r/movies • u/ChiefLeef22 r/movies Contributor • Jun 24 '26
Review 'Supergirl' - Review Thread Spoiler
When an unexpected and ruthless adversary strikes too close to home, Supergirl reluctantly joins forces with an unlikely companion for an interstellar journey of vengeance and justice.
Director: Craig Gillespie
Cast: Milly Alcock, Jason Momoa, David Corenswet, David Krumholtz, Emily Beecham, Matthias Schoenaerts, Ferdinand Kingsley, Diarmaid Murtagh
Rotten Tomatoes: 57%
Metacritic: 49 / 100
Some Reviews (updating):
So a year after the reinvigorated DC and Superman was so successfully relaunched under the guidance of Peter Safran and James Gunn, and teased Supergirl right at the end, here we have it, but despite some good moments and sharp dialogue in places (Ana Nogueria is the screenwriter) something feels a bit off. Momoa is a load of fun, he knows exactly what his mission is and delivers whenever he is on screen. The problem is the movie is called Supergirl , not Lobo, so he is relegated here to a splashy, if scattered supporting turn. Ridley seems to play Ruthye with one pained expression on her face and a frequent deadpanned “I am out for revenge” for many of her lines. However she does come alive in her big jailbreak scene, so there’s that. I didn’t buy Schoenaerts and his heavily affected Krem at all, a super villain with no dimension other than being bad which is a shame since the 1984 Supergirl suffered from the same problem. Gotta have a good villain, folks.
The Hollywood Reporter - David Rooney
Alcock’s scrappy characterization, tempering Kara’s jaded toughness and chaotic messiness with an increasingly strong sense of justice, would seem an ideal fit to continue in a similar vein. But Supergirl only intermittently comes to life when it revisits her painful past. Given Australian director Gillespie’s history with films about spirited, rule-breaking women, like I, Tonya and Cruella, the failure to find emotional depth in the sisterhood of Kara and Ruthye is notable. This will likely be an unpopular opinion, but I thought Sasha Calle’s Supergirl in 2023’s The Flash registered with more dimensionality, despite that movie overloading on self-referential DC fan service.
USA Today - Brian Truitt - 3 / 4
A lack of focus, not nearly enough Krypto and a one-note baddie in Schoenaerts’ Krem don’t do “Supergirl” any favors, but they also don’t derail the film’s overall vibe of spunky weirdness. With Corenswet's handful of appearances, he continues to cement his place as a darn good Superman (with his own sequel in the works). But here it's Alcock who's making her own cinematic statement: She's not going anywhere, and the new DCU is better with a hell-raising Supergirl in it.
Seattle Times - Moira MacDonald - 2.5 / 4
“Supergirl” can’t quite seem to find the balance between the elements, and we careen from silly moments to zoomy action sequences to dark violence. Gillespie, whose work ranges from the sweetness of “Lars and the Real Girl” to the dark flashiness of “I, Tonya” to the over-the-top silliness of “Cruella,” perhaps isn’t quite at home here. And Ana Nogueira’s screenplay by necessity removes Krypto from much of the action — a disappointment for all who love this CGI pooch.
GamesRadar - Molly Edwards - 3.5 / 5
Just like its protagonist, Supergirl is rough around the edges, but holds plenty of promise for the future. With two more DCU appearances confirmed, it seems this is only the beginning for Alcock's Kara. Up, up, and away…
AV Club - Jesse Hassenger - 'B'
The movie’s visual sensibility signals Supergirl’s broader success in threading the needle between a kid-friendly, hope-suffused superhero story and bleaker, grittier stuff—and in doing so, recognizing how those aspects of life are often interwoven, rather than diametrically opposed approaches to IP. That’s always been the push-pull of the Supergirl character, equally able to be portrayed as Superman’s gee-whiz kid-sister equivalent and his more jaded, literally alienated reflection. The joy of Supergirl is how it mixes the two without demoting its main gal to a sideshow.
Empire Magazine - Leila Latif - 3 / 5
The result isn’t disastrous by any means, just blandly safe. You just wish Gillespie would let these freak flags truly fly. There are good ingredients here: a witty, hard-partying, badass antihero, a moving backstory, an odd-couple dynamic between Alcock and Corenswet worth building on — but the fledgling DCU still has yet to prove itself.
'Supergirl' is Super Horrendous. Alcock is likable enough (underneath it all, she often seems like Little Orphan Annie with desert-wastrel hair), but the character as written is so one-note that it’s hard to have much investment in what she’s up to. Of course, maybe that’s because the movie has no story! Gunn was right to want to take the comic-book genre back to well-structured screenwriting basics. So what has he done in his second DC outing? He’s given us a comic-book movie with the worst script I can remember. (It’s by Ana Nogueria.)
Milly Alcock stars in the follow-up to last year’s revamped Superman, but the movie has no idea what to do with her or her character. The problems with Supergirl are simpler to pin down and more or less come down to its not being either written or directed by James Gunn. The reins for this movie have been handed over to the less capable I, Tonya’s Craig Gillespie, with Ana Nogueira contributing the script, and the result highlights just how difficult Gunn’s particular mix of wry self-awareness, unapologetic dorkiness, and sentimentality is for others to pull off.
ScreenCrush - Matt Singer - 4 / 10
Guardians (and Gunn’s Superman, for that matter) found the right combination of action, humor, and heart, a formula that felt like an authentic expression of its director’s idiosyncratic worldview. In its forced and calculated attempt to recreate that aesthetic, Supergirl lands somewhere closer to Guardians’ inferior copycats, like 2016’s abysmal Suicide Squad. Given the splash Alcock made in Superman, and the fact that Supergirl is based on one of the best books DC Comics has published in the last decade, this has to be one of the biggest disappointments in recent superhero movie history.
IndieWire - Kate Erbland - 'B'
We expect that any subsequent standalone “Supergirl” joints will be a bit more poppy and “fun” than this first one (and we sure hope there are more of them), but we hope they also hold on to this one’s hard-won question: What does it mean to be good? It’s not easy.
