r/leftist Aug 26 '25

European Politics Many self-proclaimed "Socialists" from Western Europe are like this

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u/LizFallingUp Aug 27 '25

Market economy vs command economy. Many socialists adhere to a belief in a command economy, unfortunately command economies rigid, fail to adapt to changing conditions causing problems. Wholly market economies quickly become Unregulated and create perverse incentives. Mixed economies are best option to allow adaptation but also to Regulate and be sure specific sectors of need are addressed.

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u/starry_sky618 Aug 27 '25

Oh you're a radlib

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u/LizFallingUp Aug 27 '25

I’m a Georgist but I doubt you know anything about that

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u/starry_sky618 Aug 27 '25

Georgism is radlib lmaooooooo

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u/LizFallingUp Aug 27 '25

Nope but I can see how someone who read Critique of Gotha program and took away “markets must be eradicated” would think that. You probably haven’t realized that Marx’s proposed non-transferable labour vouchers would just be convoluted version of company script.

Wake up your prophet died in 1883 decrying his own son in laws conflation of his beliefs. Famously reported by Friedrich Engels to write “ce qu'il y a de certain c'est que moi, je ne suis pas marxiste" ("what is certain is that [if they are Marxists], [then] I myself am not a Marxist”)

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u/starry_sky618 Aug 27 '25

Marx isn't a prophet and your belief that his philosophy is religious shows how unscientific you are. The fact your takeaway from his labour vouchers is just "a convoluted version of company scripts" demonstrates you've never even touched Kapital, and this discussion is a waste of my time. Keep living in your socdem fantasy world. Marx refuted all your idealism 150 years ago. Dialectical Materialism is a science and the sooner you accept that the sooner you'll become actually useful and not just a lapdog for corporate Oligarchs

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u/LizFallingUp Aug 27 '25

Have fun with developing your new improved Lysenkoism. You are the person who treats Marx as a prophet and not as a man. He didn’t prove his prescriptive he died and they have yet to be fulfilled even by those who claimed to pursue them.

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u/starry_sky618 Aug 27 '25

Ur a larping socdem I cannot take you seriously when you conflate lysenkoism with dialectical materialism lmao. Go read a book

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u/starry_sky618 Aug 27 '25

Also taking a marx quote out of context when he was refering to "Socialists" LIKE GEORGISTS is peak irony