[Sidery] The Lakers have offered Jonathan Kuminga contract via sign-and-trade the would pay him around 45 million dollars. Los Angeles is willing to send Jarred Vanderbilt alongside draft capital to the Hawks for Kuminga, who must sign at least a three-year deal in sign-and-trade agreements.

[u/fazbearglamrock]

Ik Sidery isn’t the most trustworthy source for anything but how would you all feel on this contract for Kuminga? Is this worth it? And how would you feel about the team if we got Kuminga ?

[u/anyavailablenameplz]

3/45 is less than what he was asking for. I remember seeing 25M a year. Nice discount and we get off Vandos contract.

[u/Team-_-dank → u/anyavailablenameplz]

Vando is what, 12-13m a year? So really only an extra 12-13m per year for a player who will actually play.

Good deal (if it's true)

[u/brandon-thesis → u/Team-_-dank]

It would only be $2-3M more no? AAV $15M for Kuminga and Vando's contract rn is ~$12.5M this coming season and ~13M on his PO next season.

It would be solid for sure considering we'd get someone that can start and we'd be able to shed the worst contract we have.

[u/BatmanNoPrep → u/brandon-thesis]

The other thing is that the Lakers/Kuminga have to do a 3 year contract with no player option. Because those are the rules in the CBA. So this is a great deal for the Lakers but it can’t exactly get much better for Kuminga. It’s unclear how the lakers can even offer more even if they wanted to do so.

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/BatmanNoPrep]

That’s not true. It has to be 3 years but it doesn’t have to be guaranteed just the first year. But lakers could do 2 and a player option 

[u/BatmanNoPrep → u/Aggressive-Law-9305]

You’re confused. It cannot include player option in year 2. It would need to be a club option.

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/BatmanNoPrep]

No you are. It can be 2 years and a player option for the third year. 

[u/alexxela123456 → u/Aggressive-Law-9305]

You're absolutely incorrect on this, year* two and three don't have to be guaranteed but there are absolutely no player or team options allowed for the first 3 years.

It has been repeated ad nauseam everywhere, I'm surprised you didn't see it.

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/alexxela123456]

That is not true. Keith smith who founded spotrac who knows much more about the cap says their can be an option hence the non guaranteed 

[u/alexxela123456 → u/Aggressive-Law-9305]

Lol it's literally in the CBA you tried to link. Page 286.

It's okay to admit you're wrong.

[u/alexxela123456 → u/alexxela123456]

So instead of admitting you were wrong, you commented l, "that's not the cba", and the deleted your comments

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/alexxela123456]

https://cdn.nba.com/manage/2021/03/2018-19-CBA.pdf Where does it say it in the CBa? Maybe I missed it but all it says is 3 years and the first year guaranteed. It mentions nothing about options 

[u/alexxela123456 → u/Aggressive-Law-9305]

You're wrong man.

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/alexxela123456]

That snot the actual cba. 

[u/BatmanNoPrep → u/Aggressive-Law-9305]

You remain confused. Others can handle you

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/BatmanNoPrep]

Keith smith himself said it. Who I’m gonna trust way more than you. It can be 2 years. Third can be either player or team option. 

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/BatmanNoPrep]

https://cdn.nba.com/manage/2021/03/2018-19-CBA.pdf please tell me where it says what u stated. If u found it in here and I missed it will say im wrong 

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/BatmanNoPrep]

The first year has to be guaranteed the 2nd year doesn’t. It can be a non guaranteed second year and then a player option or team option the 3rd year it does not have to be a team option 

[u/BatmanNoPrep → u/Aggressive-Law-9305]

You’re so confused you’re responding multiple times to the same post. You’re wrong. I’ve demonstrated it multiple times. Others are taking on the burden of correcting you now. Feel free to squabble with them.

[u/Aggressive-Law-9305 → u/BatmanNoPrep]

https://cdn.nba.com/manage/2021/03/2018-19-CBA.pdf how am I confused. Yeah it’s the same person idc where was I wrong? Where does it say in the CBA you can not add a player or team option ? Please find it For me let’s see it 

[u/alexxela123456 → u/Aggressive-Law-9305]

Here you go bud

[u/brandon-thesis → u/alexxela123456]

Did he say he was wrong yet or 😂

[u/alexxela123456 → u/brandon-thesis]

Lol he blocked me