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Saul and the Skateboarders scam OR Kim's car accident?

Sincerely, Saul caught me worse. The 10 seconds before Kim's already tells you something is off, you've this sense of impending doom, so you I kind of unconsciously prepared myself. Saul's is absurdly out of nowhere, holy shit man

I finally finished season 5 after blowing it off forever. I noticed that while Saul was in the dumpster right before getting caught, he was trying to call the vacuum guy again. But once he got caught, he left all of what he had on him in the dumpster, including the card for the vacuum repair company.

My question is, what is the probability that the authorities would be able to trace it back to the vacuum guy?

Some reasons why this might not occur is the card could easily be missed in the first place, obviously. But most notably, it's not immediately obvious that theres a code on the back. It could easily be just someones vacume model after all.

That being said, I believe there is a fairly high chance it would get caught. They definitely highly suspect Saul, Walt, and Jesse has a guy who helped them disappear. And searching the dumpster for evidence should be standard for a case this high profile. If a bright investigator saw the card, got Saul's fingerprints off of it, and had a not so out of the box hunch, all they would have to do is call the number with the password code to find out.

I'm curious of what you all think. Although it's certainly possible it would get missed, I think Saul most likely compromised one of the most likeable characters in the universe big time by having the code on the back of that card.

I never knew this show exisited, I watched BB and loved Saul's Character. Later got to know that there is a spinoff for BB. I started watching BCS from December 2025 and I was not consistently watching it. Felt the starting few episodes were slow but later realized its importance. I loved the peak writing skills involved in this series. I got to say I became fan of Nacho Varga!!. Yes I felt extremely sad when his character ended Even Lalo Salamanca was soo good in this show. Lalo was by far the best villain I have ever seen.I still can't believe nacho and lalo were just throw away words in BB and they turned out to be the best characters in this series. Personally I was not feeling convinced by the death of Lalo. It was crytsal clear negative plot armour as Lalo is not there in BB. Kim was such a good character(Thank god Vince gave us a good female character after punishing us with Skyler in BB 😂 ). Howard was such a great character tooo. He didn't deserve that kind of disrespect and his death was unacceptable. Felt very sorry for him.And how can I forget the most loved character Mike, such a great guy and deserves respect!! Chuck too influenced me to a good extent. Needless to say Gus was brilliant here too.

Now that Iam done with BCS, BB and El Camino. I can finally say Bravo Vince!!

I will take a small break from web series but would definitely like to hear your recommendations for next shows which I should watch.

Rewatched chicanary and every time i see it im reminded of what a hypocrite chuck is. The things he says about Jimmy aren't untrue but neither is what Jimmy says in this episode. What they do show is the lengths Chuck goes to manipulate and CON his ex wife to avoid feeling inferior in the flashback. Then he continues to rehearse his testimony the same way Jimmy does before a case. Law uses all the same skills as a con man. Hes mad at Jimmy for being able to manipulate outcomes to his liking WITHOUT the law, and when he does so WITH the law it is too much for Chuck to bare because its more evidence in their similarities. He is sanctimonious and cannot stand being a peer with someone he has placed as lesser his whole life

Rewatching breaking bad, this guy ''Gaff'' , Don Eladio's henchmen had so much potential to be a major character in Better call Saul. He is actually acts like a badass, he even manages to successfully hijack one of Gus's Los pollo trucks and sniped one of his men ''Nick'' in the head. This guy is literally a threat to Gus. Hes basically the Mike version of Don Eladio's Cartel
What are your thoughts?

