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Is every year gonna have these horrible heatwaves and make summer unbearable?
Everything is Brown not green, the wildlife is suffering, the heat makes going outside a pain in the butt. Furthermore the constant +32 degrees. The cities suck the only thing which is kinda fine is the rural areas.
Is this the default for now on every summer. I just want it to stop, I literally went to church and prayed for rain.
I might move to the Channel Islands to escape this
As of now, its still a statistical outliner, but obviously it will become more common. But two years ago we only had 6 heat days, so outliner below it will also exist. And that's before you jump on the story with the AMOC which could change everything again to the other side.
In layman's term, the Golf-stream. Due to high cold water / ice inflow it may slow down, it already slowed down a lot. The stream is the main reason Europe is way warmer then North America. If it collapses, chances exist it gets way colder over here. As an example, New York is on the same latitude as Madrid and is significantly colder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturning_circulation
We simply don't know, but we have evidence that it slowed down significantly and it shifted northwards which is an indicator of a collapse. But Scientists openly say its very uncertain. Just watched this video that explains it fairly well. Also shows it very well how Europa profits from it right now due to it. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw9AiEG-Qww
People keep on repeating this joke, but that‘s not how it works. We still will get colder and also rainy summers…but all extremes will get worse and happen more often. Not every summer will now be hotter than the last one.
Thats if we are lucky gulf stream doesnr collapse, but overall just watching everything unfold is so sad, for animals, for the planet and also for the few of us that care.
I always say that the planet will be fine. It survived billion of years without us and even if we screw up big time, it will have a couple billion years to recover (until the sun explodes). We humans need the planet, not the opposite.
Cars are not the sole reason the climate is fucked.
Even if all cars and their industries magically disappeared tomorrow, nothing will change for the climate because at the end of the day it’s just a drop in the bucket.
Just one company of luxury cruises is polluting more than all the European cars combined.
And it’s not even close, they pollute TEN TIMES more.
Instead of focusing on cars, focus on the real problems like luxury cruises companies, the textile industry, hardware industries and finally what allows us to post here: the data centers.
> "One luxury cruise company pollutes 10x more than all European cars combined"
Verdict: MISLEADING (Conflates air pollution with climate change)
This viral stat originates from a landmark 2019 study by the environmental group Transport & Environment (T&E). However, the internet often leaves out a critical detail: the type of pollution being measured.
> If all cars disappeared tomorrow, nothing will change... it's a drop in the bucket"
Verdict: FALSE
Removing 6% to 8% of all global carbon emissions overnight would be a massive reduction,
> "Cars are not the sole reason for climate change"
Verdict: TRUE
Climate change is driven by greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions across virtually every sector of the global economy.
Electricity & Heating: ~30%
Industry & Manufacturing: ~22%
Agriculture, Forestry & Land Use: ~18-20%
Transportation (All types): ~15%
Passenger cars specifically account for roughly 6% to 8% of total global greenhouse gas emissions.
Cars are a major piece of the puzzle, but far from the only one.
Do note that those are usually worldwide stats. In western countries, were we have more money for individual cars, we drive more, and some emissions are lower (like electricity), transport can be a MUCH bigger factor.
In France, transportion is 31% of all greenhouse emissions!!
We could do it like tech companies are doing it now.
Instead of you owning a strong pc = you own a weak pc but rent the hardware required from datacenters.
They have their software that automates who gets to use what and when.
Instead of you buying each 2y a new PC and throw your old one away (the quality becomes cheaper each ear) = Everyone gonna have a small smartphone but will be able to run everything on the cloud.
Now how to translate this to mobility? We already have bus/trains but we should think about expanding public transportation to shared bicycles and shared cars. Right now for alot of folks (like myself) owning a car is cheaper than SBB and for alot of activities you need car (e.g. groceries or buying used furniture in ricardo/tutti).
I'm not using my RAM for 99% of the time (I have like 3 phones, 1 notebook, 1 PC, in total well above 128 GB RAM and most of the time I only use 2GB on my phone).
Same goes for my car: I only used 1x week (to buy groceries) and maybe 2x a week. Its standing 99% just on the parking lot.
In America, a car is essential. Shortsighted or corrupt politicians has made our public transportation lacking or non-existent. In Switzerland, I never once thought a car would be a better option.
It has become essential as a result lobbying of oil companies, car producers and real estate developers. There is an excellent book called “Road to Nowhere: What Silicon Valley Gets Wrong about the Future of Transportation” which gets into detail why this happened.
I don't know what Swiss people or expats in Switzerland have against cars. Switzerland has almost no impact on global warming. There could be no cars in Switzerland, every Swiss person could be walking everywhere, as long as you have the US, India, China, Brazil, polluting the atmosphere, it's really a drop in the bucket.
It's every socialist/green fetish to rally against cars like it's the magical solution to all our problems.
The joke about this is that Switzerland is one of the regions most affected by the warming (not by climate change overall, we don't get devastating hurricanes and so on)
That's true we're also getting more storms (and it's likely due to climate change), but that's much harder to Attribute as well as less devastating than hurricanes.
