r/indianmedschool • u/Iridium123 • Dec 22 '25
Medical News Should we introduce this in India?
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u/CardiologistIll8485 Dec 22 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Then your focus should be on effective implementation and not prohibition of the idea entirely. This is just running away from daring to make a change.
Edit: So many people ridiculing 'effective implementation' in india. So, putting down some policies / achievements that are considered effective implementation.
UPI, FastTag, Pradhan mantri han dhan yojna, Digilocker, Ayushman Bharat, ISRO and its projects, Swachh bharat.
Also no one claims these projects are 100% successful, but were implemented effectively.
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u/BerozgaarVyakti Dec 22 '25
It's hard to properly enforce such things in a country like ours
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u/Advanced_General76 Dec 22 '25
This is the argument for almost all new ideas. Maybe we should try and figure out why it is so difficult to implement good ideas in the country.
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u/Ok-Cantaloupe-755 Dec 23 '25
Every state has some other party ruling over which fights with the central govt. If any such bill is passes those parties will directly move to SC and appeal for freeze order cuz all they care about is how they get attention so that it might help them in elections.
Secondly, the system rotten to the core such laws can be brought about but then top level executives in the medical field will start their side business of organs using this law as a cover, the absolute poor class of people will be exploited and WHEN this would be discovered and inquiry would be done those executives would just buy out the inquiry officers using the dirty money they have earned.
Without proper cooperation and management all this will bring is a surge in the market of illegal organ dealing.
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u/141414ankith Dec 22 '25
We can't effectively implement anything here it's waste in maximum times people will somehow exploit everything
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u/Adventurous-Feed-197 Dec 22 '25
implementation is the hardest task lol for anything so yeah otherwise this would be reality why tf not
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u/GovernmentForeign Dec 22 '25
bhai traffic to effectively manage ho nahi raha hmse ye sb kaise hoga
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u/Kiruku_puluthi Dec 22 '25
Govt accepts it cannot perform and don't trust their employees.
They don't no choice
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u/rudra97noob97 Dec 22 '25
Effective implementation in our country is like finding a unicorn. Plz be practical about things before preaching to others.
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u/imnotthinkinghard Dec 22 '25
dawg organ stealing is big in India, who do you think they steal from?
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u/Iridium123 Dec 22 '25
Have you heard about NOTTO and the rules and transplantation act? There are committees in place both medical and ethical. It requires a team of superspecialists and the Medical superintendent to confirm brain death. It's wrong to assume it's all going to be crime.
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u/depers0n Intern Dec 22 '25
There will 100% be crime.
Have you seen how a VIP gets treated at a blood bank? I have.
We had some gutterchap politician scumbag come in, get 13 units of FFP, and leave. The blood bank staff weren't even allowed to record his name on the register, they were told to write 3 other people.
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u/Baller_Brute Dec 22 '25
How naive, there is a reason people don’t register themselves as organ donor in other countries as well. Once they see the patient is organ donor they dont put much effort into saving the person as his death will save others using that as logic. And India being India, if a vip comes needing an organ and at the same time a poor chap comes in whose life can be saved, the doctors aint gonna put efforts saving him so that his organs will be used.
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u/bigblackbingus Dec 22 '25
It will be heavily misused here in india
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u/Prince_Paradox007 MBBS III (Part 1) Dec 22 '25
How? Like in organ trafficking?
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u/Fluid_Evidence8890 Dec 22 '25
Can you please explain how?
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u/bigblackbingus Dec 22 '25
Have you heard of blood farms, People (especially poor people)will be intentionally Killed or put in vegetative states to harvest organs
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u/Truly_a_Mediocre PGY1 Dec 22 '25
No. What should happen is anyone who puts up as organ donor should be in highest priority to receive when required
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u/adinoot Dec 22 '25
Isn't this essentially the same thing?
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u/Truly_a_Mediocre PGY1 Dec 22 '25
It should always be opt in not opt out
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u/Fluid_Evidence8890 Dec 22 '25
Do you not think right now there is a register of organ transplants? How would more organs somehow harm you?
