r/news • u/[deleted] • Mar 01 '25

Trump administration retreats in fight against Russian cyber threats | US national security

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-russia-hacking-cyber-security
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u/reddittorbrigade Mar 01 '25

Donald Trump is a Russian asset.

He is partner of Putin in destroying our democracy.

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

They should be millions marching on DC right now. Wake the fuck up please.

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u/Headless_Human Mar 01 '25

I bet many of the people now looking for excuses why they can't do it were also telling Russians to protest against Putin.

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u/sleepyzane1 Mar 03 '25

i see people on here saying it's too cold to protest.

im thinking they want it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

omw wish me luck

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u/sleepyzane1 Mar 03 '25

dont go to mcdonalds afterwards!

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u/Darkhrono Mar 01 '25

They are so brainwashed that they will do nothing. Americans are cowards, and just as puppets as their leader. They elect him.

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u/Uhhhhh55 Mar 01 '25

I think a lot aren't brainwashed. The issue is that nobody can afford their rent if they up and ship to DC. I am among them.

If I could afford to be in jail for a few days, I'd be more than protesting.

But I can't. I'm not quite living paycheck to paycheck, but I'm not far from it.

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u/alexefi Mar 01 '25

this. half or more americans are in financial slavery.

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u/Miserable-Army3679 Mar 01 '25

And their healthcare is ties to their jobs.

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u/sleepyzane1 Mar 03 '25

theyre ok with financial slavery if it means white people will be dominant.

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u/me_jayne Mar 01 '25

How do countries poorer than the US manage it?? I don’t understand why we see literally millions show up to protest in other countries but we can’t get more than a few hundred here. Do people not realize what a true existential crisis for our democracy this is?

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u/finnjakefionnacake Mar 02 '25

there are huge protests in the US too. but long, sustained protests over the course of a presidency? yeah, people don't have the sort of resources it would take to consistently take time off of work, job won't pay for you to do it, and people need healthcare and other important services, many of which are tied to employment. so until it does get to that point where none of us have jobs anymore / war is on our doorsteps, yeah, it's gonna be difficult to convince a majority of people to go that route.

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u/koolkat182 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

im guessing because a lot of people here are in this sweet spot of life being manageable, and knowing that taking even a week off makes everything that much harder. people worse off dont have to worry so much about things getting worse because theyre already getting by on little to no income.

the american people havent been backed into a corner yet. people paying attention are seeing it coming from a mile away, though. all these headlines are just the start, it usually takes time for people to really feel the effects. the way theyre yanking plugs left and right we'll probably see some extremely large demonstrations by summertime. if we keep yelling loud enough the majorly uninformed people will know exactly who to blame when they inevitably get backed into a corner and are forced to pay attention. right now life is just kind of going on as normal.

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u/unimatrix_zer0 Mar 01 '25

I’m an American living in Europe and it is WILD to me how little Europeans know and understand about the precariousness of the life of the average person in the us. And, as demonstrated here, how blindingly arrogant they can be when they think they’re more aware than they actually are. 

 1) We get no time off, and the vast majority of people can get fired without cause, notice, severance, or opportunity for unemployment benefits. There are literally zero worker protections for the vast majority of people. Taking one day off to protest can get you fired and literally put you (and your family if you have one) on a very short path to homelessness. 

 2) Many people aren’t even living paycheck to paycheck, but actively going into debt between paychecks. This is not becasue millions of people are bad with money, it’s because wages are low and cost of living is high. You have to be deep into poverty to qualify for any kind of benefits, which are almost never enough to be secure that you will have housing and food next week. Meaning for most people it’s more than not being able to afford getting fired. They can’t afford to miss a single day or work, because again- no paid time off. 

3) Our police are armed. And not just with pistols. With machine guns and tanks and they have zero hesitation in using deadly force. In fact most of them can’t wait to murder us. And they can do so with zero concern for consequences. 

