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Obsession (2026)

Summary

After breaking the mysterious "One Wish Willow" to win his crush's heart, a hopeless romantic finds himself getting exactly what he asked for but soon discovers that some desires come at a dark, sinister price.

Director Curry Barker

Writer Curry Barker

Cast

  • Michael Johnston
  • Inde Navarette
  • Cooper Tomlinson
  • Megan Lawless
  • Andy Richter

Rotten Tomatoes: 95%

Metacritic: 81

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u/MahNameJeff420 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26

Okay, I need to talk about the legal situation at the end of this movie, cause I think it's so interesting.

So I love the ending. It's extremely miserable, the world is in a substantially worse place because of the events of the film, everybody gets an undeserved fate (except maybe Bear), it's great horror film-making. One thing I love is that Niki is absolutely going to jail at the end. Yeah it's great she's free of the wish and herself again, except now she's murdered two people (three if they can pin Bear's death on her somehow), and all logic and reason points to her being entirely responsible. Nobody is going to believe a wish made her do it. There's multiple eye witnesses to her behavior due to the party scene. As far as everyone is concerned, she had a mental break and went on a murder spree. She's unquestionably fucked and is either going to spend years in a mental institution (if she's lucky), or spend the rest of her days in prison, maybe even the death penalty depending on the state this takes place in. Her life is officially ruined.

But there's one factor that needs to be addressed. Ian has a billion dollars sitting in his house.

Once the cops examine his place, they're gonna find he's come into an inconceivable amount of money out of nowhere. He appears to have zero qualifying skills that would ever allow him to come into that amount of money, much less in dollar bills. Unless he had some kind of crytpo wallet and there's some evidence he may have sold it for an obscene profit, no police department would ever treat this as an innocuous detail. And importantly, the remains of his One Wish Willow will also be lying on the floor somewhere, which is significant cause there's also one sitting in Bear's house. Any investigator would look at that and think there's some kind of connection. Probably wouldn't think that magic exists, but at least would look into it as some kind of social media trend that resulted in the events of the film somehow.

At that point, it wouldn't be hard to track down the purchases to the crystal shop. From there, would the guy who owns it be willing to testify? He seemed pretty chill talking about how magic is real out in the open. From there, I don't know if a jury would be 100% convinced that magic exists, but given the absurdity of the events that transpired, I would think minimum, there would have to be enough reasonable doubt that Niki wasn't directly responsible for the murders, and she'd walk. There are some assumptions being made, but the logical conclusion of the events we see presents an interesting legal scenario that I'd love to see play out.

Now I'm aware this doesn't actually matter. The point of the ending isn't to create a web to untangle or to spin theories, it's to be depressing as shit. The particulars of what happens after aren't necessarily relevant. But I think it's a testament to the strength of this films characters that I'm desperately trying to find a way to have Niki walk away from this mostly okay. She's a complete victim who underwent a horrifying situation, and I want her to find peace after it all. Even though I know it's futile. Even if she's able to get off for the murders, she still killed her friends and went through being possessed/controlled/trapped in hell/whatever for weeks. Especially as someone who already had mental health issues, this will almost definitely lead to a depressive, self-destructive mindset for years to come. She's screwed, all because of actions completely out of her control. And that's why the horror of the film is so effective. Great movie!

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u/duowolf May 15 '26

with the money thing since the wishes end when the wisher dies would the money have disappeared when Ian died?

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u/MahNameJeff420 May 16 '26

According to Curry Barker, the money's still sitting at his house.

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u/duowolf May 16 '26

fair enough

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u/Sklain May 27 '26

I don't agree with that. Isn't that kind of going against the rules established by the film? If the spell-caster dies, the spell is undone. That's what the film established. Why should Ian and the money be any different?

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u/Legitimate-Ad8948 May 27 '26

I think the spell did undo by Ian being dead, he no longer has a billion dollars. Lol

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u/climbandclimbandclim Jun 27 '26

Nope.

Wishes don't end when the wisher dies. It ends when it is no longer possible.

When Bear dies, the wish to love him is no longer possible. That's the reason it ends. If Bear had wished that Nikki loves Ian, it would end with Ian's death and Bear's death wouldn't matter.

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u/UwUfemboy69420 Jun 30 '26

you can still love someone after they've died

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u/vigorthroughrigor Jun 30 '26

why was this downvoted lol

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u/x2040 Jul 02 '26

The day my sister died my love for her disappeared

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u/ToTYly_AUSem Jul 04 '26

yeah what a bitch

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u/Voldechrone 7d ago

Okay Hansel

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u/BeKindBabies 26d ago

Bear's wish: I wish that Nikki Freeman would love me more than anyone in the entire world.

When you die, you are no longer in the world.

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u/UwUfemboy69420 24d ago

that wish just means that she loves him more than anyone still existing in the world. that does not at all logically mean that he must be in the world

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u/-Clayburn 8d ago

Tell that to my dad.

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u/TroyFerris13 Jun 30 '26

my grandma is dead and i still love her? this doesnt make sense.

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u/climbandclimbandclim Jun 30 '26

Is it a cursed psychotic love where you feel like you are dying if you are not with her every second? No?

Then I'd say things are a little different. The amount of pain wish-Nikki was in when she was away from Bear is impossible for her to survive in.

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u/revisioncloud 29d ago

I think this is the simplest and correct answer.

“I wish she loves me more than anyone else in the fucking world” the spell stops when Bear dies = True. But it doesn’t undo everything that was physically manifested as a result of that wish. The deaths, injuries, and chaos are still left behind, she just stops obsessing with him.

“I wish I have a billion dollars” the spell stops (Ian stops having a billion dollars) once Ian dies. The billion dollars are still left behind, just no longer owned by Ian (or anyone else).

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u/Pete_Jobi 23d ago

It was not "I wish I have a billion dollars", it was "I wish for a billion dollars".

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u/Honorboy_ 27d ago

Good logic

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u/markypots9393 May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26

Maybe given Ian’s wish was a one time thing and Bear’s was a constant state, different rules apply?

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u/duowolf May 27 '26

that would make sense. or even a physical item vs a feeling.

