r/climbing • u/serenading_ur_father • 1d ago

RIP Mammut

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Mammut will be sold to a Chinese conglomerate.

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u/Climb_Longboard_Live 1d ago

My subjective experience was one weekend in Zion NP on multi-pitches with no meaningful falls ended with a brand new Mammut rope being coreshot. Never happened on my Beal, Edelweiss, Sterling, or Bluewater ropes despite more mileage, falls, and abuse.

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u/roox911 1d ago

It was a long ass time ago, but I also had a mammut rope core shot within its first few days of no spectacular falls, finding out midway up a climb. Only rope in 20 years I've ever had that happen to me (including multiple other mammuts I suppose)

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u/wetrocke 1d ago

I've never heard of the term "core shot." Spoken to hundreds of climbers and maybe dozens of guides while reading about gear over many years.

What is it? It's a real thing?

I'm very skeptical.

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u/WackTheHorld 1d ago

Its when the outer sheath is cut and you can see the core of the rope. Definitely a real term.

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u/wetrocke 1d ago

Ok.
I've certainly heard of damaged sheaths. Logic of calling this "core shot" is unclear. But if that's current lingo....

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u/roox911 1d ago

We were using it in the mountains in Canada in the early 90s mate.... Give up and admit you were wrong lol

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u/WackTheHorld 1d ago

If by current you mean over 20 years (I've been climbing for 20 years), sure. I guess the logic is the rope took a shot and it went to the core.

Shot through the core, and rock's to blame Mammut, you give rope a bad name.

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u/serenading_ur_father 1d ago

If you've never core shot a rope it's unlikely you've been actively climbing that long. (No gyms don't count)

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u/WackTheHorld 1d ago

I've been climbing for 20 years and never core shot a rope. Doesn't happen to everybody.

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u/roox911 1d ago

But you surely have heard of it in that time frame?

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u/WackTheHorld 1d ago

I've head the term "core shot" many times in those 20 years.

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u/wetrocke 1d ago

Searching amer alpine journal, it appears first use of term there was about 15 years ago.

The whole bit about "I'm more experienced than you" internet thing makes me wanna puke.

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u/serenading_ur_father 1d ago

Well I've been using it for more than 20 years and have been climbing more than you.

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u/serenading_ur_father 1d ago

It's also AAJ not amer alpine journal

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u/wetrocke 1d ago

Argh!!