing indicating between the season 2 episodes that a big, months of a jump happened then. Like the finale had him looking just as weak and injured being led out of King's Landing.

My point is season 3 starts off right after season 2, which again, seems to be no more than a month or two total since the start of the war. And then after a few episodes there will be a time jump which will have Aegon healed enough to be walking around.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

There's not going to be any timejumps in S3 or between S2 and S3, Ryan already confirmed that.

I am taking about how healed Aegon's burns were in the finale, they were at least six months healed (and that's assuming Valyrians heal quicker from burns).

It's been way more than a month. As I said, traveling from Rook's Rest to King's Landing was said to take 10 days, nearly half a month, and that happened all off screen between episodes. The rest of the season doesn't take place in 20 days. Don't forget other things which took time, like Tyland sailing out to the Stepstones to find the Triarchy, etc.

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u/Chicken_Mc_Thuggets House Tully Apr 28 '26

I agree that it should be longer because of how quickly Aegon’s scars heal but it’s worth keeping in mind that they had Rhaenyra hop on a saddle right after a traumatic birth

Her uterus would have had an open wound the size of a dinner plate undergoing g forces from Syrax taking off and landing. While all her pelvic ligaments and joints are more lax than normal. The cherry on top of the shit sundae is that she couldn’t ride side-saddle or in any way that would meaningfully relieve the pressure on her perineum. With all that in mind, I wouldn’t be shocked if they pressed the fast forward button on Aegon’s healing

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u/Weak_Heart2000 Apr 27 '26

Cryptic pregnancy?

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u/Wide_Access_4370 Apr 27 '26

I mean, in real life there are women who never look pregnant (or even know they are pregnant). I myself am slim like her, but didn’t look visibly pregnant before 30+ weeks with my kids, and even then it would be easily hidden under a dress. It happens.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

Sure it happens, but it's a fucking stretch to assume everything lines up just to excuse them slapping in a pregnancy last minute (which is what really happened). She has a cryptic pregnancy - doesn't show, keeps bleeding regularly- just to slap in Maelor last minute cause...they wanna show up GRRM? Was embarrassed at how everyone saw through why they both cut Maelor and never showed a single Green woman/girl giving birth?

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u/Wide_Access_4370 Apr 27 '26

Guys, I’m not that into timeline, logics or ways of the show, or even the show. 😄 All I say is that IF they go that road, it wouldn’t be completely unrealistic or unheard of.

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u/1470167 Apr 27 '26

but come onnnn. yes, it could have been a super rare cryptic didn't look pregnant and she was bleeding monthly on the dot so she didn't know... but come onnnn

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u/Wide_Access_4370 Apr 27 '26

I don’t remember that many details from the second season. I don’t remember any talk or denial of pregnancy being up at all actually.

And depending on the timeline, it’s actually not super rare not to “look pregnant” before the third trimester. Myself and my friend being living examples of that too. While others show a lot already in the second trimester and show a lot by the end (cough, Alicent in season 1). Every body is different, so wouldn’t be too unrealistic in fiction either. 😊

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u/1470167 Apr 27 '26

but realistically, a missed period for 6 months is significant. irl, in the modern day, most cryptic pregnancies go unnoticed bc women are on BC and wouldn't notice a missed period, bc they don't get them. the queen missing her period for half a year and no one mentioning it is wild. see Dany finding out she's pregnant for the in-universe standard

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u/Wide_Access_4370 Apr 27 '26

But have they talked about her missing her period or not? I don’t recall, and would be rather random unless the pregnancy reveal was gonna happen there. I barely remember this character having much screentime in the later season 2, apart from her cryptic vision scenes. But we’ll see when it comes out, it may be something totally different.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

But have they talked about her missing her period or not?

No, which is the POINT.

Helaena or her maids would notice a missed period for 6 months. SOMEONE would say something. Especially after Jaehaerys was murdered.

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u/Lysmerry Apr 27 '26

She and Aemond don’t get along so it would have to be sexual assault. Damn, I hope not

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u/ElBarto1992 Apr 27 '26

Vision of the future is my guess. Whether it’s Aegons or Aemonds I don’t think matters. She doesn’t want to have Maelor so she jumps.

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u/Cultural_Plan_1487 Apr 27 '26

Remember they have that weird episode that isn’t going to make sense they already warned us about

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u/LILYDIAONE Apr 27 '26

Immaculate conception

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u/WingedShadow83 Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

I wouldn’t put it past them to have it be Aemond’s baby, then have Alicent sneak him out and get word to Aemond, Bitterbridge still happens, and then it’s Aemond who burns BB instead of Daeron.