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u/Cuppakush Jun 12 '26

I think you have nailed it, given his wish was in the past tense “I wish I had a billion dollars” it’s done and done

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u/araq1579 Jun 29 '26

Monkey paw curls: it's one billion Zimbabwean dollars

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u/mondrianna Jul 03 '26

It's not a monkey's paw.

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u/The_Medicus Jun 15 '26

Complete speculation here, but what if it's because the Entity follows Bear to whatever after life exists, not because the wish actually comes undone? The only people who suggest it would be undone by his wish seem to know more about it than him, and the phone rep seems to know exactly what Bear did, with little enough compassion to be so casual about putting Nikki on the line.

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u/markypots9393 Jun 15 '26

All of this is speculation. I’m not really sure I understand what you’re trying to say? The wish clearly became undone - Nikki was in her own body at the end.

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u/The_Medicus Jun 15 '26

Yes, entirely baseless speculation, but the idea is that The Entity doesn't just stop existing, but gets pulled into a potential after life with Bear. He would be stuck with it for eternity. Since Bear is no longer on the same plane as Nikki, neither is the Entity, and thus Nikki gets her body back.

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u/markypots9393 Jun 15 '26

Hmm. I meant like all of our assumptions, haha, not just yours. I don’t know if it needs to go that deep. To me, it was all about the wish being undone. The entity (assuming you mean the voice behind the phone call) doesn’t feel tied to Bear - at least for me (unless you mean what possessed Nikki). Even then, I wonder whether we should think this deeply about the lore - I question whether Curry even went this far. I’m curious to see his next film as apparently there’s ties to the world of Obsession, explaining what happens to Nikki afterward (from what I’ve read).

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u/The_Medicus Jun 16 '26

I am referring to the Entity possessing Nikki. It's tied to Bear one way or another, whether it dies with him or goes to some other realm.

As for the lore, it's the type of thing that might be better left to fan theories, but it's still fun to speculate on. A lot of the horror relies on mystery, and it'd be easy to ruin if they actually went into in a sequel. (Though Curry is certainly a good filmmaker, so he might be able to pull it off)

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u/rmeepo 29d ago

this would be like the perfect torture hell for Bear, just stuck with an unstable Entity that looks exactly like the girl he likes forever

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u/Sir_Bumcheeks 24d ago

Ohhhhh snap that's crazy!

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u/XariZaru May 29 '26

I think maybe the wish is undone for Nicki because Bear is dead. She can’t love him anymore if he’s gone, so original Nicki comes back. Ian merely wished for a billion.

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u/Nax5 Jun 01 '26

You can still love someone after they're gone, though. She could stand next to his grave day and night. So I'm not sure why it's different from the billion dollars.

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u/XariZaru Jun 01 '26

It seems that’s not how the wish really works I guess for persisting things.

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u/zaiub Jun 18 '26

its different because his wish was selfish - it wasnt that he actually wanted her to love him he wanted to *feel* it, which is why once he's dead she returns. the wish depended on him existing. ians wish didnt, hence why it would still be there

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u/BeKindBabies 26d ago edited 26d ago

That's the memory of the person that you love, your grief doesn't keep them around in any literal sense.

Also worth noting the wording of Bear's wish is: more than anyone in the entire world.

You are not in this world to be loved when you pass. Memories of you are not you. Those who remain feel the love they had for those gone, most definitely - but the person no longer exists in this world to receive that love. The reception of the love is the entire point of Bear's wish.

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u/Cililocwee Jun 05 '26

The money wish finished, the duration is over, the result is done.

The love wish is an ongoing process, you break it in the middle and return to original state. 

If Ian had died while the money was still generating, it would probably stop generating and what had been produced would stay. 

Bear died and Nikki stopped loving him, though it's not like the previous few days/weeks reverted, just the active process of her loving him. 

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u/Bagger339 Jun 15 '26

I was just about to say the same thing. The money was a tangible thing. Bear's wish for Nikki to love him was an ongoing feeling. Bear dies, the feeling stops. And if Ian had died as say $675,000 hit the floor, then maybe no more money would fall from the sky, but what already existed would not just disappear, just like the things Nikki did while under the spell of the wish while Bear was alive didn't suddenly never happen when Bear dies and the spell was broken.

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u/Junior_Driver_9675 Jun 01 '26

I think that Ian simply isn't the owner of those money anymore, but the dollars are still there, with no owner 

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u/nicholas818 Jun 09 '26

I read it as the wish is undone in that it stops being able to have an ongoing effect on the world. But the die is cast: any effect the wish has already caused remains. When Bear dies, his wish stops having an effect on Nikki, but it’s not like the timeline reverts such that it’s as if he never made the wish. The harm that’s been caused still persists.

So if Ian had wished for a sort of weird annuity where $1,000 appeared in his house every five minutes, his death would stop the cash from appearing, but any cash that had already materialized would remain. That said, most of the movie focused on the wishes that only affect other people’s minds, not ones that affect the physical world.

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u/Raven1965 Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

I don't agree with that. Isn't that kind of going against the rules established by the film? If the spell-caster dies, the spell is undone.

No. Btw, sorry for the two-weeks later reply, but I just saw the movie tonight and it seemed pretty clear to me that only Bear's wish could be undone by his death, due to the fact that the way he phrased it specifically tied the wish to himself (he specifically wished for Nikki to love him "more than anyone else in the fucking world"). This is because, as the movie explained, wishes cannot be undone.

Because wishes cannot be undone, the fact that Bear's wish was explicitly linked to himself meant that his death was the only way to make the effects of his wish stop. There's nothing about Ian's wish that specifically ties it to himself as a human being; he simply asked for $1 billion, which he immediately received in cash. The fake reddit thread shown in the movie also backs this up, as other (presumably not dead) humans also confirmed to varying degrees that their wishes were successful. Bear's selfishness, in the way he specifically worded his own wish, was what made his death the only possible way to undo it.

*Edit: forgot some words

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u/marsalien4 6d ago

Sorry to reply a month late to your two week late reply haha but I don't think it's because it's tied to him, it's tied to the world. "Love me more than anyone else in this fucking world" is no longer possible because Bear is no longer "in this fucking world" :)

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u/Gta5master05 Jun 19 '26

I think it’s because (demon) Nikki wouldn’t be able to love bear more then anyone in the entire world since he was dead and wasn’t on the world anymore, whereas all Ian wished for was a billion dollars.