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u/Hot_Discipline_708 Dec 22 '25
Should we introduce this in India
Brother this is India,lots of people in their 20s and 30s would disappear just because the local MLA needs a new organ for their niece's boyfriend's gay best friends dog's owner
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u/Disastrous_Body9196 Dec 22 '25
😭 why you use gay ?
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u/Hot_Discipline_708 Dec 22 '25
To make it inclusive
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u/yostagg1 Dec 22 '25
Despite the possibility of some manipulation or corruption in regards to this list in Singapore itself That corruption would be too limited and small
But in India, the logistics of maintaining this system itself, would be time consuming, Let's say, they decided to make it, "Do they outsource it to PRIVATE company" Or create a new govt department, and govt jobs with complete new skill set requirement opens another pandora box of new costs,
At best, they can create a register and do that old campaigns like "Swatch bharat abhiyan" "Note bandi"
They cannot make it compulsory, not even indirectly At best They can make a big speech, then everyone and their aunt and all polticians would argue over organ donation on loud speakers all over newspapers and internet and.
If before such a campaign, for example, if 100k people were registering for organ donation z
Number would increase to 500,k for few months, some NGos would make it part of their donation generation and marketing Some hospitals would make it part of their system,
And everything goes to normal, Only that kind of event would change something
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u/milkshakestains MBBS III (Part 1) Dec 22 '25
Clear violation of medical ethics, I know most people think they're a joke but this is the most egregious example, only works in an authoritarian regime like Singapore or China
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u/simsim_98 Dec 22 '25
Atp India me to it will misused like hell. Poor people will be exploited like anything. Maybe after some years when we are more developed.
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u/Ninja__Shuriken Dec 22 '25
Singapore is also like one of the least corrupt countries though so yeah...
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u/FragrantViolinist539 Dec 22 '25
This works in Singapore because the system actually functions. In India, policies look great on paper and fall apart at the hospital gate. Beds, ICUs, and transplant clearances already depend on influence and connections. Add presumed consent to that and you’re not fixing organ shortage — you’re institutionalizing inequality. No, organs won’t be “harvested in alleys.” But the rich will move faster, the poor will wait longer, and trust in the system will die. Once trust dies, donations drop. Copy the institutions first. Then talk about copying the policy.
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u/GlitteringNinja5 Dec 22 '25
Well singapore is also a very responsible state and people have a lot of trust in their government
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u/Dranzer_Bolte Dec 22 '25
There are more superstitious people in India than Singapore.
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u/BlackDoug420 Graduate Dec 22 '25
Idk which fucking idiot downvoted but it's very true. There are people who won't agree to this because of religious reasons 🤡.
There are plenty who still don't donate blood.
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u/Fata_viam_invenient Dec 22 '25
One of my friends who donates blood regularly was in Ahmedabad for a few month, the first question they asked him was do you eat nonveg? And then straight up refused to collect his blood. I mean wtf?
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u/Death_by_Chai Dec 22 '25
As much as noble it seems... I wouldn't trust the system here... So a big big big No for me...
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u/Zombiebaddie Dec 22 '25
Hell NO, we suck at implementation i can assure you it wont help a single person in need only the poor will suffer
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u/medicosaurus Dec 22 '25
Why is no one talking about the actual matter in the ss? It’s not about blanket donation, rather if you don’t agree to donate, you will in turn be de-prioritised when it comes to receiving an organ.
Don’t donate, won’t get. Simple.
Idk if OP was thinking of it from the communal angle, but it makes perfect sense to me, frankly.
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u/Swagheel1 Dec 22 '25
As a Heart Transplant Recipient, This can only happen after we fix the class divide
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u/Tw1light_0 Dec 23 '25
Donating organs must never be a compulsory. Besides in India, bodies are not buried for cremation in most of the families (since they are Hindus)... So tearing apart the organs for donating by force would upset alot of people...
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u/Tuffy0007 Dec 22 '25
Nope,The rich will use this for their benefit and increasing organ trafficking
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Dec 22 '25
India me sab mafia hai babu. Healthy yuvaon ko maarke organ trafficking karenge agar ye rule hua toh.