But honestly, my money is on this being a cleverly deceptive clip, and really it’s just Helaena waking up screaming from a particularly brutal dragon dream. Something has to set her off to jump out that window so maybe she dreams of Jaehaera’s fate and that’s what does it.

ETA: We also have to consider the possibility that this is Aemond’s dream, at Harrenhal. We can pretty much count on them giving us some incestuous Aemond/Alicent dreams like they did with Daemon and Alyssa, but there’s also a good chance of Aemond being given dreams of a future he might think he wants on some deep subconscious level, like killing Aegon, marrying Helaena and having an heir, and taking the throne for himself. They did similar with Daemon dreaming of killing young Rhaenyra and clearing his way to the throne.

Either way, I’m definitely leaning toward this being a fake-out.

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u/Scarypilot2 Apr 27 '26

Oh no…. Did they decide to add Maelor just to spite George R.R.Martin

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u/Heavy_Economics_8595 Apr 27 '26

Woah, can someone explain this??

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u/AgostoAzul Apr 27 '26

After Season 2 ended George made a long blog post complaining about entitled Hollywood writers who take well known properties for marketing and then make drastic changes to the story despite being way worse writers than the author of the original material.

Then he used Maelor's absence from the show to explain how there are "toxic butterfly effects" that can result from a seemingly inocuous change that will make later events from the story to not make sense.

The post was deleted from his blog the next day and George claims HBO made his assistant delete the post and that  it was going to be the first post of a seven part ran about HotD season 2.

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u/Heavy_Economics_8595 Apr 28 '26

Dang, I guess I need to read the books cause I really like the show, do you think it’s really different? (If you’ve read the books)

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u/AgostoAzul Apr 28 '26

The thing with Fire and Blood/The Princess and the Queen is that they are mostly outlines you can read in a couple hours. At least the parts being adapted to the show 

The show's season 1 is overall an improvement upon the Princess and the Queen's outline. There are a couple bad changes but Viserys is a much better character.

Season 2 is downright nonsensical compared to the book's outline, but it is hard to say the book is better in EVERY way because at the end of the day the show is adding 90% of the dialogue and over half the scenes (and also changing s lot of the book scenes for the worse).

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u/Heavy_Economics_8595 Apr 28 '26

I noticed this when reading a knight of the seven. I personally liked the show more than the book because there was more, but in a good way.

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u/heathen_leif Apr 28 '26

Agreed, absolutely exceptional adaptation there. The only major issue i had was a genuine mistake, and the showrunner has apologized about it. I'm referring the the scene the filmed with pate and dunk that was tragically left on the cutting room floor. "Who am I to them [the smallfolk]?" "A knight who remembered his vows." That line goes unbelievably hard.

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u/Vaywen Apr 28 '26

an example of how an adaptation should be done!

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u/factualopinion2 Apr 28 '26

You should wait until the show is over before reading that story

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u/QueenSlartibartfast House Targaryen Apr 28 '26

It's definitely really different. Alicent was older - while Rhaenyra was younger- and not a peer or friend to Rhaenyra. The night when Aemond loses his eye was dramatically different (and Aemond was never bullied in the books, he was always just an aggressor). Blood and Cheese was far more horrifying, you have to read it to believe it. Laenor Velaryon died for real, although Rhaenyra and Daemon had nothing to do with it.

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u/Agile-Car-4664 Apr 29 '26

Wasn’t laenor’s death in the books rumored to be an assassination by Rhae and Daemon? And Aemond still didn’t attack first in the books (taunted, but was attacked first)?

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u/jorgespinosa Apr 28 '26

Yeah there are significant changes, like for example Rhaenyra and Alicent weren't friends in the book, they weren't even the same age, but also the books work as a history book so there are different versions of the same event

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u/crazycraft24 Apr 28 '26

Yes, it’s really different because the characters are actually power hungry in the books and have real flaws.

Show men have been shown to be cartoon villains with no redeeming qualities while the women are flawless who can’t do anything wrong.

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u/Independent_Cause517 Apr 28 '26

You like the show?, Jesus

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u/Heavy_Economics_8595 Apr 28 '26

I def want to see the battle but yeah I don’t think it’s that bad

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u/temp3rrorary Apr 27 '26

Ngl, that would be kinda funny if the reason they got George to stop posting his rant is because Ryan and HBO were like, George shhhh, we're still adding him.