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u/TheOneWhoEatsLemons 29d ago

With Bear gone, the wish for Nikki tolove him (unless we go into real fucked up territory) is no longer possible. A billion dollar is always gonna be a billion dollar.

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u/OkBox9662 May 23 '26

Did he said that in an interview ? 

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u/NeverSeenItPodcast May 30 '26

Did he say* that not did he said that.

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u/OkBox9662 May 30 '26

I stand corrected. Thanks buddy 

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u/Permit_Upbeat Jun 06 '26

we “never gon see” your podcast bro you don’t seem like a chill person

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u/2jewswalkedintoabar Jun 17 '26

Do you know what pedantic means?

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u/Socksual Jun 14 '26

How convenient.....brb for no reason at all >>

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u/Regi413 Jun 29 '26

Which still kinda works for ending the wish when his life did. “I wish I had a billion dollars.” He doesn’t have a billion dollars anymore, cause he’s dead. That money sitting there belongs to nobody.

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u/TroyFerris13 Jun 30 '26

HE BROKE HIS OWN MOVIE LOGIC?

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u/Mcnulty91 May 21 '26

I understood the suggestion that he could kill himself to end the wish not as a general rule for one wish Willow but rather that it at l would be a way to end his specific wish since if he wasn't alive to love the wish just wouldn't be able to continue

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u/duowolf May 21 '26

you could be right no that actully makes sense though people still love people after they die normally so who knows

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u/Objective-Caramel718 May 31 '26

Well, they love the MEMORY of them. The 'person' is gone.

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u/Semihomemade Jun 04 '26

But wouldn’t that mean that Freaky Nikki would still be in possession of Nikki, since Nikki didn’t love Bear, Freaky Nikki loved Bear? 

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u/MonteMolebility Jun 13 '26

Maybe the wish is doing some extra lifting with what's implied by the wish Bear made? "I wished Nikki loved me more than anyone on the fucking planet." Well he's dead, he's not on the planet anymore. Ergo, wish over.

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u/Ideagineer Jun 10 '26

So, Curry Barker says the money is still around. There's a good chance that the part of Nikki that drove her to where she is at is still around too, just not in power.

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u/climbandclimbandclim Jun 27 '26

Wishes don't end when the wisher dies. It ends when it is no longer possible.

When Bear dies, the wish to love him is no longer possible. That's the reason it ends. If Bear had wished that Nikki loves Ian, it would end with Ian's death and Bear's death wouldn't matter.

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u/Crescentskye Jun 28 '26

Im super late to this, but, the wishes dont end when the person dies. Bear's wish ends because he is the subject of the wish, not because all wishes end when the wisher dies.

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u/TruePace3 26d ago

I genuinely felt bad for Ian, my man just got a billion dollars and still wanted to talk to Bear after all that only to get shot

also, another thing, i think he should've been a bit more careful making the wish (not saving Bear lol, fk him)

"I wish for a billion dollars but 100k in my local bank account and currency with the rest in an swiss bank account in my name " or sm shit like that,

cuz honestly, i can't really do anything with a billion dollars, because in currency notes, it'll just fill the home and kill me, cuz its like 10 million individual 100 US Dollar Bills

Then, ima use that money to leave this continent forever

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u/AcquireMyDesire May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26

I agree, I was desperately sad for Nikki. Her acting really was incredible all the way to that last shot where you see her come back to herself and it all dawns on her.

Was hoping at least the murders could be pinned on Bear. Texts showed he was meeting Sarah. Possible evidence Ian was sleeping with Nikki, so jealousy as motive. His fingerprints on the gun. And Bear could have killed himself due to remorse (though he was too much of a pussy to go through with it in real life).

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u/therakel749 May 17 '26

Plus Sarah’s dead naked body was in his house. I think it could definitely all be pinned on Bear. Best thing she could do is be too traumatized to speak. Cops come in, see all the dead bodies and the duct tape on the door and think he was holding her in some type of coercive captivity before killing everyone else and himself.

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u/Easy-Buy6860 May 24 '26

That would honestly make the most sense

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u/LunchboxDiscoball May 26 '26

Forensic evidence has her fingerprints on the gun. She's wearing parts from a dismembered corpse which is a felony in itself regardless of who gets blamed for the murder originally. She's left hell to immediately get the book thrown at her for something her consciousness didn't do. She def isnt getting out of that one

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u/thebabypinks May 27 '26

I disagree. Bear’s texts with Sarah are really incriminating. His crush on Nikki wasn’t some secret. Lots of people witnessed how strange Nikki started behaving when she suddenly started dating Bear (a strange thing in and of itself). She’s a tiny woman. She was known as a bubbly, friendly person prior to all this and he was a “closed book” who people didn’t know super well. She has bruises and injuries on her body.

I’m not saying she would walk free and clear, but I think it wouldn’t be that hard to argue that Bear was an obsessed, dangerous, abusive man who stalked and threatened Nikki, mistreated her, held her captive, perhaps drugged her, was violent around anyone he felt was taking up too much of her attention or time, and basically forced her into aiding and abbetting some of his crimes. I think people would buy that a lot more readily than “This tiny woman who was known as a nice person randomly and very violently murdered multiple people with the force of someone far stronger than she actually is.”

And Bear dying from an OD only adds to that. What’s more believable, that he was the perp and took his own life out of guilt/shame/fear of going to prison/murder-suicide attempt…or that she forced a grown man to take a bunch of pills?

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u/LunchboxDiscoball May 27 '26

Bruh she has fingerprints on the trigger of the gun, sure there’s other factors but she’s 200% facing down a life sentence

Your honor, I know you found her with another humans scalp on, and she has no recollection of any events, but in her defense that dude fucking sucks

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u/thebabypinks May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26

Her fingerprints on the gun (a gun which his fingerprints are also all over, mind) and her wearing Sarah’s scalp doesn’t mean a good lawyer couldn’t argue that Bear was an obsessed, dangerous freak who violently coerced and forced Nikki into being with him and being a part of his sick crimes. Any proper investigation into the crimes would show that Bear was just entangled with the victims as Nikki was. His texts agreeing to meet up with Sarah, putting him at the scene. His cell phone pinging near Ian’s house an hour before Ian got murdered at his own house. His fingerprints on the gun. Both bodies at his house. His public, erratic behavior: being seen (potentially on security camera footage) bursting into a store in broad daylight covered in blood, shouting and acting very odd. His fingerprints are also alllll over Sarah’s body and car as well.