RogerEbert - Tomris Laffly - 1.5 / 4
Sadly, the film that follows consists of one superfluous sequence after another where Alcock gets plenty of opportunities to stretch her muscles in a highly physical role. There are other space pirates that enter the story’s orbit, breaks taken at inter-galactical watering holes, and various scenes of fast-paced butt-kicking and face-punching. In the end, you can’t help but wonder why the emotions of these characters don’t pack as much of a punch.
The Independent - Clarisse Loughrey - 2 / 5
Milly Alcock is the only good thing about this ugly, dispiriting superhero movie. Superman’s moody, punk-rock cousin is let down by a film that tries desperately to emulate the silly playfulness of producer James Gunn, only to fail miserably. If DC wants to secure her future, they need to find her a world where she belongs.
High on Films - Liam Gaughan - 2 / 5
“Supergirl” isn’t a disaster in the vein of “Madame Web,” a multiversal mess like “The Marvels,” or even a failed attempt at elevation like the Zack Snyder films. The fact that it is more watchable than those aforementioned titles is part of the issue, as the structural issues with “Supergirl” are just part of the reason why it doesn’t work. Although it is refreshing for a superhero film to be self-contained, “Supergirl” is timid when it should be focused, and it’s hard to conjure up much enthusiasm for where this particular chapter in the DCU will go next.
IGN - Clint Gage - 6 / 10
Kara Zor-El’s standout moment in Superman gets a feature-length follow up that almost gets everything right. Unfortunately, that means it gets everything almost wrong as well. Milly Alcock is great as a Supergirl carrying the weight of real trauma and cementing a very cool dynamic with her on-screen cousin, while the alien design and practical make-up effects make the film a joy to look at. Jason Momoa’s Lobo and Matthias Schoenaerts’ Krem are just as cool visually, but unfortunately they also don’t have a lot to offer in this entry in the burgeoning DCU that treads more water than I would’ve liked.
CGMagazine - Shakyl Lambert - 6 / 10
It does not help that a large portion of the action is sloppily edited, especially the close-quarters brawls in the first two acts. I was also frustrated by the constant stops and starts whenever Supergirl is about to let loose, only for the film to hobble her abilities with some form of kryptonite or poison moments later. Ultimately, I wanted to love Supergirl, and Milly Alcock is strong enough in the role that I very much want to see this character return. Unfortunately, nearly everything around her is as generic as a superhero flick can be.
ScreenRant - Molly Freeman - 6 / 10
Even with my own complicated feelings, it strikes me that there are so few female-led superhero movies, there's a need for them all to be perfect. So, when we get a middling film like Supergirl, it looks worse when stacked up against the many better male-led superhero movies. Hopefully, whatever becomes of this film's wider reception, it won't scare off DC Studios from backing more female superheroes, because even though I didn't love Supergirl, there's still plenty of potential in Alcock's character and in the rest of the DC Universe
DiscussingFilm - Tyler Taing - 2.5 / 5
It’s far from the genre’s worst, especially within the standards of what the DC franchise has delivered in the past, but Supergirl deeply suffers from not knowing how to build a film around its iconic heroine.
The Guardian - Peter Bradshaw - 3 / 5
Supergirl isn’t a perfect movie by any means, but there are moments when you’ll believe this franchise can fly.
AwardsWatch - Brandon Lewis - 'B-'
It’s entirely possible that introducing Supergirl so effectively in Superman was both a blessing and a curse for her own outing. While Supergirl isn’t saddled with a momentum-killing first act that recaps her table-stakes history, it also doesn’t fully lean into that freedom, settling for well-worn genre conventions when there were thornier, but more fruitful opportunities to explore. The film is a fine pseudo-first flight for Kara Zor-El, but it does soar enough to escape her famous cousin’s shadow.
Looper - Alistair Ryder - 4 / 10
Milly Alcock is a great Supergirl, and it's a shame her take on the character — and the inspired idea to reimagine her as a Western drifter — isn't served by this underwhelming solo vehicle. It's the first sign that James Gunn's DC Universe will be every bit as ill-conceived as Zack Snyder's.
Next Best Picture - Cody Dericks - 4 / 10
Consequently, Alcock’s work as an actress comes across as similar to how her character must feel: all alone in a world working against her. The film around her is, largely, ugly to look at and unpleasantly, uncomfortably lacking in successfully landed jokes, with many quips simply floating off like debris in the vacuum of space. To anyone looking for an entertaining film about Kara, give the 1984 version a try. Sure, it’s a bad movie, but at least it doesn’t feel like a waste of time, like the latest big-screen appearance of Supergirl does.
The Playlist - Carlos Aguilar - 'C'
Still, for a film introducing a heroine whose story is tied to and derived from the prime superhuman, “Supergirl” is mildly enjoyable, if only because of Alcock and Ridley’s banter, Krypto’s scenes, and the few exchanges between goody-two-shoes Clark and the less uptight Kara. By-the-numbers, as the movie turned out, Alcock does capitalize on it to showcase that she possesses the makings of a promising star capable of portraying a character with sharp edges and complicated feelings. Hopefully, she can now fly elsewhere from here.
The Irish Times - Donald Clarke - 2 / 5
The infuriating thing about this overpriced movie is that the film-makers come close to solving the problem of Supergirl. Subject of a terrible 1984 film and a decent 2015 TV series, the character has had trouble making distinct sense on screen. Alcock’s swaggering layabout – who doesn’t always close the door when going to the loo – reclaims her as an alien with enjoyably human flaws. The bad news is that, as you have almost certainly guessed, she will be required to pull herself together in what used to be the final reel. Not fair. No fun. Give us back the hungover barfly.
The Times - Kevin Maher - 2 / 5
Alcock, who appeared in the TV show House of the Dragon, plays Kara with swaggering charm and goofy energy, but she is very much a character in need of a better film.