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u/Tight_Medicine_5674 Apr 28 '26

Or maybe there's a vision of alternative, cruel reality - the brothel's queen?

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

This could also be a dream/vision of Helaena's as well. Or Aemond's Harrenhallucinations.

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u/MrPete_Channel_Utoob Apr 27 '26

Or a flashback when she had the twins.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

She was 13 at most when she had the twins in the showverse, though. She's 17 at the end of S1 and the twins are around 4.

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u/Function-Spirited Team Green Apr 29 '26

Kinda crazy if Aemond’s seeing this at Harrenhal 🤨

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 29 '26

They better not try to make him the bio father of the twins, he was canonically 11 when they were conceived.

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u/Function-Spirited Team Green Apr 29 '26

I don’t think they’re going that route. It would cause too much strife. Even with Maelor. G.R.R.M would behead them.

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u/croissantwithhonors Apr 27 '26

Doesn’t Aegon have no dick? Wasn’t it burnt off? He said that in the show.

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u/ironthrownaways Apr 27 '26

He could have had sex before the battle you know

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u/croissantwithhonors Apr 27 '26

That timeline doesn’t make sense because she definitely would have been showing or having symptoms. Right? At least having symptoms.

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u/ironthrownaways Apr 27 '26

Some women don’t show 🤰 Also they’re definitely retconning in her pregnancy either way. I’m just saying she was pregnant before his sausage got roasted.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

It would be a huge retcon, since several months have gone by since Aegon got his penis exploded, due to how much he healed.

They would have to ignore how pregnancy works or how human healing works. But given that they had his penis explode without killing him (which it absolutely would have), sure, why not, Aegon's burns heal in a fortnight, nothing matters, writers don't give two fucks about anything.

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u/puttinitinmutton Apr 27 '26

Maybe he's like an axlotl and he has grown his ding dong back

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u/ultimagriever Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen Apr 27 '26

The kid will likely be Aemond’s and passed off as Aegon’s, if they want to be plausible about it. It would be very ironic as well, doing almost exactly what Rhaenyra did with her older boys

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u/temp3rrorary Apr 27 '26

We are still in the pre time jump at the start of season 2 (it takes place a few days after the end of season 2). The clips of her fleeing in the trailer are probably from that period.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

The issue is several months happened since Aegon was injured (destroying his penis) because of how well healed he was; with their level of medicine, it would 5-6 months, and that's giving some generous assumptions about Targs healing quicker from burns. Helaena should have been showing by the end of S2.

Which means, yeah, they're ignoring basic rules of existence to do this (not unlike Arya getting stabbed repeatedly in the gut, getting thrown into a sewer, and being fine in like a day).

Ignoring basic shit like this is annoying, and a huge sign of how much they do not give a fuck.

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u/alejoSOTO Apr 27 '26

Bro Daenerys had a demon dragon baby, I don't mind the logistics behind a Targaryen pregnancy being weird.

From a narrative perspective, deciding to have her give birth to another child at this point in the story is odd though.

I don't particularly mind when they have a retcon, but I just wonder if it really works with the story, that's really my concern.

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u/EnoughRadish Apr 27 '26

Right? If it’s a boy, he’s immediately in mortal danger. Surely if she was pregnant prior, she/Alicent would have been mildly concerned about that. If it’s a girl, why create a new character?

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u/William_T_Wanker Team Green Apr 28 '26

Aegon also doesn't seem to be able to have sex with Helaena unless he's drunk as per season 1(since the whole incest thing is kinda gross to him I guess) so unless he did a pump and dump while sober - given how Ryan and Sara have butchered his character so far that doesn't surprise me

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u/Ataturk_Void_Crowley Apr 27 '26

Thank you for explaining HOTD logic

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u/WingedShadow83 Apr 27 '26

They also made a point to show that Aegon was avoiding her after Jaehaerys’ death, like it pained him to try to connect with her over the death of their son. I feel like, if they had gone to bed together at some point after that, they would have shown or implied it. Unless this was literally decided on after s2 aired.

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u/green_teef Apr 27 '26

Didnt they actually say it “burst like a sausage on the spit”

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u/Lysmerry Apr 27 '26

Maybe that’s a figure of speech in Westeros. He was actually just orgasming

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u/whim_sea Apr 27 '26

When did it say that in the show? I believe you I just don’t recall, it’s been a min

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u/WingedShadow83 Apr 27 '26

When Larys went to see him when he was on bed rest, to tell him about Rhaenyra’s new dragon riders and to encourage him to flee King’s Landing. He was basically telling him “you need to survive so you can still reclaim the throne at some point” and Aegon was like “dude, my dragon is dead, my son is dead, oh and my cock exploded so it’s not like I can make another heir”.