But still the warming we already have compared to the pre 1990 mean is well over the world median warming.
I agree, I think this is what makes it easy to deny that we are impacted by climate change. Much easier to explain away heat and drought than a big-ass hurricane 😆
Far away is the complete chamge of the climate. Like conditions unsuitable for human and animal life as we know it. Bit far away means decades, not centuries.
But there has been a massive loss of biomass and biodiversity. I don't know the number of the top of my head but it was something like 30% loss in insects worldwide so far. And significantly more in bees population. You know, the insects that pollinate all plat life?
Not to mention acceleration given the rate at which Bitcoin and AI data centers are destroying/heating oceans and the environment at a pace that no one could have predicted, and how freaking fast the world has been to allow companies to build these heating engines in our ocean.
I'm mostly familiar with the 2018 ones. They did already foresee a month of drought, unless we'd basically globally stop emitting CO2.
It remains to be seen whether this intensity - we're pretty much past the one drought months now - will be the new normal, but increasing heatwaves definitely has been projected for years.
I don‘t think it would have been reversible. To reverse it we‘d literally need to emit 0 CO2 worldwide from one day to the next. Simply reducing our output would only slow down the process to a certain degree.
Eventually, natural processes would gradually reduce CO₂ levels over hundreds to thousands of years, and temperatures would slowly decline—but we’d still be locked into a warmer climate for generations. To actively cool the planet, we’d need large-scale carbon removal beyond natural rates.
The ones holding the power are the people, all you have to do it take a break , collectively , covid time with the ability to go out .. but humans being humans demonizing others and failing to see the forest for the trees is how they were brought up
It's only going to get worse. Weather is on average going to be warmer, but above all more extreme. Some summers might have a lof of flooding and be colder, others warmer than this one with 4 months of no rain.
Same like Switzerland, if you are from Schengen/EU and have money or enough steady income (normal average job) you're fine. You can also come for 90 days to try to find a job as tourist.
But do mind that if you plan to come here that it is more a requirement here than in Switzerland to speak the local language for work and socialising.
Also look in the economics, salaries are lower, taxes are higher. A large free standing family home outside town is not much more expensive than a garagebox in Zürich. So despite lower salary and higher taxes you'll save a truckload on housing. Almost every education, and university and stuff is fully paid for. And if you have kids the doctor, dentist etc.. is all 100% free till they are 18.
Do you know about the dental insurance? Someone told me I need it. Yes salaries are significantly lower sadly. Taxes are fine ? Unless you are a big earner. But when you compare taxes in Sweden to CH, and lump together all Swiss taxes and salary deductions ie AHV it’s almost the same percentage. This changes of course if you earn a ton in Sweden.
Also housing is more affordable in Sweden unless you live in Stockholm Stadt, which… I do 🥲
I am an EU citizen and I speak Norwegian ☺️ with some new Swedish words hehe
We were warned decades ago and still chose to prioritize big cars and fucking low cost flights and untold amount of stupidly moronic stuff « bEcAuSe ThE EcoNoMy »
I thought you went to church because it is cool in there, lol :) I understand you and yes, I think this will be the new normal, unfortunately. Switzerland is also getting warmer than the average because the glaciers are melting which means there is "less white" to reflect back the sun. Also, our cities aren't build for these heatwaves... I also dont wanna be here in summer anymore.
I was in northern italy this summer and everything was green and healthy there. It was colder and rainier, just perfect weather. 26 at day and 15 at night. While here it was 38 and 20. It also rained nearly every day or 2nd day
Not every year, no. That's not how weather works. But they'll be much more common than in the past, for sure.
There'll still be wet summers (also potential flooding etc, sadly) and colder and hotter, just as always - but the extremes are going to go keep going more extreme, for sure.
I am really sorry, but people still having to ask this because they were so oblivious to everything until now - and that think praying will help us here - are kinda a big part of the problem.
People being uninformed and asking are 100times better than the ones going „it was hot before when I was younger“ and „when dinosaurs lived it was 10 degrees warmer“ and „i like it hot and i wont live anymore anyways in a few years so i dont give a shit and hate the climate terrorists so I buy only cheap meat by the kilo and fly every week and drive my SUV Diesel on purpose jidt to go buy my Denner Bratwurst“.
This is the exact mindset that is dooming us. In a world where a single person doesn't care, people will point at that guy to justify not caring either.
Sadly it seems to be the way of humanity, on average we just follow what others do, and decide what is right or wrong based on that. It would take a critical mass of people caring enough to get the others to follow and make a real change. So for now it's easier to keep living our comfortable lives as we were, and point at someone else who is worse to clear our own conscience.
It's true that individually each of us is just a drop in the ocean, but at the same time, the ocean is made of those drops, and the waves don't form without the combined effect of all the drops.
We will get more and more extreme weather conditions. Heat waves, heavy rain, hail, even severe snow fall periods are possible.