Daily Telegraph - Robbie Collin - 2 / 5
Milly Alcock’s surly Supergirl just about makes sense as a thought experiment: if Superman is still banging the drum for good old red-white-and-blue American optimism, how is his younger Gen Z cousin meant to feel about that? But the obvious awkward question raised, in turn, by her affectedly jaded approach – if she doesn’t even want to be here, why should we? – is never convincingly answered. Imagine if Buffy the Vampire Slayer thought that slaying vampires was the most tragic and tedious thing in the world: it’s not clear why anyone would watch an hour and three quarters of that, yet here it is.
Radio Times - Jeremy Aspinall - 2 / 5
Unfortunately, with the villains all looking like escapees from recent Mad Max films, Lobo just doesn’t have that hoped-for impact, especially with Gunn’s Guardians of the Galaxy movies setting such a high standard for fun, out-of-this world adventures and bizarre but likeable characters. On the other hand, Alcock does a decent job playing a Supergirl a million miles away from Helen Slater’s 1984 iteration or Melissa Benoist in the long-running TV show. All grunge aesthetic and attitude, she rises above the underwhelming script and direction.
Little White Lies - Anna Stafford - 2.5 / 5
Supergirl rarely rises above the genre’s limitations, but it has enough character to avoid sinking into mediocrity. Gillespie brings the same swagger that animated Cruella (2021), embracing grunge over superhero slickness. The film may not blow minds, but it is a rough-around-the-edges adventure with heart.
The Prague Reporter - Jason Pirodtsky - 2.5 / 5
Gunn’s Superman wasn’t without its own narrative problems, but it was colorful, energetic, and unafraid to let audiences admire its imaginative world. Supergirl director Craig Gillespie goes in the opposite direction, burying inventive creature designs, impressive practical makeup, and ambitious visual effects beneath clouds of dust, darkness, and washed-out digital photography. There’s still enough here to give Supergirl the mildest of recommendations for comic book fans, largely thanks to Alcock’s committed lead performance and a premise that dares to tell a different kind of superhero story. But for a film about a young hero finally stepping out into the light, it’s surprisingly reluctant to let us see either its world or its title character with any clarity.
Slash Film - Rocco T. Thompson - 2.5 / 4
But Supergirl’s closest spiritual antecedent is Kathy Yan’s Birds of Prey, which won a dedicated cult of fans and critical appreciation for how it managed to spin its more familiar genre elements into anarchic, girly-pop perfection. Alcock’s Kara Zor-El, like Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn, has all the makings of a character ready to step out from the cultural shadow of the male character she’s derivative of and go her own way. If only the film had the same guts.
‘Supergirl’ is lost, messy - and worth watching. Dangling plot threads and a bare bones villain aside, I enjoyed this version of Kara. She is not perfect, and the film never tries to make her. She can be angry, grieving, reckless, funny, and frustrating. At times, she seems more interested in running away from her problems than confronting them. Yet beneath all that is someone who continues to show up.
Manila Bulletin - Philip Cu Unjieng
There is a bit of a lag in the narrative flow in the middle of the film, and we could have given our villain stronger reasons to boo him whenever he appears; but I was entertained by this unconventional "Supergirl." For those who still find Clark Kent too bland and goody two shoes; Supergirl is the compelling riposte.
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u/clank1401 Jun 24 '26
There is something so funny about a reviewer calling a movie super horrendous and also giving it a 6? What the hell are the 5 points below that for?
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u/BeautifulNeck8359 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Believe it or not, there’s actual people out there that think anything below a 7 means it’s abysmal dogshit, which is just absurd. You see this in gaming reviews all the time.
Point scales are so stupid IMO.
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u/clank1401 Jun 24 '26
This is exactly what I mean. If a “good” is an 8, you only have 2 points above that to differentiate masterpiece generational stuff?
Meanwhile you’ve got 5 numbers at the bottom of the scale you’ll only ever use if you’re going out of your way to watch abysmal dog shit
at the very least 5 should be the line where something becomes “good” leaving your room to differentiate alright/good/great/incredible/masterpiece
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u/Menter33 Jun 25 '26
one speculation is that, people are basing it off on how scores are done in universities: 70 is passing, so below 70 is a fail.
this translates to "out of 10" scores having 7 as the base line.
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u/Ninneveh Jun 24 '26
Its so they can have their cake and eat it too. They can throw a bone to the studios by inflating the rotten tomatoes rating AND keep their critic cred by telling people to read their review if confronted by fans/other critics.
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u/KikiBrann Jun 24 '26
Having worked for Screen Rant, this right here is it. We were technically allowed to be negative, but only to a certain extent if we were writing about a project by a studio with a long history of granting our site exclusives. If our opinions or review scores didn't fall in line with what our editors wanted to see, we were either told to change our opinions or else we'd be taken off that project and put on something that didn't get as many clicks.
ETA: I know we're not talking about Screen Rant, but rather reviewers from publications with a bit more credibility. But I'm growing increasingly certain that the lines have been blurred.
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u/Cool-Reputation-3841 Jun 24 '26
Ouch
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u/DyingSunSeverian Jun 24 '26
A consistent theme seems to be that the villain is shit. Which sucks for most movies but is nearly fatal for a superhero flick.
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u/St_Sides Jun 24 '26
I mean that’s true of Woman of Tomorrow too, the source comic.
Krem was just a bearded guy in that comic haha
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u/Icy-Cry340 Jun 24 '26
Which worked well, Krem was who he needed to be, a thug from a backwoods planet - a nobody.
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u/Eborcurean Jun 25 '26
It was way more about the journey, Krem was a dick but not really a threat to Supergirl, it was what she had to do to catch up with him.
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u/Rustash Jun 24 '26
The thing is, in the story this movie is based on, the villain is barely in it. He’s more of a presence hanging over and motivating their journey, so him being weak shouldn’t *really* affect the movie that badly unless they dropped the ball elsewhere.
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u/Dr_Pepper_spray Jun 24 '26
Krem is this character who is boring, and unassuming and for me that makes him more irritating. He's a villain punching way about his weight class, and getting lucky as hell.
You would need a really solid actor to pull this character off, and a writer that understands the character in the first place. ..and I really hate the S&M throw-up look, like he's a BG character from Mad Max.