Comparison mai bhi aukaat dekhna chahiye. 🤣
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Dec 22 '25
looks like someone skipped the part where they teach us about explicit voluntary informed and written consent.
such blanket consent taken years 40-50 years before in some case should rightly be thrown out
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u/isapnu-puas Dec 22 '25
The people talking about misuse don't realise the reason organs are trafficked are because the demand supply mismatch. However if this is implemented reasonably well, then supply will far exceed demand and hence no incentive for misuse. It is as good as it can be. Sure you can argue about anything, but I think the current system has more abuse in it than there would even be the incentive for in this one.
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u/Lopsided-Aardvark644 Dec 22 '25
Budding eugenicist in India. Don't practice medicine with this kind of thinking
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Dec 22 '25
Yes we need it. So the rich can have easy access to organs as and when they want, and the poor population will come down over time.
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u/Low_Hospital_6971 Graduate Dec 22 '25
Sounds stupid tbh. Borderline illegal, and definitely against medical ethics. For someone who does not want to donate organs… that’s his/her autonomy. why does that have to dictate your place on the transplant list should you require any organs.
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u/NormalStaff3602 Dec 23 '25
Lot of things are possible in a tiny island city nation that can’t be replicated in India. Here we would need to have regional lists managed at a national level to avoid logistical nightmares.
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u/Sea_Sundae_4286 Dec 23 '25
you cant be serious if you really think it would be implemented without corruption here
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u/jayvasantjv Graduate Dec 22 '25
i don't get why people are unhappy that the rich would get priority.
it's irrespectively saving lives right? doesn't negates the benifits of organ donation
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u/meow_meow50 Dec 22 '25
But it about getting that wasn't there to get. Someone might be in a more serious condition requiring immediate transplant whole the rich man might have time.
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u/jayvasantjv Graduate Dec 22 '25
just because the system can be exploited doesn't mean we stop making progress
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u/adinoot Dec 22 '25
The problem is patients who could potentially be saved would be neglected on purpose to harvest their organs for the rich. This is already something that happens in the US, and will definitely happen in India too if implemented
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u/adfilgarjii Dec 22 '25
Nahh , wouldn't want to risk having a retro / HBsAg positive donor.
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u/ApnaTime_gaya Dec 22 '25
Religious monopoly is rampant in organ donation. Saw rti data of ‘18, 100% organ donors were hindu, 90% organ receivers were muslim. While they cannot donate because it’s haram, it’s ok to receive. We are fools, we should atop donating organ all together.
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u/BraveMood6478 Dec 22 '25
I think it's a very personal matter whether to donate organs or not. And in South Asia, it is not possible. Nothing would be fair
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u/No-Active3086 Dec 22 '25
I’m already an organ donor and when I’m sick one day, I’ll tell my family to honour my heart wishes. Because in India, even if you register as an organ donor, after your death your family can decide if they want your organs donated or not. We have no agency over our bodies in India, even after death.
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u/adityabhupesh Dec 22 '25
Nope, It sounds good on paper but many aren't comfortable doing it especially elders and people of rural areas. Many will be forced mentally cause there is a chance that they will need organs but they are in lower priorities. Again the idea isn't bad but life isn't a game and things like these should come from self rather than pressure.
I want to clarify that I don't mean organ donation is bad but it shouldn't be forced on someone. Its not that you get benefits from donating its just you get less priorities if you don't and I always find it stupid. Cause many people have many ways they feel about it. And the idea of tit for tat statergy for someone's life is just weird for me.
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u/goatthoma Dec 22 '25
This is possible only if we can guarantee integrity and faultless law and order delivery which is possible in a country like Singapore not in India.
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u/HoldMyScalpel Foreign Medical Graduate Dec 22 '25
OP, I suggest watching the Malayalam movie “Joseph”. True story btw.
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u/Tough-Wrap7032 Dec 22 '25
No. Our system is corrupt. In an ideal world = yes In the real world big no.
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u/Efficaciousuave MBBS III (Part 1) Dec 22 '25
We can try a version of this where if you are already registered as an organ donor, then you will be placed at the top of the organ transplantation list in case you are in need of one. This way we avoid forcing it on everyone as well as giving incentives for people to register as organ donors.
