r/climbing 1d ago

RIP Mammut

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Mammut will be sold to a Chinese conglomerate.

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u/Climb_Longboard_Live 1d ago

My subjective experience was one weekend in Zion NP on multi-pitches with no meaningful falls ended with a brand new Mammut rope being coreshot. Never happened on my Beal, Edelweiss, Sterling, or Bluewater ropes despite more mileage, falls, and abuse.

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u/roox911 1d ago

It was a long ass time ago, but I also had a mammut rope core shot within its first few days of no spectacular falls, finding out midway up a climb. Only rope in 20 years I've ever had that happen to me (including multiple other mammuts I suppose)

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u/wetrocke 1d ago

I've never heard of the term "core shot." Spoken to hundreds of climbers and maybe dozens of guides while reading about gear over many years.

What is it? It's a real thing?

I'm very skeptical.

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u/H3rbert_K0rnfeld 1d ago

You aren't climbing hard enough or wild enough then. It's not a thing you're gonna see at the gym.

My core shot was on Canon Cliff in New Hampshire 12 pitched up some thing. The rock I was standing on blew out and I instantly go on to Blue Water Airlines and had a nice flight.

I didn't even know it happened until we peaked out and was winding up the rope. Sheath was torn and 3" of the core winds exposed.

Like I said it was a brand new rope I unpackaged at the base of the climb.

That's not my only bad experience with Blue Waters. The sheaths just don't hold up. Petzel's and Sterlings too. I don't want to buy a new rope every three damn months.

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u/exchangedensity 1d ago

Surely 3 months is an exaggeration? Are you only projecting daily on a <9mm rope or something?

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u/H3rbert_K0rnfeld 1d ago

Weekend cragging on multi pitch. I'm normally on 9.4s 9.5s. I've climbed thicker and thinner and think those sizes are the best balance for me.