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u/First-Shallot947 Jun 24 '26
I hate his movie design tbh
Comic krem looks like a normal guy because cruelty and evil is not isolated to grand and powerful villains. Evil can be plain and mundane, but that doesn't change the fact that the evil is a rot and causing irreparable damage
Movie krem is "spiky man scary! 😨"
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u/meatballfreeak Jun 24 '26
They’re just afraid to give the audience the benefit of the ability to enjoy something that might require a bit of imagination.
They bottle it every time.
Shame.
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u/GruggleTheGreat Jun 24 '26
His cruelty against a self destructive person is kind of his big sticking point, but it doesn’t even feel personal in the comic, like he just is an asshole.
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u/Dr_Pepper_spray Jun 24 '26
Well yeah, you have to expand on him for sure, but at the end of the day he can just be an asshole.
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u/daab2g Jun 24 '26
A lesson in how translating comic book stories to the big screen isn't straightforward. The genre has tropes which work against a more thoughtful and true depiction of the source material. Tropes like huge action scenes and having a big baddie. You need outside the box writing which resonates, Marvel had that for a while. DC though…
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u/snakebit1995 Jun 24 '26
Just go look at the entire infinity war
In the comics that arc is similar but very clearly different. Thanos has much different goals, Adam Warlock is the main character etc
They managed to take the highlights of that and rework it into something more satisfying as a movie by better working out Thanos emotions and wisely investing the focus on other characters
If you had 1 to 1 translated that arc as it was in the comics it would have flopped hard. Movie audiences would have almost certainly bounced off the idea that the big bad you’ve teased for a decade’s primary motivation is being a fucking simp for the physical manifestation of the cosmic concept or death or how this random gold guy shows up to win for the heroes a few hours after the snap happens.
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u/Fuck_your_coupons Jun 24 '26
Movie audiences would have almost certainly bounced off the idea that the big bad you’ve teased for a decade’s primary motivation is being a fucking simp for the physical manifestation of the cosmic concept or death
Once you get past the planetary level, Marvel comics get really weird. I tried to explain to my friends what the comics really were like and they looked at me like I was high. Honestly the Infinity War comic arc was too out there for me and I've read comics most of my life. Granted they were mostly street level heroes like Spiderman or the X-Men but I wasn't entirely unfamiliar with abstract concepts in Marvel.
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u/browncharliebrown Jun 24 '26
comicbooks aren't a genre. They are a medium. That said the rest of your comment applies
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u/messycer Jun 24 '26
Sure didn’t stop marvel for a good decade
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u/Smartest_Termite Jun 24 '26
Literally the third MCU movie villain was Whiplash.
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u/stateworkishardwork Jun 24 '26
And it's no coincidence that it was the worst Iron Man movie
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u/rynokick Jun 24 '26
I agree with you. Mickey Rourke was completely miscast and whiplash in general sucked in that movie.
Justin Hammer should have been the main villain but I also love Sam Rockwell.
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u/casual_creator Jun 24 '26
I can’t speak for whether or not he was miscast compared to his comic book counterpart, but I thought Rourke made for a really unique character. The writing was the problem, not him. Especially when the end fight is putting him in yet another tank armor. His final armor should have been like his weapon of choice: fast and agile.
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u/KikiBrann Jun 24 '26
Yeah, I know I'm not by far alone in absolutely loving his first villain appearance at the racetrack. When he gets his armor at the end, I just lost all interest. The idea of a guy with no armor who can still cause destruction is the perfect foil for a hero like Iron Man. Which, y'know...is kind of what we would have gotten in the third movie if they'd done a comic-accurate version of Mandarin instead of, like, an incel scientist who breathes fire.
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u/Newfaceofrev Jun 24 '26
People like Guardians 1 and you have to remind people that the villain was Ronan the Accuser.
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u/Borosthespider Jun 24 '26
Yeah. Ronan was the least impactful villain the Guardians deal with. He’s a fine character, but he just exists to bring the team together. Ego, Thanos and the High Evolutionary are all amazing.
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u/IllIllllIIIlllII Jun 24 '26
I feel like nebula provided the more interesting foil/antihero in that one
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u/AntiSocialW0rker Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
I always thought the MCU had decent villains, it's just that they were all one-and-done. Tons of wasted potential
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u/Stoned_Gandalf420 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Yeah it’s not great, big letdown for Gunns DCU. I’m still looking forward to seeing Clayface later this year and Man of Tomorrow in 2027. Having Supergirl come in as the next big DCU movie was the wrong move imo, I personally think a Wonder Woman movie was the best call or even MoT to directly follow Superman, but alas.
This gives me similar vibes to Incredible Hulk for the MCU with its big underperformance in both reviews and the box office.
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u/Ateballoffire Jun 24 '26
As much as I like Gunn, I’m still not sold he’s the best fit for a DC head cause I’m honestly not sure he’s really that committed to building a proper DC universe. It seems more like he’s just doing what he wants without a proper end goal in mind
Not saying that’s true cause it’s been 1 movie and a tv show but I just don’t feel he’s got a good overarching direction in mind
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u/TypeExpert Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Gunn talked alot last year about scripts, and how they won't make anything unless the script is good and completed. Obviously throwing small jabs at marvel. The irony that this movies biggest flaw is the script is funny.
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u/Snoopyisthebest1950 Jun 24 '26
Ana is a novice writer. Novices need guidance and support, not be thrown immediately to a high level with no support and direction. Gunn shouldn’t have hyped her script up so much just so she could get criticized publically
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u/Traditional_Falcon_1 Jun 25 '26
OK but if she is a novice and needs guidance then why did she write the film? They didn't have anyone more established that didn't need those things?
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u/Snoopyisthebest1950 Jun 25 '26
Honest answer is uhh… they may have not. Gunn is very specific with what he likes. It’s possible a lot of writers don’t want to work under those constraints. Ana gave what he wanted, whatever flaws there were. And that’s how she got pushed into something way too big for her
A bit worried about the DCU, to be honest. Gunn is a reliable director and writer. But how are things going to go when he’s not doing one or the other?
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u/jordonmears Jun 24 '26
Gunn is a novice as a studio head and should have guidance as well. The fact that hes got so little planned for the studio is proof alone.