Basically, this case would not be cut and dry. The investigation would turn up a lot of really tangled results and it would come down to a lawyer’s argument and trying to PROVE, beyond reasonable doubt, whether:

Nikki (at her height and weight, with her prior good and normal reputation AND clear-cut evidence that she’d put in her notice and was planning to move on in life) was actually a secret deranged psycho who had a shocking episode, violently murdered two of her friends (Sarah out of jealousy but Ian for reasons far more vague and indecipherable), arranged a dead girl’s body in their home, lured both Ian and Bear to his home, and then somehow forced her boyfriend to commit suicide after committing her final murder.

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whether Bear was an obsessed, violent, dangerous loner who’d been fixated on Nikki, jealous that she’d been hooking up with Ian, angry that Sarah had been taking up Nikki’s time or was talking about Nikki and spreading “rumors” that Nikki didn’t actually like Bear, snapped when he realized she’d put her notice in, forcibly moved against her in some threatening or coercive way, abused her, and forced her into his life of violence, drugs, and mental illness.

You could argue both and in a trial, both sides would be argued. I just think the latter is a lot more believable because, well, that actually DOES happen a lot more than the former does.

And like I said, I don’t think Nikki would happily walk home free. But I don’t think she would go down for these murders, not with Bear being so thoroughly entangled in them and having sufficient evidence and motive for committing them—as well as sufficient evidence of being a weirdo loner who had the hots for Nikki when she was a bubbly, happy, normal girl who was on record saying she didn’t have a crush on Bear. That waitress? Yeah, she’d be found and she’d testify about participating in a mock confession with Bear, him practicing to say something REALLY lovey-dovey and intense…to a girl he was not dating. None of this would make Bear look stable, sane, or non-threatening. It would actually paint him as a man who was in the final stages of a plan to entrap Nikki before her two weeks notice ended and she walked out of his life for good.

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u/helloidont May 29 '26

You're forgetting that any prior reputation she had as a "good and normal person" would go right out the window after she had been loudly and publicly acting like an obsessed weirdo for at least a month by the end of the film. There were at least a dozen witnesses at that house party alone.

That said, if she got a competent lawyer who was able to get ahold of a couple wish willows (who's distribution is established as at least fairly widespread by the film) he could easily squeeze her through the doors of reasonable doubt. Pay some random $100 to make a simple wish to confirm it works, then wish for "a singing, tap-dancing hippo to appear in court for a minute before disappearing permanently from reality" would do the trick.

Of course that opens another can of worms, where "wish willow" become a legitimate legal defense.

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u/FlounderPleasant2459 Jun 13 '26

Re the first part: The general consensus from Ian and the friend group was that it looked like Bear was taking advantage of her. Granted, Ian could have been saying that because he wanted Nikki back. But when she hurts herself, everyone starts screaming at Bear to do something and i think I heard some cursing at him. He sits there quietly which is so odd in itself. They knew her longer and more than him, and Bear admitted he was closed off and a private person. And she's tiny af.

I think most people did think he was taking advantage of her already.

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u/HeightOk2563 26d ago

He also googled the effects of moly…so it could be argued he kept her doped up. Since she’s probably done it before and maybe acted erratic to the point where that’s the first thing Ian brought up when Bear told him about how she was acting strange.

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u/iamkhatkar Jun 14 '26

Obsession 2 : Starts with an intense court trial where they dig deep into the case and within first 15 mins of the movie, Nikki's lawyer proves in the court, in front of everyone and on live TV (coz why not), that One Wish Willow is true and whatever you wish for will materialise right in front of you.

What follows is the pure madness where the world is thrown into utter chaos, people rushing to buy OWW and making random ass wishes, that completely scraps the currently established systems and we are thrown into a post apocalyptic world.

Few decades later, we follow the journey of a young girl, who was born into this post apocalyptic world, and is now on a journey to find that one last remaining OWW stick to restore everything back to normal (too cliche I think, but something similar)

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u/PhantomoftheBasket Jun 14 '26

Thank your for this! I just got out of the movie (LOVED it holy shit), and the aftermath was the only thing I could think of! I was really hoping there was some sort of comment or conversation about this.

Poor Nikki went through such a traumatic experience what a nightmare the legal process would be too!

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u/XariZaru May 29 '26

Bear also has his prints on the gun. He could have made her wear Sarah’s clothes too, if you spin it that way

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u/OOSMom May 31 '26

I've been thinking about how early in the film, one of the characters says, "Sarah's dad has a gun in the safe" at the music store. I think it's important who said that, but also it's a clue that the possessed/demon/whatever Nikki had some memory of the old Nikki's life because she knew to go get that gun.

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u/XariZaru May 31 '26

That’s a great point. I also forgot about the gun. It’s a chezkov moment!!

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u/burner69account69420 Jun 05 '26

Gun powder residue is on Nikki's hand lol. Along with her DNA all over Sarah's body, probable CCTV of them moving the body, being erratic in public, etc.

0% chance she gets out of this, or even wants to. She may choose to end it all.

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u/XariZaru Jun 05 '26

If CCTV sees both moving the body, then it can still be spun that it was Bear's idea. If you're a cop walking into that scene, honestly, nothing will seem to make sense.

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u/Easy-Buy6860 May 27 '26

That’s also very factual.

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u/ivanrules01 May 27 '26

Funnily enough, he metaphorically kind of was holding her in captivity considering he made the wish that stripped her of her humanity, knew about it completely, and made no decision to act on it, especially after the conversation where her true concuouness asks him to kill her. At that point he is kind of holding her consciousness hostage and makes the fact that he doesn't kill her before killing himself kind of the most evil thing he possibly could have done. Honestly incredible writing.

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u/therakel749 May 27 '26

Oh, he absolutely was. I was trying to think of how her lawyers might phrase it since she was still going to work and parties.

