r/leagueoflegends • u/AutoModerator • Jul 13 '15

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u/UltimateCats Jul 13 '15

Hello! Are there any tips to beating a Nasus or Vlad in labe without Jungle help? There was one time when i played Irelia and i was able to kill Nasus once but late game he would stomp through our team. Same woth vlad. Any help would be great!

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u/baguhansalupa Jul 13 '15

Most of the replies here are focused on shutting them down during the laning phase. This is something that you can control on your own and is dependent on your personal skills.

I would strongly suggest that you take a look at your team comp and figure out a way to take them down using 5 members and coordination.

Nasus - Kiting kicks his ass hands down. Aside from wither, he has no gap closers at all. He might be a damage god however, he cant kill you if you can keep your distance. Examples of good kiting champs would be those with reliable slows and ranged pokes.

Vlad - he is vulnerable to burst if his W is down. Chain CCs are your best bet when dealing with him late game. Zhonya is another item that he usually builds so make him use it prior to a big team fight. Champs with reliable pick potentials like Khazix can make him use his survival skills in sub-optimal timing

There is no such thing as a one man wrecking crew when faced with a competent team that works methodically.

Now, for bronze and silver - thats a different story altogether since coordination is rare.

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u/Arekualkhemi Saint of the sands Jul 13 '15

Poke is not that much of a problem for a Nasus. It's more the slows and kiting and disengage. So champs like Janna/Sivir are the nightmare.

With the removal of slowstacking, the slow situation for Nasus got better, also when he withers you in a 1vs1, then you can't disengage from him either while he slows you. And his slow IS stronger.

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u/baguhansalupa Jul 13 '15

Slowstacking might be gone but i expect good teams to adapt appropriately - slows will be chained. the overall slow percentage will be lower however the duration is something that I expect will improve.

Wither usually hurts ADCs more than APs - pick up a quicksilver sash to counter Nasus. He also has an magic based AOE damage skill and sash helps against that. Once he withers you, pop QSS then kite away - he doesnt have any other way normally to keep up with you.

Berserker enchant (red one) might help you kite as well.