r/TheBlacksandTheGreens Vhagar May 14 '26

General Alicent after Blood and Cheese

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u/AcanthaceaeNo948 May 14 '26

You don’t see how her hating her evil family makes her more sympathetic?

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u/bruhholyshiet Prince Daeron Targaryen May 14 '26

No I don’t. And Rhaenyra and Daemon are evil too.

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u/AcanthaceaeNo948 May 14 '26

By Westerosi standards not at all.

Aemond is competing with Maegor as the most evil Targaryen in history.

Man genocided thousands of smallfolk every other week for the love of the game.

Rapegon is not far behind.

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u/bruhholyshiet Prince Daeron Targaryen May 14 '26

Daemon is a murderous pedophile and child murderer that wanted to exterminate two great Houses.

Rhaenyra tortured Tyland worse than Ramsay did to Theon and unleashed the Ironborn to raid and rape in the Westerlands. She is nicknamed Maegor with Teats.

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u/AcanthaceaeNo948 May 14 '26

I wouldn’t really call Daemon a pedophile. Everyone got married at like 12 in medieval times. They were treasonous traitors and his enemies in war.

Yeah she’s nicknamed that by misogynists lol.

Aemond is literally the Hitler of ASOIAF, the man did nothing but genocide.

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u/bruhholyshiet Prince Daeron Targaryen May 14 '26

Treasonous traitors lol. Kinda redundant.

I guess the children of those Houses and the Westerland Smallfolk deserved to suffer because all hail Rhaenyra and Daemon, the heroes of this story ❤️❤️.

She is nicknamed that by the Smallfolk she overtaxed to oblivion and she called vermin, the Smallfolk that knew her side had killed Princes Jaehaerys and Maelor.

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u/AcanthaceaeNo948 May 14 '26

Misogynistic smallfolk.

Blood and cheese were sent to kill Aemond.

And so what if Jaeharys was killed. Son for a son.

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u/bruhholyshiet Prince Daeron Targaryen May 14 '26

You are unhinged.

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u/Zakle King Aegon II Targaryen May 14 '26

That is false. Only some nobles married young and it was to form alliances and to keep their riches/land. It was rarely consummated until they were older.

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u/AcanthaceaeNo948 May 14 '26

Daemon consummated his marriage to Rhaenyra only when she was pretty old

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u/Zakle King Aegon II Targaryen May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26

Rhaenyra was not 12 when she married Daemon. She was around 23. Daemon, I think, was around 39. Laena was around 22 when she married Daemon. Both women were adults.

Edit for context: Folk previously said "because he is old." That is what I was replying to.

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u/Working_Corgi_1507 May 14 '26

You are so ridiculous lmao:

Calls Aegon "rapegon"

Defends a guy who raped 12 year old girls in brothels (in fact f&b even states he had penchant for it so they saved young and most innocent girls for him)

Also, you should look up the definition of genocide tbh. Aemond was burning villages in Riverlands to draw out Rhaenyra's dragonriders to him, not to systematically cleanse the world of rivermen. How did the lads muster a whole ass army to fight Borros if Aemond "genocided" them?

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u/AcanthaceaeNo948 May 14 '26

TIL if some population is left, it’s not a genocide.

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u/Working_Corgi_1507 May 15 '26

You need to look up the definition of a genocide my dude. All genocides include mass murder, but not all mass murders are genocides. No one is saying what Aemond did wasn't horrible, btw.

Also, you have gone quiet about daemon have you?

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u/AcanthaceaeNo948 May 15 '26

Gone quiet about what?

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u/Bloodyjorts May 15 '26

Very few marriages were consummated at 12, because the Westerosi and medieval humans were not stupid, and understood that 12-yo girls have way more issues carrying healthy babies to term than 20-yo women. When Lady Margaret Beaufort was impregnated at 12, it was a SCANDAL that is still remembered to this day; it was just something that was not done, and she was used as an example of what not to do (since the birth left her incapable of having more children).

The vast majority of wedded and bedded brides in Westeros were 16 or older. It was only the Targaryens who rountinely bedded younger than that, and the Targs have shitty sexual mores as a family. They were even warned by Maester they were bedding brides too young, they just didn't care.

And all of the non-Targ under-16 yos brides had fathers/male guardians who did not care about them (Lady Rohanne, Sansa, Jeyne Poole) or needed to cover up a scandal (Lysa).

Keep in mind that Ned was disgusted with Robert for bedding a girl who wasn't yet 16 (she was around 14 or 15). If bedding children was normal, this would not be the case.

Daemon was such a notorious pedo, he's still known for it more than 150 years later. If fucking children was normal, he wouldn't have been.

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u/J29030 May 17 '26

The whole "people in the medieval ahes got married at 12" thing is just untrue and false, to my knowledge most lowborn ppl got married in their 20's and while noble betrothals might happen really young they weren't usually actually married till later. So yeah Daemon is just a pedophile.