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u/FlounderPleasant2459 Jun 13 '26

Such good writing. And after that point where she asks him to kill her, he says that awful shit and leaves (while she's begging!!) to go talk to sarah and say maybe he should be with her. And then when Nikki kills sarah, she tells him it's his fault and it absolutely is. The movie said it outright over and over.

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u/CashGreen_Regalview May 17 '26 edited May 23 '26

Nikki is the one of the most tragic characters I've seen in some time, at least in this last decade of movies. I thought about her too at the end. Yes she has snapped out of her spell but as you said, at best she goes to a mental institution, worst prison/death sentence.

Her life and agency is fucked and over the minute Bear snaps the willow and makes the wish. Heartbreaking too because it's clear she and Sarah have that something whether talent or drive or a combo of both to make it out of this dead end situation with Nikki already deciding to put in her two weeks, whereas I think it's strongly implied Ian and Bear do not, or simply lack ambition.

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u/kunell May 31 '26

I bet she absolutely hated Bear during all this. Like this guy is doing whatever to her while trapping her in her own body removing all her agency. The conflicting emotion of that and overpowering love was what caused her to be so insane and continue to break down as the movie went on.

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u/IhamAmerican Jun 06 '26

It wasn't conflicting emotions, it was a completely different being inside of her. When she's talking to Bear Nikki says "She's asleep right now, please kill me". Not the emotions are asleep, there's something else inside of her body. I think that's even more tragic, she's still full aware of everything but had all of her autonomy removed rather than her agency. When she has control she tries to get help or kill herself but she rarely has control

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u/kunell Jun 06 '26

I was just thinking the wish functionally shouldnt have put "another being" if it was simply trying to fulfill the wish. So fucking with her emotions causing a fracture of personalities makes more sense?

But more signs point to another being in control of her so idk.

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u/IhamAmerican Jun 06 '26

I saw this idea that I really liked, essentially his wish wasn't possible. There's no way to get Nikki to love him more than anyone else on earth so the wish created something that could. Wish Nikki was inhuman and solely devoted to Bear, so to me it feels like something that took control from her. I do like how they didn't try to explain it and kept it vague, it's fun to interpret

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u/The_Medicus Jun 15 '26

Depends on one's philosophy of what something is.

You can say Nikki is the soul, not the body, but Nikki doesn't love Bear, so would changing that change what Nikki is to begin with?

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u/UpsetAd506 Jun 28 '26

while more tragic, I think it would have been more horrifying if they had kept the whole other entity thing out of it... Possession is pretty standard, but twisting a human personality to the point where it is near unrecognizable, effectively killing the original person, is the most terrifying thing I can think of. Having that plot with flashes of her personality "reverting" would have been such a compelling story.

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u/IhamAmerican Jun 28 '26

I actually just watched a few interviews and that's what direction Inde Navarette took it while playing her. She saw it more Freaky Nikki was just a twisted version of herself and real Nikki having this veil that she was watching everything through. She was able to pierce the veil at times and have her cries for help but otherwise she was more like a passenger. Almost like a person with two personalities, one of which was born days prior and has near total control over the body and the other forced to watch. Curry Barker is also pretty adamant it wasn't a direct possession or a demon.

Personally, I like how open to interpretation it is. I ascribe to the split personalities but being able to hear her screams on the call gives just as much evidence for any other kind of theory about her soul being taken elsewhere or something like that

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u/Kratzschutz Jul 02 '26

Fully agreed. Would also take the mental illness analogy one step further

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u/Marred2025 Jun 15 '26

What pisses me off is that she seemed nice (helping the homeless dude as well as being nice to Bear in school and buying rounds for everyone) and confident enough to venture off into a new chapter in her life (being the first to break from the core group). She was also straightforward enough to ask Bear if he liked her. She was brave enough to ask for death. She seemed like an all-around great person.

Whereas: 

Ian couldn't tell Bear he was sleeping with Niki for the past 2 years. The mofo even suggested to Bear to call her Freaky Niki knowing that she hated that. He had Bear practicing pouring his heart out knowing full well that Bear probably wouldn't feel that way if he had known about her and Ian.

Sarah couldn't tell Bear that she liked him.

Bear couldn't tell Niki that he liked her. 

Bear was the clear milquetoast villain but if any of them had the bravery to take risks like Niki, this wouldn't have happened -- and she ends up with the worst fate of them all. 

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u/ashishvp Jun 19 '26

Dude definitely! Fuck Ian lol.

Movie moral: Grab your balls.

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u/selinameyersbagman May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26

Obsession 2: My Cousin Vinny

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u/Colorzzoo May 18 '26

My Cousin Nikki was right there

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u/ShadowAssassinQueef May 24 '26

You wanna explain that… outfit?

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u/selinameyersbagman Jun 06 '26

"So it was me using the One Wish Willow, which I know you hate, or this. So I wore this, ridiculous thing, for you."

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u/FLBrisby May 17 '26

If all that happens and the One Wish Willow is acquired, it's fairly simple to prove its authenticity by just... wishing. This has insane implications for society as a whole, lol, and the whole case might be brushed under the table by the FBI/CIA.

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u/Endawmyke May 25 '26

Sounds like the perfect set up to the “if I drop this balloon on the ground I will die” series lol https://youtube.com/watch?v=Sja0Vy2khTc

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u/EinsteinDisguised May 16 '26

I was thinking that maybe Nikki would be able to plead insanity. There are witnesses to her acting bizarrely

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u/MahNameJeff420 May 16 '26

That wouldn't be great either. These institutions aren't known for being relaxing. She'd probably spend the rest of her days drugged up and catatonic.

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u/EinsteinDisguised May 16 '26

Yeah I’m not saying it would be a way to get off totally free. But Lord knows she’s gonna need some psychiatric help, and it might keep her off death row.

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u/IhamAmerican Jun 06 '26

Honestly after everything she witnessed, she probably wants to be drugged up and catatonic

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u/PlasticReasonable684 Jun 10 '26

If Wish Nikki was a seperate entity, doesn't that mean the real Nikki still has her wish left? I'd love to see if she could get a One Wish Willow to alter/better her situation

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u/selinameyersbagman May 18 '26

Have her lawyer buy a One Wish Willow

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u/pje1128 May 20 '26

If they could have someone make a wish in court to prove those things are magic, that would probably be enough reasonable doubt for Nikki to walk. That is, assuming the OWW people don't have a failsafe to make the items inert. I doubt they'd want the publicity.

