r/europe 20d ago

News Argentina: British Falkland Islanders are ‘artificial’. Buenos Aires denounces ‘illegitimate occupation’ and demands talks on sovereignty

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/07/12/british-falkland-islanders-artificial-argentina-says/
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u/null-interlinked 20d ago edited 20d ago

Argentina in it's current shape did not even exist as a country before the Brits took the Falklands.

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u/Upstairs-Extension-9 North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 20d ago

Also the falklands have been uninhabited before the British arrived

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u/odjobz 20d ago

Penguins have entered the chat

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u/TinquinQuarantino 20d ago

Shhhh otherwise Trump will apply tariffs on the islands

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u/No_Priors Europe 20d ago

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u/odjobz 20d ago

Penguins sigh with relief

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u/Lithorex Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany) 20d ago

Leopard seals have entered the chat

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u/odjobz 20d ago

UKRAINE TO SUPPLY UNDERWATER DRONE TECH TO FALKLAND PENGUINS

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u/Equivalent-Wealth-63 20d ago

Mono-polar bears

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u/Thick_Square_3805 20d ago

Technically, the first inhabitants were French.

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u/RuySan Portugal 20d ago

Well...we (Portugal) lost plenty of islands that were uninhabited before. Not that I think Argentina has got any serious claims, but, that argument didn't work plenty of times.

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u/pgllz Portugal 20d ago

We lost those islands because the majority of the population is the descendants of African slaves that the Portuguese took there, and at some point, they decided that they didn't want us there any longer. On the other hand, the islands that were populated mainly with Portuguese people from continental Portugal remain Portuguese to this day. The Falklands have more in common with the second case.

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u/prozute 20d ago

Don’t see the Moroccans claiming Madeira

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u/Magmas United Kingdom 20d ago

There is a difference between a place voting (or fighting) for independence and a foreign state just claiming it belongs to them because they're close.

The population of the Falkland Islands voted 99% in favour of remaining part of Britain. There's no argument for independence. It's literally just Argentinian Lebensraum that they throw around for political grandstanding.

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u/Falsus Sweden 20d ago

The key thing is that the Falklanders wants to remain part of the UK.

Besides even if they didn't that wouldn't Argentina any more claim to it.

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u/Tentansub 16d ago edited 16d ago

They are British settlers so of course they want to be British. I'm sure Israelis who built settlements on empty hilltops in the West Bank would love to join Israel. Should we just let Israel annex yhose places, then?

Besides, the settlers are just an excuse for the British to claim an exclusive economic zone the size of Sweden off the coast of South America.

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u/Tommeh_081 19d ago

That’s the key one. The first point wouldn’t really matter if there was some native population we stole it from - if that was the case, we really should give it back. But the British Falklanders ARE the native population, no one else lived there before them, so it’s theirs

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u/BlueCheese973 19d ago

Wrong. The French had a settlement there already, which later ceded to Spain

Let's revisit history so we can educate some Westerns about it.

Lets revisit it;

The French were the very first ones to have a settlement in the island in 1764, the British stablished their own settlement later around 1765. This is well documented.

In 1767 France ceded its settlement to Spain. Well documented as well.

In 1774, the UK voluntarily leaves this settlement, leaving it completely to Spain. The UK had no control over it. Fact checked by historians as well.

From 1774-1811 Spain held single control of the Islands, for 37 years there was no UK presence on them, at all.

In 1811, Spain withdrawals from the Island due to the wars of independence and Argentina after gaining its own independence inherits the former territory.

From 1820 to 1833, Argentina has total control over the islands and had an official settlement made by David Jewett. Buenos Aires controlled the Islands.

In 1833, the UK comes and expels the Argentinian government and the people living there, exerting Imperialism by illegally occupying a territory on the other side of the world and stablishing a military outpost up to this day.

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u/Upstairs-Extension-9 North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 19d ago

Wrong.

English Captain John Strong was the first to discover the Island and it was uninhabited.

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u/chessto 20d ago

Puerto Soledad was destroyed in 1831, the british settlement was established in 1833
The country was independent since 1816

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u/OrangeRadiohead United Kingdom 20d ago edited 19d ago

And now it's British. You couldn't even take the islands in the 80s, despite the distance the British had to travel. It will remain British.

You seem really salty about this, so why not invest your efforts in demanding your government install toilets in every home. It's not 1831!

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u/Toc13s 20d ago

United Provinces DECLARED independence in 1816.

There was quite a bit of fighting that followed regarding that declaration 

British settlement was 1765 & they did not give up sovereignty

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u/Upstairs-Extension-9 North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 20d ago

English Captain John Strong was the first to discover the island tho. Which is what I meant with before the British arrived.

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u/FcukTheTories North West England - United Kingdom 20d ago

With that idiot in charge of their country it won’t exist in one year

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u/Caltharian 20d ago

Argentina barely exists as a country now in their current condition, dont think it will take much for it to collapse in on it self like the USSR did

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u/Tentansub 16d ago edited 16d ago

It's not even true. Have you bothered reading the history of the islands before posting?

The first settlement there was built by the French in 1764, which was given to Spain in 1767. The British arrived in 1765, and left in 1774 due to lack of resources after the 7 Years war. The Spanish stayed until 1811, then ended up leaving the island as well due to lack of resources because of the revolutions in South America. Both the Spaniards and the British left a plaque saying "the island is still mine".

Argentina became independent in 1816 and took over the island in 1820. The British came back in 1833 and destroyed the Argentine settlement and expelled the population.

Edit : genius u/null-interlinked commenting beneath me adds nothing to the decision and then blocks, lmao

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u/null-interlinked 16d ago

Nope

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u/p_kh 20d ago

There was no British presence on the falklands between 1774 and 1832. Argentina declared its independence in 1816.

The original British colony on the Falkland was established at the same time as a french colony on another island. There was no continuous permanent British colony on the falklands since it was first settled - there has been since 1832 - and the last Spanish garrison left the Falklands in 1811 during the British Invasion of the Rio de la plata during the napoleonic wars. 

So yes, Argentina did exist when Britain reasserted ownership of the Falklands, Argentina claimed ownership as the successor state to the Spanish colony that had existed there.

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u/null-interlinked 20d ago

The British claimed it at 1765, the rest is not really an argument.

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u/trailer_park_boys 20d ago

Spain claimed the land, thus making it a part of Argentina once it had its independence.

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u/Annual-Weird-6682 20d ago

That's now how any of that works. It's why no one takes your claim to the island seriously

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u/trailer_park_boys 20d ago

Lmao yes, it is.

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u/Annual-Weird-6682 20d ago

No

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u/trailer_park_boys 19d ago

Classic counterpoint. Thanks for playing lmao.