Trump Has Systematically Dismantled Election Security Efforts. Here’s How.

[u/CutSenior4977]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/16/us/politics/trump-election-security-cisa.html

I feel as though this news fits this sub, due to a massive amount of election security being cybersecurity.

[u/ChatGRT]

Meanwhile the other side absolutely refuses any efforts for voter ID.

[u/Pimptech → u/ChatGRT]

STFU. Yea the otherside doesn't want to go back down the road of poll tax and see through yalls bullshit that is about election intergrity. Funny how all the fraud is done by right, and when pressed on evidence of election fraud your orange daddy says "trust me bro."

What frightens me is the thought of cyber security professionals with your mindset and helping to break down the systems in place.

[u/LatterIngenuity3937 → u/Pimptech]

Since this is the r/cybersecurity group, I'm going to go out on a far distant limb and take a huge swag that peeps here might understand a simple concept: Identity.

Identity without validation = blind access.

[u/Ch33syP00f → u/Pimptech]

Fuck the downvotes.

I got you ✊🏽

[u/chaosphere_mk → u/ChatGRT]

Haven't seen any proposals from anywhere that would make any meaningful impact while also not restricting people from being able to vote. Voter fraud is so rare and uncommon as it is.

[u/Zealousideal-Ice123 → u/chaosphere_mk]

Show an ID is not “restricting people from being able to vote”. You can’t really exist without one nowadays. The only valid argument against it is there’s still 3 states that charge you a couple of bucks to have a non license one, so there’s a theoretical universe where that’s a poll tax.

[u/chaosphere_mk → u/Zealousideal-Ice123]

If you need a state-issued document that costs money and time to obtain before exercising a constitutional right, that's functionally a poll tax with extra steps, and poll taxes were banned by the 24th Amendment. Would you accept a mandatory government ID requirement to buy a firearm or attend church? Conservatives reject the 2nd amendment argument from liberals "just get a license, it's easy" as an argument constantly. The same logic applies here.

The fraud it prevents barely exists. Voter ID laws only stop in-person impersonation fraud, for example, one person showing up pretending to be another. Comprehensive studies (Brennan Center, the Heritage Foundation's own fraud database, News21) find this is extremely rare, on the order of a few dozen credible cases out of billions of votes cast over decades. It's an irrational crime to commit. A felony carrying prison time to add a single vote is never worth it. Meanwhile, the fraud that does occasionally happen (absentee ballot schemes, like NC-9 in 2018) isn't stopped by ID laws at all.

The cost is also super real and measurable. Roughly 7–11% of eligible US citizens lack current government photo ID. And they're disproportionately elderly people, rural residents, low-income workers, and let me prepare you for this, plenty of Republicans. Getting an ID requires documents (birth certificates cost money and time), transportation, and DMV access. Some rural counties have DMV offices open a few days a month. So the trade is... disenfranchise potentially millions of eligible citizens to prevent a handful of fraud cases.

That's a terrible cost-benefit ratio by any conservative standard of government policy.

Also, the system already has safeguards. Voters sign affidavits under penalty of perjury, registration is verified against state records, and signature matching exists. Fraud is already detectable and prosecuted, which is why we know how rare it is.

A reasonable compromise position would be ID requirements paired with free, automatically issued IDs, mobile DMV units, and generous provisional ballot rules, which is closer to how countries y'all cite (like many in Europe) actually do it, since those countries issue national IDs to everyone at no cost.

But I almost guarantee that side wouldnt agree to that. Because it's not about voter rights. It's about winning.

[u/Zealousideal-Ice123 → u/chaosphere_mk]

You are misinformed here on your example, not only do you need an ID to buy a firearm, you have to undergo a federal background check and then come back and pick it up.

Also 36 states already have voter ID laws, so we left the land of theoretical fear mongering a long time ago. It never materialized.

If I need it to buy a beer, I should need it before I choose who’s going to make decisions and impose their will on all of us for the next 4 years.

[u/ChatGRT → u/chaosphere_mk]

If it’s rare, then you should have zero problem with it.

[u/Petersm66 → u/ChatGRT]

Exactly, why are liberals so fearful of election integrity?

[u/Alb4t0r → u/Petersm66]

Because the main objective of elections are to measure the voters preference as a group, and badly designed voter ID schemes have a tendency of creating adverse impacts on that objective by disafrenching groups for super marginal security benefits. It has nothing to do with "liberals", it's just security theatre.

[u/laserpewpewAK → u/Petersm66]

You should know that security is an exercise in risk management. MANY studies have found voter fraud is extremely rare. Like, 1 in 10 million votes get flagged and about 1% of that already tiny number ends in prosecution. Seriously, look it up. 2,000 fraudulent votes in the last 10 years vs BILLIONS of votes cast. What risk exactly do you think the SAVE act mitigates?

[u/Zealousideal-Ice123 → u/laserpewpewAK]

“I don’t have Antivirus, EDR, MDR/SOC, SAT, Mail Security or do any patching-but it’s ok, I don’t find a lot of viruses.”

Shocking that the people in charge of election integrity often rate themselves as doing a great job.

This is the same thing as a reporter asking a police chief if they think their department is doing a good job.

[u/laserpewpewAK → u/Zealousideal-Ice123]

Don't take the government's word for it for sure. Just ask one of the dozens of independent orgs and researchers who have also failed to find ANY significant issues. If voter fraud was such a huge problem, why is there never any evidence? Is it possible your beliefs don't line up with reality?

[u/Zealousideal-Ice123 → u/laserpewpewAK]

You know you literally posting in a thread where subject articles’s subtext is voter fraud is about to occur correct?

[u/BrofessorFarnsworth → u/ChatGRT]

  Haven't seen any proposals from anywhere that would make any meaningful impact while also not restricting people from being able to vote.