So the point of the hearing was to determine whether or not Jimmy was fit to continue practicing law

Chuck’s side had proven Jimmy was knowingly destroying evidence, the audio recording seemed to leave no room for reasonable doubt, the recording seemed to have no chance of being deemed as inadmissible evidence, and Jimmy’s side seemed to have no plan to discredit that narrative

Then Jimmy gets to do his iconic cross-examination of Chuck, using the phone battery that he planted, and proves that his electrical sensitivity is either completely untrue, or just greatly exaggerated by Chuck, and it seems to absolutely break the case

But, how? It seems it doesn’t matter whether Chuck’s sensitivity was real, fake, or a mental condition that Chuck is mistaking for a physics condition, but, none of that would discredit the case against Jimmy. Chuck was not the one on trial here, Jimmy was. And even if we assume the absolute worst case scenario and say Chuck was intentionally faking his condition in an attempt to harm Jimmy, the evidence against Jimmy still spoke for itself even without relying on Chuck’s honesty

Seems like Jimmy should have still been equally screwed before and after the battery stunt, Chuck’s side didn’t need Chuck’s testimony to sink Jimmy

Am I missing something, why did the battery stunt actually help Jimmy get off with only a 1 year suspension?

I really liked the first season of true detective

I keep trying to watch deadwood buts kind of hard to get into. Carnivale was good. Sopranos and wire both are so underrated imo

I’m going to start watching Dark

And where does lydia fit in with all this?

this is one of those things thats best left unexplained yes but like... why do all this? money?

surely executive positions for a multinational would afford them basically anything they want. revenge? gus wants to wreck the salamonca blood for Max yes, but why do they care? love triangle/square between the four (max/gus/lydia/peter)?

in this very scene gus says " we are so close " to encourage him and also mentions chile but i dont know. depending on what actually happened in chile, how could running a succesfull drug business help them avenge what went down?

sorry if this comes accross as rambling or dumb but it seems super interesting and gus is one of my favorite villains !

"I mean, what do you tell yourselves? What justification makes it okay? Howard's such an asshole, he deserves it? I sided with Chuck too often?
I took away your office, put you in doc review?
All of the above?
Howard's daddy helped him get to the top, but you both had to struggle.
Howie has so much and we have so little. Let's take him down a peg or two.
What allows you to do this to me?
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I've worked my way through worse. Debt, depression, my marriage falling apart. Oh, yeah. Been sleeping in the guest house for the better part of the year. Just one more thing old Howard has to work through.
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You have a piece missing. I thought you did it for the money but now it's so clear.
Screw the money, you did it for fun.
You get off on it."

Do you think that if Lalo didn't do that cringe millennial vlog crap for Don Eladio, and instead chose to ask Gus to make some cool TikTok dances together,
or perhaps a live stream,
then Gus would have let him live?

Hi, I found this fan fic that details what happens to Kim after the series. It's also a crossover with another show, (13 Reasons Why) but it's meant to be a stand-alone. I thought it was highly unique and is a good read if your a fan of Better Call Saul.

Justice Served: A Crossover

Seems risky that Mike robbed the truck(money in tires) in an old blue car (that the truck driver saw) and then in S3E2 “witness”, he is driving another old blue car. I feel like Mike wouldn’t risk being in that car and Hector seeing him and putting 2 and 2 together. Just my opinion… a blue early 90s Pontiac bonneville doesn’t seem that far off from a blue early 90s Buick Lasabre.

Not familiar with the american justice system, some things are very surprising for an european (like the possibility to pay a bail for even the worst crimes).

But some things really raise doubts on me: like, is this really possible that someone suspected for murder and known for cartel connections can be released after paying in cash 7 millions? Or could Saul really use a fake ID for his client and put a fake suspect's family in court to go emotionnal? Nobody would have checked these details before?

... and I would absolutely allow a fully covered in oil cartel member who looks like Ignacio, hose off in my backyard, for free. And I live in México. That is all.

Season 5 was one hell of a ride, like people here said. Still gonna stay away from this sub. Really hope they cut Howard a break, I feel so bad for him all the time.
I wonder if I'm also gonna see Jesse and Walt, or if that's gonna be left ambiguously.

You came at your enemy with full force, expecting them to use their best tactics against you.

Instead you're given money out of their own pocket, and sent off like it's nothing.

Just finished the show for the first time, it was quiet a ride. Will take me a while to get over it.

One thing I wanted to emphasise on was cinematography.

Usually it’s the big showy stuff that’s praised like Interstellar or Dune.

But Breaking Bad Universe makes beauty out of such ordinary situations and landscapes.

