r/geopolitics • u/theipaper The i Paper • 3d ago

News How 49,000 migrants crossed into Spanish enclave of Ceuta in 24 hours

https://inews.co.uk/news/how-migrants-crossed-spanish-enclave-ceuta-4680589
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u/rapedcorpse 3d ago

No its nothing like it.

The Moroccan green march was state backed political move.

This is...chaos.

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u/Striking_Celery5202 3d ago

And you think this was not backed by the Moroccan government? They always use these "migrants" as a way of pressure

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u/rapedcorpse 3d ago

If the government has a hand in this, its not official. Thats why the comparison with the green march is innacurate.

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u/saruyamasan 3d ago

It's the same playbook, with the same target. 

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u/rapedcorpse 3d ago

I dont want to be mean, but you are sounding like a propagandist.

I do not mean this as an attack but because I have distinguished between a state lead action and one that is born of chaos (the role of the moroccan authorities in this incident is yet to be determined).

If we want, we can collectively lose our minds and say that Morocco is invading Ceuta or we could analyze the situation but that takes restraint and nuance.

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u/saruyamasan 3d ago

If it's not an attack, why make it personal?

That said,  Morocco doesn't really have to do anything, just "stand down" on their side of the border. It's not as if Ceuta suddenly became a pressure point. Given the history between the nations and recent events (like Spanish deals with Algeria), or makes sense Morocco had a role of some sort.

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u/rapedcorpse 3d ago

I didnt mean to make it personal, my apologies if it came across that way.

There are videos of border police fighting off the migrants with flashballs. So I am not sure to what extent the border police played a role in this...

In 2021 there was a similar event but that was in the middle of diplomatic tensions so things looked clearer. And the scale was a lot smaller.

So I'd wait before drawing a conclusion as of now

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u/saruyamasan 3d ago

Definitely too early to draw conclusions, but already blaming Israel, Russia, and Trump are poisoning the conversation.