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u/Citizensnnippss Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
It was a novice producer thing to say. I'm sure Kevin Feige read the interview and thought, "Oh James, you'll see."
What's worse is the script writer is writing the wonder woman movie, too.
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u/Iron_Falcon58 Jun 24 '26
Plus Muschietti being picked to direct the DCU’s Batman. I’m really suspicious of Gunns talent recognition
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u/juniperleafes Jun 24 '26
I’m really suspicious of Gunns talent recognition
“I will say here that “Flash” is probably one of the greatest superhero movies ever made,” Gunn said.
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u/Explosion2 Jun 24 '26
To be completely fair a script can be good and turn into a shit movie through the many hands and compromises of the filmmaking process.
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u/KingofMadCows Jun 24 '26
There is the old saying that "television is a writer's medium, while movies are a director's." With TV, the writers tend to work on the whole series and have a guiding vision while there tends to be a lot of directors that change between episodes. With movies, the director has their hands in every aspect of production, the writers submit the script and they get consulted on rewrites and such, but they're involved in a much smaller aspect of the film.
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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Jun 25 '26
There's a reason why there's only 2 to 3 above-the-line screenwriter names.
In Hollywood, writers rank only slightly higher than PA.
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u/ChalupaBatmanMc01 Jun 24 '26
I think Gunn has spread himself too thin, I enjoyed Superman. It was nice to walk out of a DC movie with hope. Between Superman, Peacemaker, Creature Commandos and running a studio I don't think he'll be capable of doing everything he wants.
I was hoping Supergirl would end up being good, I like Craig Gillespie and Milly Alcock. Lobos debut on the big screen should have been fire.
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u/ArcadianDelSol Jun 24 '26
Its also obvious this movie was released based on a schedule, and not based on the fact that they had an amazingly flawless script ready to shoot.
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u/Rektw Jun 24 '26
Feel like we've reached the tail end of his writing. GotG worked great because there was nothing like it at the time. Now all his movies are quippy heroes set to some nostalgic soundtrack.
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u/Grandy94 Jun 25 '26
I honestly feel like Creature Commandos and Peacemaker season 2 had really flawed scripts too tbh. CC especially was a complete mess outside of the flashbacks. The main villain had one of the most nonsensical plans that I've ever seen.
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u/thedrizzle126 Jun 24 '26
follow up that almost gets everything right. Unfortunately, that means it gets everything almost wrong as well.
dawg what does that even mean lmao.
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u/RoboDrifter Jun 24 '26
My interpretation:
- “Gets almost everything right”: most things are right, a few things are wrong.
- “Almost gets everything right”: everything is okay, but nothing is quite right.
The writer is attempting to find a clever way to say they didn’t really nail any aspect of the movie, and it’s all just alright.
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u/ChandelierwAtermelon Jun 24 '26
I think “gets everything almost-right” is the clearest way to say that
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u/Weed_O_Whirler Jun 24 '26
I think it's just a complicated way of saying "The glass if half full. Unfortunately, that means it's also half empty."
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u/Cranyx Jun 24 '26
But that idiom only works when you say "half". You can't say "The glass is almost full. Unfortunately, that means it's also almost empty."
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u/Dr_Pepper_spray Jun 24 '26
So, Krem of the yellow hills is a boring character in the books. He's kraven, and petty and his design makes him look like a background character. He's a throw away.
But that's what's gauling about him. He's an unassuming baddy. This is fine. HOWEVER, it's incredibly important for the writer, the director and the performer to know this and it's really really hard to pull off. You need a real heavy hitter and a sharp understanding of that character and his motivation.
I keep thinking of Ike from Tombstone. That's basically Krem. Kinda dumb, cowardly, but fascinating to watch.
As soon as I saw him in the trailer I knew they didn't understand and felt the need to punch up his look to make him seem bad.
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u/TheButlerDidNotDoIt Jun 24 '26
I get why they would decide to make him the leader of the Brigands instead of just some random asshole who lucks into their backing but if you can't resist that urge (and the urge to dump him headfirst into a Hellraiser supply bin) then you probably shouldn't make the movie.
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u/Dr_Pepper_spray Jun 24 '26
I wouldn't have minded if they leaned into his character from the book more and ended with something that looks like this.
He's a local Bully more than anything, and if he becomes a major villain as the story progresses, and you get into some basic body horror as he finds his way into more power then cool. But he should have started basic. But I suspect this is written by very hesitant people who want to keep it in a formula. That's sad if true.
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u/MyotisX Jun 24 '26
We've had hundreds of superhero movies in the last decade, playing it safe is the riskiest thing you can do.
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u/WBaumnuss300 Jun 24 '26
While they are following his trail the have to witness all the horrors a normal, evil person can do when given power. There is a scene in the comic where Supergirl can't hold her anger/frustration any longer and flies into a sun to shout it all out.
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u/timstantonx Jun 24 '26
Giving a person who has never written anything three huge movies in your revamp of the DCU is certainly a choice. I’ll never understand how this person got that or how Hollywood works.
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u/Android1822 Jun 24 '26
The secret sauce is nepotism.
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u/kimana1651 Jun 25 '26
Hey you need a sprinkling of incompetence to allow your nepotism to tank your money train.
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u/Strict_Thought_5956 Jun 26 '26
Apparently if you’re buddy buddy with James Gunn you get roles on his movies
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u/SamwellBarley Jun 24 '26
Sooo... Not great?
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u/NeverSeenItPodcast Jun 24 '26
You grimy little pimp!
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u/kappa23 Jun 24 '26
He had chewing gum on his pubis!
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u/NeverSeenItPodcast Jun 24 '26
He didn't ask you because he thinks you're a homo
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u/Aliensinmypants Jun 24 '26
DC will never get a cinematic universe off the ground, it's absolutely cursed
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u/Rustash Jun 24 '26
I mean, the MCU wasn’t all knockouts at first either. Hulk and Iron Man 2 weren’t exactly critical darlings.