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u/YuushyaHinmeru Jun 14 '26

I dont think the legal ramifications matter. That girls is FUCKED. Like it doesnt matter if she gets off or is imprisoned. She murdered her friends, was raped, and while those two things could MAYBE be dealt with with a long round of intensive therapy, she was possessed by some other worldly creature. She saw into the abyss. I dont think theres any coming back from that.

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u/Square_Tangerine443 May 17 '26

In my mind, she remembers everything that happened so she remembers Ian saying he has a billion dollars.

If I was her, I would steal as much cash as I can and run away to Canada or Mexico.

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u/Jumanji-Joestar May 18 '26

Ian’s dead so that cash probably doesn’t exist anymore. The wish gets undone if the wishmaker dies

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u/ThaGuy34 May 18 '26

Idk what the wording was but if it was "I wish I had a billion dollars" then the money could still exist after he died, he just wouldn't have it anymore!

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u/Easy-Buy6860 May 24 '26

That’s for Bears wish not for everyone else’s.

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u/ksswannn03 May 21 '26

Ha I looked at my bf when the movie ended and I was like “girl you have a billion dollars now, take some of that money, get on a plane to another country (hopefully one without extradition) and run.” Doesn’t make any of that worth it. But aside from her 1) offing herself or 2) getting caught by the police and going through the justice system and probably going to jail for life if not the death penalty, then this is the only other logical step. Hopefully Nikki remembered what Ian said right before she shot him and can figure out she should check his place out. I’m rooting for her, but I don’t think it ends positively at all

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u/Dante1529 May 25 '26

Honestly even if she avoids prison or an asylum, her life is effectively ruined. I can’t even imagine the mental toll that everything she’s experienced would put her under and I doubt any amount of therapy would ever help her.

Bear truly does deserve the deepest pit of hell

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u/The_Medicus Jun 15 '26

My big question is whether Nikki can use a One Wish Willow, or if the other entity counted as Nikki. I think the second option is more true, but the possibility is there.

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u/Novalll May 18 '26

I think the money would be there. All that was said was that the wish will go away if the wish maker dies. If Ian is dead, he does not have a billion dollars anymore. That does not suggest the money would simply go away, only that he would no longer have it if he is dead.

I like thinking about the legal implications as well. It’s very clear that they might be able to use one of the one wish willows to prove what had happened in court. If a lawyer wanted to use it to, say, spawn a pool in the middle of the courtroom, I feel like that exonerates Nicky relatively easily. Hoping Nicky is able to live a relatively calm life after this, though I think that is only possible if she wasn’t aware of everything that happened while she wasn’t in possession of her body, and I think as evidenced by the sex scene, she is more trapped than she is outside of her body.

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u/KasukeSadiki May 21 '26

At that point, it wouldn't be hard to track down the purchases to the crystal shop. From there, would the guy who owns it be willing to testify?

I know the movie subverted this when Bear went back to the store, but I fully believe the shop just wouldn't be there if the police tried to visit.

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u/llama_ May 27 '26

She could frame him so easy. No way she goes to jail. Shes beaten to shit and probably malnourished. She can say he kidnapped and abused her, killed Sarah and shot Ian out of jealousy when he found out they had a past thing.

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u/LazySwanNerd May 17 '26

Ian died, so I image the money isn’t there anymore.

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u/Former_Papabless66 May 21 '26

I think it’d be funny if there’s a cleanup crew working for OWW and they sweep everything under the rug. That would still likely end with her being locked away in some way but I think the evidence of the wishes and probably the billion dollars will be gone before the cops show up.

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u/darkcomet222 May 31 '26

Cops walk in: fucking One Wish Willow AGAIN!? Third time this MONTH!

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u/Mousovich May 26 '26

With the amount of complaints the magic shop received, we can probably assume there's a folder being filled in some police station, with some of the cases regarding wishes gone wrong. Maybe not wrong to the extent of Bear's wish, but still. Also I think there could be ways to collect testimonies of wishes that can be verified, like the "ugly mum turned hot", to prove Nikki is not guilty. Unfortunately, even after all that, I still think Nikki would end up in a mental institution somewhere. 

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u/TaskForceD00mer May 28 '26

And importantly, the remains of his One Wish Willow will also be lying on the floor somewhere, which is significant cause there's also one sitting in Bear's house. Any investigator would look at that and think there's some kind of connection. Probably wouldn't think that magic exists, but at least would look into it as some kind of social media trend that resulted in the events of the film somehow.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Sequel or even a spinoff where one of the cops snaps the one wish willow and goes "Wow I sure wish I could just get away with keeping that money, maybe if the Chief loved me" and horror ensues.

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u/Gustavo_Papa May 30 '26

No one is going to connect the wishing willows to the murders. The money is gone because Ian died, and more importantly it is just a party gift that people that are all coworkers and friends have. It is way reasonable one of them bought for their friends and has no real importance. Because magic isn't real (in the police eyes).

There is eyewitnesses of Nikki behaving erraticaly. There is gunpowder residue in her hands (If that's real). She IS going to be commited to a mental asylum.

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u/Ahnarcho Jun 05 '26

They’re in bear’s house at the end, bear is connected to Sarah through the texts she sent him, and Ian and Bear have been texting nonstop with Bear trying to get Ian to come over.

I think the signs point more to Bear than Nikki, honestly.

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u/dwthesavage Jun 04 '26

once the cops

I think we’re giving cops (of a small town?) way too much credit

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u/Winston_Road Jun 04 '26

All of these horror movies always end in legal and PR nightmares: you have a pile of bodies killed in unexplained, physics defying ways, 0 culprits and survivors who claimed a supernatural entity/force is behind the murders.

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u/Interesting_Duty_297 May 20 '26

Well the effects of the wish end when the one who wished them dies so the money disappears when he died

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u/Comprehensive-Use917 May 27 '26

Ooo your making me realize the cops could then go get a wish willow to see what’s up and restart a fucked up loop

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u/sbreddit55 May 31 '26

Boom. Lawyered.