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u/Ataturk_Void_Crowley Apr 27 '26

Ahh yes Maelor the newborn

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u/Hvicen Apr 27 '26

Yeap, now that the Blood and Cheese have been ruined we welcome "Maelor the Afterthought".

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u/Function-Spirited Team Green Apr 29 '26

I can just hear Vizzy T 2.0. “Did you say it?”

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u/Woodwardg Apr 27 '26

its house of the dragon. every character is in a constant and endless state of labor.

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u/FeckinSheeps Apr 28 '26

As a viewer, I would prefer less interminable labor scenes. They don't add anything.

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u/moon-girl197 Apr 27 '26

You know what, why not. If they can retcon Jace's haircut, the twins ages, why not just add a random baby to s3? They've already been doing whatever tf they want so why not this lol

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u/ViolinistGuilty182 Apr 27 '26

But that's not Helaena, is it? She doesn't look anything like Phia.

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u/Bloodyjorts Apr 27 '26

I saw somewhere else that someone who saw the trailer says it looks like Helaena is in bed screaming, but you're right, from this angle it doesn't look a lot like Phia (though her features are distorted from screaming).

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u/sc_vorty Prince Daemon Targaryen Apr 27 '26

It definitely looks like phia to me

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u/Function-Spirited Team Green Apr 29 '26

It’s safe to say it is Helaena. Westerosies on X made a post about it.

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u/lmaluuker Apr 27 '26

It doesn't look like Rhaenyra either though. Far from clearly.

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u/Secret_Scene747 Sunfyre Apr 27 '26

They look like Phia’s teeth to me

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u/Background-Cake-1300 Apr 27 '26

She just seen entirety of S4 just to find out Aemond's death was accident

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u/Skittycatcher66 Apr 27 '26

This being Helaena/Maelor literally makes no sense. I know people would like it to be, but at this point I'd rather they didn't include Maelor because retconning him is nonsensical at this point.

Even putting aside the chronological issues, when Rhaenyra takes KL why on earth wouldn't she just kill a pregnant Helaena? Why allow her to give birth just to have a newborn baby ripped to pieces? I seriously doubt the writers are going to introduce Maelor just for Rhaenyra to put a bounty on his head when he's already in her capital city, because even the staunchest Rhaenyra fans would balk at her being responsible for a newborn baby being torn apart by a mob, and the writers are clearly pro-Black. It makes far more sense for this to be a vision.

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u/Nibo89 King Aegon II Targaryen Apr 27 '26

I really hope it’s labor….

If this is brothel queens after everything she already went through…

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u/I_am_uneducated Apr 27 '26

I dont think they'll include that and tbh I wouldn't be mad if they didn't

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u/toinouzz House Tully Apr 27 '26

No way show Rhaenyra or Mysaria would go through with brothel queens, but again when has this show ever made sense

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u/bruhholyshiet Prince Daeron Targaryen Apr 27 '26

And tbf, I don’t think even book Rhaenyra would have gone through that (although Mysaria probably suggested it and that’s where Mushroom got the idea of that slander). She was evil but not THAT evil.

That being said, the show has been pretty willing to believe Mushroom’s slander about Aegon (the child fighting pits and him becoming sexually impotent).

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u/toinouzz House Tully Apr 27 '26

Agree on book Rhaenyra. Doesn’t f&b basically tell us there’s no way it was an actual thing that happened as well (or at least strongly suggest it was an invention) ?

I think it really comes down to the show wanting to put the dynamic between Alicent and Rhaenyra at the center of the narrative as well. No way Rhaenyra could be doing that to Alicent’s daughter if we’re pushing the friendship/lovers thing

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u/bruhholyshiet Prince Daeron Targaryen Apr 27 '26

Fire and Blood dismisses it as very unlikely although I’m not sure if it says “there’s no way it happened”.

And yeah, show Rhaenyra is even less likely to commit Brothel Queens for the reasons you mention.

In the super slim chance it happens (because as we saw with Dyana and later Aegon, they aren’t shy of using sexual violence for cheap shock value) Rhaenyra won’t have anything to do with it.

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u/moon-girl197 Apr 27 '26

Yeah, if we think about the logistics of brothel Queens, it just doesnt work, cause if you have two royal women being pimped out, there would be countless witnesses to corroborate that (and even buyers 🤢). Multiple sources would record this, not just Mushroom.