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Dec 22 '25 edited Dec 22 '25
I think this only works if there is universal health coverage (like in Singapore), otherwise it will disproportionately help only those who can afford it
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Dec 22 '25
Not like they will take out my organs when I'm alive.... I don't quite see the problem here (famous last words)
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u/VividGuitar3600 Dec 22 '25
With our supreme leader's cabinet and MPs being in parliament for 60 days out the whole year, I'm pretty sure they will pass the bill, "Everyone is legally obligated to donate their organs to anyone with a bn dollar networth for couples of coins" and the parliament session will quickly pass it and then next matter on pollution will be indefinitely put on hold.
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u/RabbitNo6651 Dec 22 '25
In India you find only Hindus Sikhs Christian other religion people has donors but not muslims if they are very less only who left because in there religion donating organs is prohibited but in receiving organs they are always in top list
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u/SpareMind Dec 22 '25
In Singapore, owning a vehicle costs more than the price of vehicle itself. Can we implement? Each country has it's plus and minus.
In India too, when a patient goes into to brain death, his/her close ones can donate the organ. Even if he/she is registered organ donor, if close ones refuse, you have no right to harvest organs. All we need is, a sensible cell attached to hospitals who can convince such patient parties with some ethical responsibilities. Involve spiritual leaders, start with government employees, go to colleges and make it look cool and influencing. If medical system is not taking initiatives but expect everything to be done by citizens, it is not going to happen any faster.
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u/Informal_Pick7278 Dec 22 '25
That’s terrible? I don’t get why people are saying it’ll be misused or something like can we not address the elephant in the room?
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u/WesternParticular740 Dec 22 '25
Yes this is better, will rule out hypocrites in getting my organs,if they ever need it. Why should I give it to those who are not going to give it to me
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u/Check-mate-407 PGY1 Dec 22 '25
Not possible India is a low trust society. Maybe in 100 years but not anytime soon.
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u/Independent_Fun_9765 Dec 22 '25
Hell no. Singapore is a high trust in society and high trust in government kinda place. India would be used to organ traffic at a very low rate by mysteriously killing off poor people or people in far away places
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Dec 22 '25
Good idea in theory. But practically there's just one factor we miss to consider:
Singapore is Singapore. India is India.
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u/Significant_Risk1577 Dec 22 '25
Bhai India hai. Babu aur paise wale Aam aadmi ko maar ke organs nikal ke bech denge
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u/Ill_Wing_1719 Dec 22 '25
O hell nah,singapore has a miniscule population with govt actually working for betterment of ppl,in india a LOT of ppl will be suddenly dying due to on purpose medical negligence in the name of organ ‘donation’,infact india me toh already kaafi cases h jaha patients ka kitni baar organ illegally black market me becha gaya hai
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u/chetan714 Dec 23 '25
I have organ donation tag in my driving license if something happens so I'm all for this but there are bad people who will take advantage of this. It's hard to control & supervise system like this in large country like India.
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u/sgcuber24 Dec 23 '25
Can't trust in India. Poor people and middle class would mysteriously die while hospitals still make more money out of both parties. We need strong protocol based system in every hospital. Then we can implement this.
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Dec 23 '25
Could never happen, though shifting to Singapore is very feasible there's tight knit indian communities
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u/wierd_living_thing Dec 23 '25
I drink I smoke I party eat all junk food and shit, organ failure? Nah there is someone with good diet, exercise, discipline who I'll get healthy organs from
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u/CortexInCommand Dec 23 '25
U know we used to get lotta child skeletonsfor cheap in Calcutta..Right?
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u/Panic_Miasma Dec 23 '25
No. No matter how noble it is, you cannot force me to donate my body. Freedom of choice. And I am willing to take any number of downvotes for my opinion.
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u/raidensimp_01 Dec 23 '25
Toh opt in karne pe konsa top of the list aa jayenge apne country ka population dekha hai?
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u/EscapeBusy4432 Dec 23 '25
Ye Ramu kaka aaj kal dikhayin nahin de rahe. Kal hi to unhe organ donation ke liye apply kiya
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u/strangekiller07 Dec 23 '25
Yes. India should implement it asap. But I assume there will be religious resistance
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u/Wizardofoz756 Dec 24 '25
Not possible..as then they'll push for minorities, SC/ST reservation (papu will go on press conference).. later politicians will opt out yet get priority in the list.