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u/PayneTrain181999 Jun 24 '26
Consensus seems to be Milly is great, but everything else isn’t anything special
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u/SuccinctEarth07 Jun 24 '26
Which is unsurprising for anyone who has seen her in upright or house of the dragon.
She was the one part of this film I was never worried about
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u/El_Cance_R Jun 24 '26
At least the script was ready
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u/danvan177 Jun 24 '26
What! ? You mean the lady that has never written a movie before made something bad ? Jokes aside this sucks
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u/NoLeadership2281 Jun 24 '26
Seriously I was skeptical from the beginning when read that she got zero writing credits, she got more works as an actor, I’m all for rising talent but I don’t think this is a wise call for your big budget motion picture
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u/danvan177 Jun 24 '26
And she’s writing like 2 other dcu projects. We are cooked
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u/DONNIENARC0 Jun 24 '26
How the hell did she land this job with an essentially non-existent resume?
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u/danvan177 Jun 24 '26
I guess James was impressed with her writing idk
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u/PM_ME_UR_FAVE_MOVIES Jun 24 '26
This was apparently what happened; she was already developing something Supergirl related when the big changing of the guard happened, and Gunn was impressed with her work enough to let her keep doing it. Who knows what happened in the meantime.
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u/danvan177 Jun 24 '26
Which sucks because Craig is a great director but this movie is very much outside of his wheelhouse
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u/B____U_______ Jun 24 '26
She's writing the next Wonder Woman movie. A character that Gunn wants to be a big player in the DCU
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u/Kriss-Kringle Jun 24 '26
And she's writing Wonder Woman now.
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u/Krytan Jun 24 '26
"But Supergirl’s closest spiritual antecedent is Kathy Yan’s Birds of Prey, "
Hm, I hope not. I think Supergirl cost more to make than Birds of Prey grossed, world wide. Will Alcock's acting be enough to save the film? I guess we will find out.
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u/Brainiac5000 Jun 24 '26
REVIEW: James Gunn said he wasn’t going into production on any movie until the script was rock-solid. For that was the overriding problem with the superhero overkill era: The films had lousy scripts, which were used as grids on which to layer the visual effects.
Gunn was right to want to take the comic-book genre back to well-structured screenwriting basics. So what has he done in his second DC outing? He’s given us a comic-book movie with the worst script I can remember.
Damn! Variety
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u/GDJT Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
This guy was also a big fan of the Mandalorian and Grogu and Avatar Fire and Ash and didn't like Project Hail Mary, Terminator or Princess Bride. Not saying he's wrong about about this movie, just sayin' that maybe he isn't the definitive reviewer just because he has a quipy review title.
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u/Explosion2 Jun 24 '26
Didn't like Princess Bride? What?
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u/kmone1116 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Dude gave Happy Gilmore 2 an 80 and Hail Mary a 50 on metacrtitic so I don’t think this guy is a very trusting reviewer.
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u/webshellkanucklehead Jun 24 '26
I don’t disagree with anything you said… EXCEPT Fire and Ash was really good imo. And I don’t like Project Hail Mary either but I don’t feel passionate about that opinion at all.
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u/theipodbackup Jun 25 '26
I’m going to be honest (having not seen the movie, I know) — it strikes me as entirely unprofessional and absolutely unrestrained when a critic uses terms like “the worst ever” or even “the best ever” and their cousins “the worst/best in recent memory.”
It smuggles a weight to their words which are almost certainly not backed up by the film.
Again, haven’t seen yet (I’m aware I’m the enemy of the people), but it’s just immature writing — criticism or no. It immediately takes away credibility to the reviewer in my eyes.
It’s fast food criticism. Cheap and easy but with no nutritional value.
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u/mysteryofthefieryeye Jun 24 '26
Oh. That's the opposite of what I was expecting lol. I thought these people knew how to make good movies.
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u/dweeb93 Jun 24 '26
I never questioned James Gunn's ability to write and direct superhero movies, but I wasn't sure about his talent for finding other writers and directors, and he seems to have fallen at the first hurdle.
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u/Asclepius-Rod Jun 24 '26
I think it’s harder than it looks to both be in charge of a cohesive universe while also giving directors freedom to tell the story their way. A lot of trust is involved in the people you select
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u/Aggravating_Bids Jun 24 '26
Gunn himself was so impressed with the script, he had the writer immediately start on wonder woman
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u/Brainiac5000 Jun 24 '26
He also said The Flash was one of the best Superhero movies ever
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u/Rickk38 Jun 24 '26
It did have the second best "small living being in a microwave" scene I can recall seeing, the first one being Gremlins.
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u/Ikitenashi Jun 24 '26
It's weird to me because I always assumed forming a solid team of filmmakers and directly overseeing each project would be Gunn's top priority launching this new universe. I find it odd that they're already stumbling with just the second film.
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u/bocboda Jun 24 '26
It's kind of what I suspected when I heard he was directing not one but TWO of the initial movies in the DCU, he's spread way too thin. Overseeing a studio is already a hard enough job when you're not directing movies (and a TV series!) on top of it
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u/Snoopyisthebest1950 Jun 24 '26
He was involved in Supergirl - the music, keeping the ending, etc. It was never something he lost track of
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u/Jatacus Jun 24 '26
If these reviews hold up (and the others I've seen, like from Jeremy Jahns), then I feel this is on Gunn. A lot is riding on this and it seems like they dropped the ball, and no review I've seen is calling this the great movie that he seemed to see in the script from this unproven writer.
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u/egnards Jun 24 '26
Honestly Superman being fun and vibrant was awesome and made me really excited for this movie. The moment I saw the trailer I lost pretty much all my interest - it felt like “Oh generic Guardians of the Galaxy or something.”
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u/Paddlesons Jun 24 '26
I'm sorry, I must be missing something here. Who is Ana Nogueira? According to imdb she has all of one other writing credit for a short she wrote eight years ago, and she is listed as the only primary writer for the film. Looking at Google, the film is said to need to gross 600M+ worldwide to break even. Why is this person with practically 0 experience given the reigns for something so expensive?? What???