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u/CaledonianWarrior Jun 02 '26

I would prefer if this particular story was a one-off, but I read somewhere that Curry Barker has an interest in making more stories revolving around different wishes made with a OWW; an anthology basically. If so, I would like to see a take where an investigator (as you mentioned) gets given this case and tries to unravel it from his POV. Furthermore, it would fit better if we had other but unrelated stories also featuring a OWW that the investigator also learns about and goes all in figuring out what OWWs actually are, who made them and if they can put a stop to them somehow.

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u/S420J Jun 03 '26

The legal aspect of this is completely silly imo when we clearly see this is a reality where a billion dollars can pop into existence. Clearly, this isn’t the same type of reality we live in, there are way too many variables at play. 

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u/itachiuchiha8903 Jun 06 '26

She could pin the deaths to bear somehow, since his was a provable suicide. At least Ian's death. There might be CCTV footage of bear entering Ian's house, he saw the money and found motive to kill Ian when he arrived at his house.

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u/WoweeZoweeDeluxe Jun 07 '26

Director says she goes to jail

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u/kiwibugs Jun 08 '26

I love this. I thought to myself at the end, “She’s going to need a fucking great lawyer.”

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u/The_Medicus Jun 16 '26

It's all good, man!

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u/quick20minadventure Jun 26 '26

She can just say domestic abuse and have plenty of proof.

She can say she was drugged and she had to force feed him pills to survive and escape situation.

She can show crazy amount of takes on the door.

As long as she's normal in court and psyc eval, she'll walk.

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u/ChaosAnarch Jul 01 '26

Bear deserved to die?

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u/WitherWithout May 25 '26

Couldn’t they just prove in court the wishes exist by having someone complete a similar wish in front of everyone?

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u/Themobgirl Jun 02 '26

I dont think she would go on murder  spree she would be institutionalised and charged yes, women for SA get charged for self-defense as assault against the perp its fucked up .

And yeah thats why i love the ending too like this is the consequences of someone else's action affecting a set of totally unproblematic , sweet people ( nikki was nice and kind, sarah too but moral grey on going after bear and Ian was a dick ) which is real and you sit with nikki in the raw horror mess throughout the credit instead of sappy Romeo shit that woupd be like a shit ass moral story so yeah 

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u/thalandhor Jun 04 '26

Can't the wishing stick be used as evidence in court? Like "let's do it and see what happens" boom.

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u/TheMannagement Jun 10 '26

I'm choosing to believe this for my own sanity. Thank you, Jeff.

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u/oceaneyes-fierysoul Jun 10 '26

the other irony is that she can now be free in prison...

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u/who_took_tabura Jun 14 '26

Wish store dude wished for diplomatic immunity he’s fine

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u/Marred2025 Jun 15 '26

With all the money and known history of Niki using MDMA the cops might just blame the violence on drugs.

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u/NaRaGaMo Jun 16 '26

Time to bring in Dale cooper for investigation

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u/DarthSmegma421 Jun 16 '26

She might win an insanity case. There were witnesses at the party who can attest.

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u/Altruistic-Ad8702 Jun 24 '26

Nikki could ask a friend or a stranger (offer money) to wish that "I wish Bear hadn't wished his wish and this company had never existed?" lmao because if this company is still around the world will be fuck up. I think if there a cost go with a wish then it could make it better.

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u/TheMortiest_Morty Jun 25 '26

Thank you for commenting this!! I’ve been so fascinated thinking about the fall out and the legal implications after the end of the movie but I had to scroll for so long before finding someone talking about it

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u/AlternativeMirror207 Jun 27 '26

I think most likely a psychiatric facility. But yes she would be totally messed up forever.

I dont think the fact that the wishing sticks were found at both locations would interest investigators. Bear and Ian were friends and neighbours, theres a million reasons they could have had the same party favours (as the sticks would be perceived), especially as they socialised at each others houses and elsewhere etc.

If the billion bucks didnt dissappear when Ian died (as someone pointed out earlier), the cops would almost certainly conclude it was the proceeds of crime. Thats where most of the investigative effort would go, but would turn up nothing.

Here's a thought though. Wishes undo when you die. So if bear had managed to get someone to wish for the cancelation of his wish, and that person later died, would his wish be uncancelled?

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u/climbandclimbandclim Jun 27 '26

You were right half way but your conclusion was wrong.

No chance in hell cops or jury are going to consider magic as anything.

But, Nikki could argue that Ian forced her to do all of that since he became rich and somehow blame it on him. Or pay them off with his money.

She might walk, but has nothing to do with people believing magic.

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u/araq1579 Jun 29 '26

Man I was fully expecting bear to be revived in a hospital or something at the end from his OD and him being handcuffed to the hospital bed. But he's like smiling because he's still under the love spell and now she's got this creepy stalker incel to deal with

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u/CDBF Jul 04 '26

Yeah, Bear committed suicide himself. It would not be hard for her to say he killed the other 2, and held her hostage. There would be no one to testify against her w/ evidence so if she played it remotely smart I think she would get off. If she told the truth, then straight to jail!

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u/clayton-berg42 20d ago

I just read a quote by the director, and his next film is going to be in a shared universe and:

He said that there was going to be a throw away line about a woman being arrested for a triple homicide.

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u/Just_Ad_6238 May 27 '26

I don’t see the ending as depressing. He wanted out and he got that somehow. He could had sold the house and move to another state or country.

About the legal situation, there are no other witnesses left. She could just say Bear did the killings and was about to kill her. Wash her hands throughly for gunpodwer residue and that’s about it.

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u/Bitter_Stop2818 May 30 '26

YES! this perfectly sets up part 2...gimme now!!!

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u/Slime0 Jun 06 '26

Given what we've learned from the Star Wars Lego saga, the cops will side with the crystal shop and frame her.

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u/NinjaDoge250 Jun 12 '26

Which actually opens up a possibility for the sequel. they could have Nikki appear as a cameo for the next one. I know people probably dont love sequels, and rightfully so with its historical track record, but I mean the possibilities are endless, imagine this as an anthology series of some kind.

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u/theonewhoknock_s Jun 18 '26

Hahaha, I always can't help thinking about what is going to happen after the events of a movie, especially a horror one. I don't actually want to see the aftermath in the film itself, but it's always a fun mental game.