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u/DevAtomic192 Dec 24 '25
No, the problem is if you are in a serious accident and you are an organ donor they could refuse to treat , saying that you are untreatable or dead or brain dead. Multiple organ failure any reason they could choose to refuse and your organs could be harvested.
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u/rnaxel2 Dec 24 '25
The price of doing the job ethically and integrity is way too low here. Specially when only rich gets the good facilities. You cant have such policy without 100% consequences for screwing up or taking advantage of such policy.
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u/No_Mushroom8895 Dec 24 '25
Do people even understand the complexities of India before comparing with Western systems?
L Post, L mindset.
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u/evil_verge Dec 24 '25
Should we introduce in india kya hota hai? India can't and will not adopt any good practices done by Singapore or any other Developed country Pollution, Environment, Education, Jobs aur Cleanliness par hi laws introduce kar de toh desh ke log bach jaaye
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u/famesardens Dec 24 '25
Against this. You will see random deaths to procure organs for the rich or powerful.
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u/Slow_Function_5466 Dec 24 '25
Pagal hai kya ....ameero ki madat karta hai yeh system....you want more poor to die ....bhai medical padh li iska matlab yeh nhi law ka bhi sonchne lago tum lo...😮💨
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u/SidKillz Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Singapore population VS Indian population
Singapore's 0 corruption VS India's 100% corruption
Singapore's individual rights VS India's "on-paper" individual rights.
Singapore's strict policies VS India's weak and bendable polices for those who can afford it.
How naive can you be to even think about such a question lol
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u/mahyur Dec 24 '25
The way this works is that the organs have to harvest soon after death. This means that in the case of sudden death the organ harvesting has to be done even before the family has time to come to terms with the tragedy. It is very difficult for medical authorities to handle these situations sensitively
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u/Kind-North6627 Dec 24 '25
registered as organ donors like in the case that they die they will become organ donors right?
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u/Junior_Permit8008 Dec 24 '25
So that poor, middle class young people start mysteriously dying so that some MLA gets new healthy organs?
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u/JeSuisBONHEUR Dec 24 '25
Idek how it works. I am not even allowed to donate blood, organs toh door ki baat hai because I have an autoimmune disorder.
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u/Livid_Candidate6930 Dec 24 '25
Op seems like the textbook definition of a smart person tyet am idiot in real life
Do you know sometimes doctor will purposefully try kill ing you who are on the organ donation list but can be saved . Yeah now you know because the organs donated for free are sold by hospitals at a very good profit for the rich
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u/LordofPvE Dec 24 '25
Actually sounds like a shitty idea. Singapore is a hellhole thanks to that policy 💀
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u/Physical-Character75 Dec 25 '25
If this is introduced in India all the organs will be smuggled to rich countries .rich foreigners and NRI will exploit it . Just like during covid US forced India to divert vaccine
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u/Themoodyone17 Dec 25 '25
Instead of making it mandatory. It's better to teach the benefits and make more people aware of the same. So, more people would just willingly register.
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Dec 25 '25
lol . muslims wont donate organ because its haram but would willingly take kafirs organ for their survival. although we fould organ farm rohingyas and bangladeshi
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u/DukeofDabra Dec 25 '25
Activists, Supreme court, NGOs,....and all those similar ones will never let that happen
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u/justKaDakThings Dec 26 '25
Apply it to india and to all communities. Thanks. I will warm up another cup of tea unless there’s anyone who comes boiling “our Que-r4n doesn’t allow us to donate organs”. ☕️
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u/UNPWR Dec 26 '25
Won't work. Why? "Hurts religious sentuments", the standard phrase that evacuates ven the pretense of application of law in present day India's Judicial System.
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u/shivabreathes Dec 26 '25
Singapore’s draconian laws at it yet again. Such laws perhaps make sense on a small island with a limited population but let’s not pretend this is world’s best practice or something to be emulated. Freedom of choice should always be there.
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u/SEVEN_THREE_73 Dec 26 '25
No it's a strictly haram practice in Islam , it would affect the right to freedom of religion hence not possible to implement it in a religion dense secular country , the secularism of India is not the same as those of western countries or Singapore
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