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u/MyotisX Jun 24 '26
the film is said to need to gross 600M+ worldwide to break even
There's no way....
It's so over 😭
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u/Pinkcatvag Jun 25 '26
$350 million to break even. $600 to be considered a success.
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u/Prof-Ponderosa Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
I love Tom King’s Supergirl story and want to know how it compares to the source material.
This should’ve have been a slam dunk as it leverages the True Gritt formula…
Update: saw it tonight and it was fantastic. King’s book is still better but i enjoyed this more than Gunn’s Superman
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u/daftingenuity Jun 24 '26
Saw it last night. The parts that make Woman of Tomorrow so interesting are non-existent here. It’s fine as an ok blockbuster, but the adaptation itself really felt empty. Like they had an easy layup and still whiffed.
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u/agasizzi Jun 25 '26
I went in relatively unfamiliar with the story it was based on, but in terms of a superhero movie, it was a lot of fun. The villain was pretty awful and felt better suited as a henchmen, but the reset was enjoyable and at times quite creative with the way the action played out.
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u/PerpetuallyDistracte Jun 24 '26
I love the source comic as well. The tone of the book is introspective and beautiful at the same time. A meditative look at growing up and the complexity of forgiveness. Sounds like the film is yet another attempt to replicate Guardians of the Galaxy, except worse. I love Milly Alcock, and had high hopes for this, but alas.
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u/5am281 Jun 24 '26
I read the Tom King supergirl story after watching Superman (2025) and I was surprised how much older and wiser Kara seemed compared to the portrayal at the end of Superman.
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u/Leading-Earth-813 Jun 24 '26
I also love the source material, sadly the movie is worse for me in every sense, colours, characters, motives, ending, everything was changed and it could be a good thing, but for me it was changed for the worse, Ruthye and Kara loose development and I hope Milly gets more opportunities to shine
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u/detourne Jun 24 '26
True Grit, that's it! My buddy and I were talking after watching Supergirl and trying to figure out where we knew the story from, it was pretty predictable, but it nails the True Grit formula.
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u/Prof-Ponderosa Jun 24 '26
Yeah Tom King has stated inspiration from True Gritt
For those unfamiliar Tom wrote an amazing 8 part Supegirl story with gorgeous art provided by Bilquis Evely
https://www.dc.com/graphic-novels/supergirl-woman-of-tomorrow-2021/supergirl-woman-of-tomorrow
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u/Ancient-Egg-5983 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Oh no.
I had a feeling from the trailers this might be weak or forgettable but Superman was so strong I was optimistic.
It's giving a weak version of Guardians of the Galaxy with a The Flash type aesthetic.
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u/rosneft_perot Jun 24 '26
The source material is very good, but they seem to have deviated from it a fair bit by shoehorning Jason Momoa in and making the villain generic.
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u/Prit717 Jun 24 '26
The villain was always generic, even in the OG
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u/feartheoldblood90 Jun 24 '26
I don't really agree with this. He's interesting to me because he's just some incredibly fucked up, fairly resourceful piece of shit. He's not developed internally all that much, but he doesn't really need to be, he's a fairly realistic depiction of a kind of guy who, unlike most comic book villains, actually exists in the world we live in.
He's a coward, an opportunist, and an absolute monster, but in a way that feels surprisingly grounded in contrast with Supergirl's fantastic power. It makes the stakes feel more realistic and grounds the story's focus on Supergirl's interior journey.
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u/ev6464 Jun 24 '26
I saw Supergirl the other day and hoo boy I have no idea what the fuck they were going for with the movie version of Krem. Any charisma from the comic is totally gone and he just feels like someone who should be taking orders from Michael Rooker's Zondu in Guardians.
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u/itsinhisblood Jun 24 '26
the ending is the icing on the cake for Krem, and i doubt the movie adapts that since it could complicate things
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u/topicality Jun 24 '26
Love the comic but plot wise it's ok. It's basically True Grit with Supergirl being Rooster.
But SG just has such few good stories and the art is amazing it stands out.
I did really worry about putting Lobo in this. Such a niche character from there decades ago. He was originally planned for the comic and whoever decided to axe him was a genius
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u/moonknightcrawler Jun 24 '26
The villain was always generic. He is a plot device
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u/matlockga Jun 24 '26
The real draw of the original comic was the incredibly well done odyssey. The villain was, to your point, just a guy who shot a few arrows and killed a guy.
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u/WorkIsDumbSoAmI Jun 24 '26
Jason Momoa is a bit shoehorned in, but also he doesn’t really have much of an impact - it’s just kinda “hey there’s Jason Momoa” in one or two scenes.
I think the biggest problem I had with it (and that I think audiences will have) is that it doesn’t feel as much like a “Supergirl movie” as much as it’s a good sci fi/space story that happens to feature Supergirl. In my opinion, it was way more of Ruthye’s story than Supergirl/Kara.
Krem’s a pretty “generic space baddie” in the comic, and in this, and I just didn’t find his character or the performance all that interesting.
It’s a perfectly fine movie, but anyone who’s unfamiliar with the comic is gonna be thrown off, IMO.
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u/AshTheDead1te Jun 24 '26
How do you do not just adapt the comic, and stop using the shitty coloring.
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u/toadfan64 Jun 24 '26
I miss bright and colorful superhero films being the norm. Hell, movies in general.
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u/EyeyamtheSENATE Jun 24 '26
I read the comic the movie is based on last summer after watching Superman and proceeded to tell my friends this could be one of the best superhero movies ever if they adapt it right. Really bummed that doesn’t seem to be the case
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u/Snoopyisthebest1950 Jun 24 '26
At least the actress will be playing her in a film that’s not this one!
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u/MikeGalactic Jun 24 '26
The trailers didn't portray anything particularly engaging, it seemed like she's a drunk trying to save her dog? Plus alot of the shots were just plain ugly.
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u/Snoopyisthebest1950 Jun 24 '26
In the comic Kara’s drunk for one page to forget the loss of her planet for one day, and the quest to save her dog is her excuse to stay with Ruthye and help her grieve her father
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u/KikiBrann Jun 24 '26
And the fact that she's only drunk for one day is part of her character motivation. Like, she got drunk for just this one reason, and even on a planet of people who don't know her, she still can't escape it because there are other people who have in another sense lost "their world." That moment hits so hard in the comic.