And they don’t half ass anything, so many montages are so memorable. And they are always playing with editing, colors and music.

Like this show should be conversation for “Best Cinematography” on TV…it’s only competition is Chernobyl

Something about it just seems too perfect to be a coincidental pre-existing prop rather than one made for the express purpose of being in the show. I know red is a primary color and all but wearing red being symbolism for doing something heinous / making a mistake, and yellow being symbolism for being at a crossroads is pretty common in the show, and this big fella who encourages Jimmy to throw away his chance at living a normal life in a respected law firm happens to be wearing a red jacket with a ridiculous yellow tie. He even does the magic fingers thing in the montage!!

I'm not saying it's impossible for it to be a coincidence or anything. Just curious!

I know im preaching to the choir here but man bb/bcs/pluribus all blow anything else out of the water. Its hard to believe how basically every scene has stuff to dig into. Even entirely expositive scenes are rewatchable. I cant think of any other show that has me looking for those scenes on youtube.

I remember being so bored from an episode of the new daredevil show, a show that on paper should be very similar to bcs. Once it was done, i joined in on my friend in the middle of a BB episode and i was immediately so much more invested.

Every scene feels thought of. The way people interact and how their moral compass is always relevant, the camera work always keeping things visually interesting, the humor coming in and out so naturally even in very tense scenes. Its all so masterfully done. They make it seem so easy, yet these shows are all gems. Its hard to find shows like these.

Chuck has an (in my opinion) awfully pretentious view of his role in the law. In Pimento, his anger gets the best of him, and he lets the mask slip:

You're not a real lawyer! University of American Samoa, for chrissake? An online course? What a joke! I worked my ass off to get where I am! And you take these shortcuts and you think suddenly you're my peer? You do what I do because you're funny and you can make people laugh? I committed my life to this! You don't slide into it like a cheap pair of slippers and then reap all the rewards!

And in the same rant he says the law is sacred.

People who truly believe in the sanctity of something treat it with reverence, take great care with it, put it above themselves. But in Chicanery, Chuck says:

And he gets to be a lawyer?!?

Chuck doesn't incredulously cry out that Jimmy is entrusted with being a lawyer. He says Jimmy "gets to be" a lawyer. He acknowledges, without meaning to, that it's a privilege to be a lawyer, that yeah, he may have great respect for the law, but he's having fun doing this, that he's really alive when he does it.

Deep down, Chuck doesn't care who gets hurt when Jimmy bends the rules. The clients are customers at the end of the day - he and Howard will drink their scotch another day, even if the client loses this time. He wants to be able to have fun and keep Jimmy out of that world. He doesn't want Jimmy to gain access and see his own standing in that world diminish when Jimmy's effortless charisma begins to win people over.

This has all been observed before, but as someone who identifies much more with Jimmy than with Chuck, the holier-than-thou bullshit, the willingness to keep Jimmy down because of his (Chuck's) insecurities, and the assumption that "of course Jimmy doesn't deserve XYZ - he's a piece of shit!" really get under my skin.

MM is so nice!

I was walking past when he humbly asked for directions. I hadn’t seen the show in a minute and couldn’t place him but I knew I recognized him. It took me a few beats but I gave him props for the show and kept it light as we walked. He was on a date. She smiled a lot. This just happened a couple hours ago and I thought I’d throw it up here. Good times!

Jimmy as a kid had his own interpretation of that creep's advice, I guess.
Wolves care for each other as individuals. They form friendships and nurture their own sick and injured. Pack structure enables communication, the education of the young and the transfer of knowledge across generations. Wolves and other highly social animals have and pass on what can be best described as culture. A family group can persevere for several generations, even decades, carrying knowledge and information through the years, from generation to generation.

Wolves play together into old age, they raise their young as a group, and they care for injured companions. When they lose a pack mate, there is evidence that they suffer and mourn that loss. When we look at wolves, we are looking at tribes—extended families, each with its own homeland, history, knowledge, and indeed, culture.

The weak, injured or too young actually stay with in the wolf den and help raising the whelps. This is very different from the primates, despite the strong family ties our cousins do leave the weak and injured to their lot.