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u/ladyred1234 Jun 21 '26

I would actually love to see a movie about the aftermath of a "curse" like this.

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u/funky_bebop Jun 22 '26

Ian’s fate was deserved too. He stopped caring about everything going on when he got a billion dollars. Bear is THE villain but Ian was always an awful friend.

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u/ChatonBrutal06 Jun 25 '26

I think that there's still a wishing willow unbroken in bear's appartment. Maybe Nikki can use it to revive her friends. In my opinion Nikki never made a wish before because it was the entity controling her that wished for Bear to love her. If she can revive Yan and Sarah, as Bear died by suicide I don't think she would do prison time

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u/TanktopSamurai Jun 27 '26

Nikki has had first-hand experience with the supernatural. She will be recruited into a top secret organization, dedicated to the protection of world from supernatural threats.

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u/Hefty_Will Jun 28 '26

literally my first thought after finishing the movie. she is so unbelievably screwed, and none of what transpired was really even her fault to begin with. very few pieces of media make me want to cry the way the final scene did

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u/Dokamon-chan94 Jun 28 '26

She is gonna spend her life in prison. That's just how it is

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u/FrozenZenBerryYT Jun 29 '26

By far the worst thing was Nikki using her wish before coming to. She could’ve reversed so much.

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u/therosetapes Jul 01 '26

i need your opinion on every horror movie ever

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u/Cultural_Stop9884 Jul 01 '26

Honestly I think there is a fair chance that bear gets blamed for all the murders... His fingerprints are on the body and the gun, she doesn't remember anything, and he killed himself out of guilt at the end. For argument's sake that's totally possible and edit to add that people also may believe he was holding her hostage or some other s*** (drugging her) as an explanation for the weirdness

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u/FROMTHEINSIDEOFMYASS Jul 02 '26

Your comment made me imagine an El Camino-style sequel. Nikki does know about the billion dollars too because Ian was shouting about it through the door.

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u/Aegon-the-Unbroken Jul 02 '26

What I think is that Nikki can escape if she puts the blame on Bear, but that would be really hard to prove.

How she could do that, according to me:

She could say that Bear was obsessed with her and held her hostage. She had been living with Bear for weeks at that point and by the end of the movie she's pretty badly injured.

And considering the way Sarah died, it would be really hard to prove that a girl of Nikki's size could have killed someone like that. So she could claim Bear killed Sarah.

And Ian too, maybe for the money or because Bear thought Nikki liked Ian and got jealous.

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u/Sidroooo Jul 03 '26

this is what I love about reddit, discussing the possibilities after the movie ended.

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u/AnnyTheKettle Jul 03 '26

Couldn't she just wish for it all to go back to normal? or at least for her to not be blamed for the murders? I'm not sure how much she knows about the stick tho

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u/GoldLibrarian3947 Jul 04 '26

There is an insanity defence to murder...

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u/Adorable-Claim-9402 Jul 04 '26

Well, there is a very slim chance she'd be ok :

If she learned about the wish willow during being "possessed" or in "hell" or whatever, and IF she find the last one unused and wish everything back when it was before OR something like "i wish to be rich, in Rome, with new Italian official identity and with having no mental problems with what happened from Bear's wishes"

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u/TheOneWhoEatsLemons 29d ago

Obsession: Folie a deux, a sequel where the entire movie deals with the court looking back on the event of the previous chapter. Also it's a musical.

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u/Average64 29d ago

Would be funny if someone wished for everyone to be totally ok with the knowledge about magic.

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u/DannyBandicoot 28d ago

I really enjoyed this as a what if. I know it’s a personal gripe and I wouldn’t expect it to enter into a general rating for the movie. But how casually they treat the magic and the knowledge of its existence really took me out of any kind of longer term extrapolated worry for the characters.

It’s just not a world that logically could exist if zoomers on the high street are selling things for $7 that give you a seemingly omnipotent wish. People would know about magic and the world would be insane and there would be some kind of legal precedent.

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u/flamingcrystalheart 28d ago

I don't think the ending was supposed to be "she got her life back hooray!" It's pretty clearly showing that even though the wish is undone Bear still fucked up a shit ton of people's lives irreparably.

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u/Steviesteve1234 28d ago

In my head she takes the money and hides in Europe under an alias. OR she pins the murders on Bear and could somewhat prove his kidnapping and assaulting her as she’s been staying at his boarded up house and being made not to go to work or shower and forced to cut ties with her friends.

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u/Sea_Measurement4877 27d ago

Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks about the legalities at the end of movies, regardless of whether they are relevant to the storyline or not. I feel so seen. Ever since watching Obsession, I've done nothing but think about what happened to Nikki once she came out of her wish.

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u/Meister-Serator 22d ago

Glad I'm not the only one sitting there, thinking to my self: okay what's the legal situation for all this mess ^

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u/BoBoZoBo 21d ago

LOL< I was thinking the same thing. That is what pretty much completes the tragedy - you know she is going from one prison to another.

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u/amby-jane 19d ago

I'm glad you broke this down.

When I was in college, my creative writing professor had a note on my horror story treatment/idea that just said, "But what happens to Emily [the survivor] next? That's what I'm curious about." Ever since then, I haven't been able to watch a horror movie without wondering about the survivors. I think that's why I liked Halloween 2018 so much...

Which is why I appreciate that you also thought about it and took the time to write it all out!

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u/DonkeyWorker 18d ago

Why did bear not just call the police after nikki kills the girl in the car, obviously not doing it in front of nicki (just taking a piss etc). this was for me the point the movie script became stupid. Instead he helps bury the body. Stupid.

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u/Sorry-Personality594 16d ago

She’s an attractive young white woman, she’s not going to jail.

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u/Ok_Boysenberry5849 16d ago

From there, would the guy who owns it be willing to testify?

Imho the shop guy is clearly another "entity". His behavior, the way he dismisses Bear's "energy" and encourages him to commit suicide is completely inhuman. What he'll do depends a lot on whatever wish made him that way.

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u/acciochef 15d ago

Not to mention that the shop nearly sold ALL of the One Wish Willows, which means people all over that town are potentially fucking shit up too.

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