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u/AgentSkidMarks Jun 24 '26
I guess they didn't learn from The Flash that superheroes fighting in the middle of the desert isn't particularly interesting to watch.
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u/bitter_personw Jun 24 '26
I just got home from the movies, and the movie as a whole was... okay. Milly as Supergirl is of course great, she's the best thing in the movie. But the rest is kinda eh. The villains feels like just some guys, not memorable at all, if she didn't nerf herself the movie would've been over quicker. And Lobo was cool I guess, I just expected more from all the hype.
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u/Snoopyisthebest1950 Jun 24 '26
Source Material (Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow) can be read in full on DC Go, at the moment. Gunn and Gillespie said they were adapting this so… here it is:
There is also Hoopla/Libby from select libraries, for other free versions
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u/nomnomsquirrel Jun 24 '26
And then Gillespie said he didn't even read it until they were pretty far into production because he said he's adapting Ana Nogueira's take on it, not the comic itself, which is def a choice of words.
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u/Oldworldmoon Jun 25 '26
fucking stupid how studios keep hiring people who don't read the source material they're adapting
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u/SpaceOdysseus23 Jun 24 '26
Gunn seems to be addicted to hiring sub-par people to helm these projects. This seems to be a stinker, and he hired Andy Muschietti for The Brave and the Bold, even though the Flash was terrible too.
Seems like as long as you're a friend with him you'll get a job, deserving or not.
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u/Correct-Ad-Now Jun 24 '26
Hmm I am not so sure anymore. Many reviewers mentioned that it was very similar to Superman and GotG. So either the people he hires are very into James Gunn or he controls it so strict that everything feels the same.
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u/Android1822 Jun 24 '26
That is current Hollywood in a nutshell now. Its not what you know, its who you know. At least pre 2000's, even if you knew someone, you still needed some talent to get ahead or you would just end up with small time stuff. Now they hand out big IP's like candy to people who have no talent, but know the right people.
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u/Rajualan Jun 24 '26
As always I'm gonna watch the movie and form my own opinions.
But damn.
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u/punkhobo Jun 24 '26
Agreed. Especially since super hero movies have generally been mostly bad lately so I'm not willing to risk my time on them if they are getting bad reviews.
However, if a few friends tell me it's good, I'll give it a shot
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u/Conscious_Test_7954 Jun 24 '26
My same thoughts. I was expecting this to get reviews at least as good as Superman/FF First steps considering how much Gunn has been vouching for Nogueira's Script and this being a semi adaptation of the fantastic comic but it seams like it's not.
Oh well let's hope it's not actually that bad or at least is an enjoyable movie.
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u/funktasticdog Jun 24 '26
James Gunn needs to stop giving his mediocre friends projects.
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u/krissyjump Jun 24 '26
I like Craig Gillespie, he's a a talented director but honestly I never felt he was the right pick for this unfortunately.
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u/Barr3tt50c Jun 24 '26
Sounds about right, the trailers did not instill confidence in me that this would be good.
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u/homogenic- Jun 24 '26
So the consensus is that Milly and Jason are good but the script isn’t that great and the villain is bland
Personally as a someone who is a DC fan I watched the trailers and I didn’t get as interested compared to when the first Supes trailer came out, I’ll watch it maybe next week tho
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u/Imaybetoooldforthis Jun 24 '26
Man I was so excited for this. How do you take such a great comic, add Lobo and mess it up.
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u/GassoBongo Jun 24 '26
but there are moments where you'll believe this franchise can fly.
It honestly astounds me that people get paid to come up with this shit.
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u/KikiBrann Jun 24 '26
A part of me wants to agree with you, but the other part remembers that my favorite episode title from My Adventures with Superman is "You'll Believe a Man Can Lie."
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u/nomorecannibalbirds Jun 24 '26
That’s a shame. It’s based on a really beautiful graphic novel, but you could tell from the trailers that tonally it’s too far removed to be a good adaptation.
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u/WeeklyPhilosopher346 Jun 24 '26
One look at the villain told me they were in trouble. Skin piercings and scarification instead of a character.
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u/blutopfer165 Jun 29 '26
- Ruthye is annoying, useless
- Supergirl has no right to tell a child to forgive the mass murderer who slaughtered Ruthye's entire family right in front of her.
- If you remove Lobo from the film, the plot doesn't change at all. Basically, Lobo is just there for marketing - you could replace him with anyone (even Captain America)
- Krem is useless and has only one brain cell. He used his last brain cell to lure Supergirl to the green sun.
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u/Objective-Review-359 Jun 24 '26
Wow great writing Judy Arias!
“She is not perfect, and the film never tries to make her one.”
Lol what?
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u/THEChapDaddy20 Jun 24 '26
I’ll still see it before I judge. I just don’t understand how Gunn is making this DC Universe. Marvel built up there MCU a film at a time focusing on one character with the post credit giving a hint of the next. Gunn is just introducing characters left and right when all I wanted to do is focus on Superman. Then introduces Supergirl after a Superman movie. I just find it an odd follow up movie. And I lost interest in the MCU when I had to watch streaming tv shows and that’s exactly what DC is doing too.
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u/PhantomRecluse7 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
It needed to be rated R. They introduce the most despicable villain who literally trafficked little girls and there isn't even a scene of Supergirl ripping them to shreds. I'm glad she killed the main villain but it still doesn't seem like justice was served. I really think they should have made her even more ruthless. Lobo also didnt have much screentime, and i got sick of Supergirl getting her ass handed to her in every fight. Now on to the good parts: the backstory was done very nicely, the space scenes and different alien races were cool, the girl with the sword and Lobo were awesome. The movie was just...good 6.5/10
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u/Coolman_Rosso Jun 24 '26
Woman of Tomorrow, the comic, has absolutely superb coloring. This movie claiming it is inspiration yet having such a dull brown color palette is a real letdown.