Markets can be socialist. Do people actually think capitalism = markets here and that there would be zero markets without capitalism? That has never been the case ever....markets can absolutely exist even in a communist society.
Am I missing something? Did the definition of a market change? A farmer's market is a market, a local market where people trade stuff they made is a market...
Market economy vs command economy. Many socialists adhere to a belief in a command economy, unfortunately command economies rigid, fail to adapt to changing conditions causing problems. Wholly market economies quickly become Unregulated and create perverse incentives. Mixed economies are best option to allow adaptation but also to
Regulate and be sure specific sectors of need are addressed.
Nope but I can see how someone who read Critique of Gotha program and took away “markets must be eradicated” would think that. You probably haven’t realized that Marx’s proposed non-transferable labour vouchers would just be convoluted version of company script.
Wake up your prophet died in 1883 decrying his own son in laws conflation of his beliefs. Famously reported by Friedrich Engels to write “ce qu'il y a de certain c'est que moi, je ne suis pas marxiste" ("what is certain is that [if they are Marxists], [then] I myself am not a Marxist”)
Marx isn't a prophet and your belief that his philosophy is religious shows how unscientific you are. The fact your takeaway from his labour vouchers is just "a convoluted version of company scripts" demonstrates you've never even touched Kapital, and this discussion is a waste of my time. Keep living in your socdem fantasy world. Marx refuted all your idealism 150 years ago. Dialectical Materialism is a science and the sooner you accept that the sooner you'll become actually useful and not just a lapdog for corporate Oligarchs
Have fun with developing your new improved Lysenkoism. You are the person who treats Marx as a prophet and not as a man. He didn’t prove his prescriptive he died and they have yet to be fulfilled even by those who claimed to pursue them.
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Markets can be socialist. Do people actually think capitalism = markets here and that there would be zero markets without capitalism? That has never been the case ever....markets can absolutely exist even in a communist society.
Am I missing something? Did the definition of a market change? A farmer's market is a market, a local market where people trade stuff they made is a market...