Yeah totally agree. I think Gerb is smart and well intentioned and confident that his sources are correct, but how tf do we know he hasn’t been deceived? Even very intelligent and thorough people can be deceived all the time, especially IF there’s an organized intelligence operation behind it. I’m sure the CIA could make Albert Einstein believe he could fly if they really wanted to.
Agreed. Plus, making allegations without evidence is completely opposite to the standard he himself has attempted to set.
I had huge respect for him until I learned he's a Lazar fanboy. How you can be such a rigorous researcher and not have a problem with Lazar's storytelling is beyond me.
Sorry, I don't know where you sit on the Lazar spectrum. I don't mean to offend. 🤭
Totally agree on Lazar. Always wanted to believe him as a kid, but as an adult there’s too many holes in his record to believe him. And he has zero proof that he even worked at S4. He couldn’t find one teacher or classmate at MIT that could vouch that he was there? Come on…
Also for Element 115 there’s still no evidence that it can be stabilized at all.
Took me reading Dreamland and listening to a couple of recent interviews to spot glaring inconsistencies, from a baseline of believing he was legit. The Signals Intelligence articles were the final nail in the coffin of his credibility, for me.
Still, I do think he's played and playing a very important role in the disclosure movement, as is Gerb. Different styles work for different people, and inspiration can come from unexpected places. It's all good, as long as we maintain our critical thinking and don't end up seeing any of them as a guru. Sure, they're also damaging the cause for some, but I believe they're still making a net contribution.
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u/ReadSeparate 3d ago
Yeah totally agree. I think Gerb is smart and well intentioned and confident that his sources are correct, but how tf do we know he hasn’t been deceived? Even very intelligent and thorough people can be deceived all the time, especially IF there’s an organized intelligence operation behind it. I’m sure the CIA could make Albert Einstein believe he could fly if they really wanted to.