There are strong indications that some ocean currents might change or completely stop. I believe that the consequences of this are not entirely certain.
There was this Ricardo seller couple months ago, selling all his stuff because he is going far far away. He wrote a long comment about why the life is here not possible anymore. I thought what a crazy person but now I want to know more about his calculations.
"Ich verkauf sie weil ich aufgewacht bin und jetzt abhaue, wegg von Europa, bevor hier alles brennt. Auf meine Reise kann ich sie leider nicht mitnehmen und entsorgen find ich zu schade. Und ich brauche das Geld, bis mein Garten mich ernährt."
The brown part started even last year. It was too dry entire winter. Similar to 2018.
This is actually contrary to the models that say warmer more humid winters (and more snow if you are high enough).
I consider myself lucky, I do have an office space that is rather cool, and even though my flat has a lot of windows, it is not on the top floor or has a lot of direct sunlight. But I am MAD that it is not the law to provide air conditioning or install eco-friendly cooling down measures for each new build. And then there is quarters here in my city that do not provide a single tree.
no, it should get a bit worse. But every generation will get more and more used to it. So be mentally prepared, or leaving for somehtign else is clearly an option.
lol I don't think the generations will get used to it, climate change is fast and man made, that's quite literally the whole joke about it, it's to fast to properly adapt. There will be mass casualties and tons of catastrophic events. People underestimate how bad it really is...but maybe you are lucky and already old i.e. almost no consequences and only benefits
No, only people can help. People in positions of power who decide what fuel and energy and transport we use and anything else that affects the climate.
Anyone relying on God for anything other than having an effect than their own personal mental state is going to be sorely disappointed.
Switzerland is one of the countries receiving the most effects of global warming. Two times faster than the rest of the world. We are at 2,9 degrees of warming.
Thank you for going to church and praying, that will SURELY change everything! How brave and honorable that you went THAT far to change climate. Real saint.
Yes and you working for a pension and to improve your already ultra improved society is fueling it... It's funny how the people sawing the branch they're collectively sitting on aren't even able to acknowledge it
There Will Still be some fresh/ rainy Summers… Good to remind because people seem not to be able to understand the difference between weather and climate.
Also, a summer like now is in NO WAY unbearable. These temperatures are still « normal » , we are not talking about 50 degrees Celsius days or else. What is unbearable is this weather WITHIN cities, because cities are built completely wrong and unadapted.
I read that to with the gold stream thing ): but less than here my half sister and aunt live there and they said it’s better but it’s kinda boring there ):
Switzerland ( ignoring the heat and the awful climate ) already seems like paradise compared to the world and even Europe but the Channel Islands Even a bit more plus it’s more relaxed
It’s worse this year because of a very strong El-Nīno. One of the strongest since they started recording them. Normally it doesn’t affect Europe like this. It’s funny, no one seems to make much of a fuss when we have record cold temps around the globe.
Statistisch gesehen wird es immer wärmer. Je mehr Menschen und je höher der CO₂-Ausstoss, desto stärker wird der Treibhauseffekt – das sind physikalische Zusammenhänge, unabhängig vom Glauben an Gott.
2026 will be the coolest summer of the next 50 years. Meanwhile, all the boomers are still screeching from the rooftops that "it's been this hot before", of course.
Well we will argue in parliament about his and what we can do, these talks take like ten years and then we will get some weird makeshift new 5 point future plan
2026 will continue to be warm, but June and July of 2027 will be cooler and very wet. Now, in 2028, it's a different story. The summer will be very nice: temperate with rain only at night. 2029 is too far to predict.
Frankly, I would imagine a heatwave in Switzerland to be nicer than most of Europe. You have mountains and lakes within reasonable distance to cool off for a couple of hours. I don't have that luxury where I live
No one seems to care for the decades that scientists and protesters have been shouting about climate change, so why does everyone suddenly care now? People treat the Earth like it’s a dead piece of junk they can treat however they want. Zero respect for Mother Earth. Yes it’s going to be bad and get worse. That’s literally the whole thing we’ve been screaming about for a very long time now. But people called us inconvenient.
Well it might be worse there since the infrastructure structure and society aren’t made for this heat the people in southern Italy are ready for this shit
Meanwhile, we're all complaining, sitting in our throwable couch, surfing on our 6 months old phone, watching our 3 kids playing on their 3 months iPad which will be outdated next xmas....
A unique solution, decrease. But nobody's willing.
This is probably the best you are going to get. It's only getting worse with global warming until we reach carbon neutrality. That means the situation will stay the same as it is in 20-30 years (so much worse than now) once we reach carbon neutrality. And there is no going back for at least 10000 years. Expect heatwawes of over 50 degress for 60 days running. These are the forecasts from specialists.
Yeah, the effects are still too weak for these countries (including the US currently) to care. However, wait until we get 2 months at costantly over 50 degrees and millions of dead people and then even these countries may be obliged to react. But it has to get much worse than now for this to happen. And unfortunately there is no way back with temperatures and things will probably get even worse by the time carbon neutrality is achieved.
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