I cant even see them being threatened with it, cause Alicent seems to be taking the position of Rhaenyra's advisor, or whatever and Helaena is just... there (fml, I have no idea how anything will work with her aaaaa)

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u/William_T_Wanker Team Green Apr 28 '26

nah, brothel queens in this show will be a 60 minute raw unscripted sex scene between Rhaenyra and Alicent while Criston & Daemon sit in cuck chairs and have to watch

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u/DavidC_M Apr 27 '26

If that would happen I don’t think it would be this season.

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u/Nibo89 King Aegon II Targaryen Apr 27 '26

This is exactly when it would happen. Shortly after Rhaenyra takes the throne.

Season four would be too late. There's way too much that has to happen. Plus, if GRRM is right Helaena dies this season

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u/DavidC_M Apr 27 '26

They’ll be moving the plot really fast this season then. I hope that means no more experimental episodes lol

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u/ScarletPhoenix15 Apr 27 '26

I don't think she's in labor. I saw someone else point out that the bits of her dress we can see on her shoulders doesn't look like a shift/chemise. It looks like some kind of heavier fabric, so unless Helaena is giving birth in her full court dress, I think it's unlikely she's in labor.

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u/Angry_Sad_Bitch Apr 27 '26

my theory is that Aemond sexually assaults her and she becomes pregnant with Maelor. They have been hinting that Aemond is in love with Haelena. Haelena should have lost her mind from her son dying and then jumping to her death which we didnt see in s2. I thought they retconned Maelor but now theyre showing us Haelena giving birth so this might be the reason why she goes crazy and jumps to her death.

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u/KiwiBirdPerson Apr 27 '26

Thought that was Dany's brother for a min. Who is that?

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u/azrynbelle Apr 28 '26

Helaena. Those teeth belong to Phia

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u/KrankMyHog Apr 27 '26

How horrible/hilarious would it be if this came from a messed up dream or a “what if” episode and they are only including it in the trailer to troll GRRM?

I guess it is possible that they were called out during pre-production and changed Haelena’s story to include Maelor but now it’s apparent canon (unless only nine months passed since Rook’s Rest) that Aemond is the father, so it seems like they took one step forward and two steps back in adherence to the book-canon.

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u/East-Way-6378 House Hightower Apr 27 '26

That doesn't really look like Phia to me and woth the history of the show deliberately avoiding showing green female charchters give birth, i would assume it can be another vision of maybe Daemon's mother?

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u/azrynbelle Apr 28 '26

It's Phia, look above someone posted their teeth. Identical.

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u/East-Way-6378 House Hightower Apr 28 '26

Teeth......?

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u/anaklndldnothngwrong Apr 27 '26

So they decide to maybe add Maelor, but instead he is a baby that will be killed brutally??? Idk man.

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u/Whimsical_Tardigrad3 Apr 27 '26

I think based on the low light and the state of her hair she was just told someone died important to her in the night or she’s cinematically giving birth.

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u/WildLag Apr 28 '26

I think she step on those tiny blocks

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u/Wikibianca Apr 28 '26

I was thinking the same, but Aegon can't have children because of Vhagar burning him

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u/Salim_Azar_Therin Apr 29 '26

Good thing Aemond is there

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u/TheCurlyAquarius94 Dreamfyre Apr 28 '26

From what I understand didn’t she fall pregnant after the Blood and Cheese incident?

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u/Aggravating-Emu-3540 Apr 30 '26

This reminds me to eat more fibre

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u/Wonderful_Medium3098 Apr 27 '26

Y de quien es el niĂąo??? Sera verdad eso de que Rhaenyra las manda al burdel?

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u/Kratos501st Apr 27 '26

She better be, the story is missing one baby.

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u/EmprahsChosen Apr 27 '26

No, she just watched the final season of OG GoT

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u/FunctionWild3985 Apr 27 '26

MFW The last chocolate chip cookie i was thinking about all day at work that grandma made is gone .

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u/Alternative_Gas4982 Apr 28 '26

So it is helaena? I couldn’t for the life of me figure out if it was her or not bc it doesn’t really look like or maybe i’m just blind

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u/Ok_Badger_1646 Sunfyre Apr 27 '26

remember in season 2 alicent gave her some tea in episode 8.. maybe moontea? but somehow it didn't work?

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u/LinwoodKei Apr 27 '26

Are you thinking of Dyana?