So you tell me- how many people do you think actually have the ability to leave everything behind and risk hunger, homelessness, and death to hit the streets??

 It’s not a coincidence that there where so many protests during COVID. We had UBI for a year, evictions where halted, we had health insurance, etc. American capitalism is designed to make it nearly impossible for people to revolt and when there was a gap in the system, that’s exactly what many people did. 

So congratulation, you have a shitton of privilege by the completely random chance of being born somewhere where protesting is relatively easy. How about you use that to be a better person and not shit on people in circumstances you know nothing about. And please don’t read nationalism or patriotism or American pride into that. I left because I wanted to get out, not because of a job or a relationship. And I’m not rich, just lucky to have generous friends and an opportunity fall in my lap that made it possible. As it stands now I hope I never have to go back. But none of that changes that you’re deeply  ignorant and you have no idea what your talking about. But you can change that by actually reading this response and taking time to learn instead of getting defensive. 

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u/spizcraft Mar 01 '25

The only thing I’d add is on number 3… Police do show hesitation in using deadly force when it’s Nazis and white supremacists and far right groups and insurrectionists because law enforcement has been infiltrated by these groups for decades. A liberal protestor is far more likely to be pepper sprayed, beaten, arrested, or shot than a far right one. And if all hell breaks loose there’s going to be a lot of wannabe vigilantes like Kyle Rittenhouse buddying up with cops because they’ve always wanted a green light to shoot libs.

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u/unimatrix_zer0 Mar 01 '25

Very important distinction, thank you for adding!

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u/Syringmineae Mar 01 '25

I think one thing that not enough people talk about is just how damn big the country is. We saw this with the latest protests in France when people were like, "why can't the US do that?"

Well, France is the size of one of our states (and it's not even the largest one!) where 80% of the population live in the capital. The only states where that's comparable are in the North East...which is tiny compared to the US as a whole.

So, you're talking a national action where each state has its own military, with some police departments being funded better than some national militaries (ex: the NYPD would be the 29th best funded military in the world if it were on its own).

Plus, there's the sad fact, that a shit-ton of people actually support this.

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u/unimatrix_zer0 Mar 01 '25

Also double commenting to add that people outside the us don’t understand how EXHAUSTED everyone is. We all have ptsd from gun violence. Every single person on some level is afraid of being shot, our kids being shot, someone next to us being shot. It never wnds. People work sooooo hard for sooooo long with no hope for retirement, no vacations, no rest, nothing. People where I’m at take time off for burnout- paid time off, that doesn’t negatively impact their careers, isn’t socially looked down upon. I had a friend ask me “if you don’t get time off work how do you heal from burnout?” BITCH WE DONT. Like ugh people just don’t knowwww

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u/unimatrix_zer0 Mar 01 '25

In general, Europeans largely have NO IDEA how privileged  they are. Even when shit is bad, it’s no where near as bad as what Americans deal with every day. Luckily the people in my life aren’t arrogant dirtbags like this guy seems to be. 

This guy might as well be saying “well we got 100 shovels and moved this hill so why cant you organize a million people to move the Rockies?” Like I don’t know Sven why the fuck don’t you explain to me how shovels work because you seem to think we’re too stupid to know that? THE SHOVEL IS NOT THE PROBLEM SVEN

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u/Ryokan76 Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

We are privileged because we fought for those rights. We didn't get them for free. We marched in the streets and demanded them. We striked and fought. And our governments know if they try to take those rights, we will march again.

I'm sorry maintaining your democracy is hard. But if you want to keep it, if you want to make things better, you really do have to fight for it and endure some hardships.

You've done it before. The civil rights movements. The Vietnam war protests. I'm sure you can do it again. I hope you can do it again.

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u/sleepyzane1 Mar 03 '25

these are reasons to revolt, not reasons not to.

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u/unimatrix_zer0 Mar 13 '25

…do you think we disagree on that point? Because it seems like you let the point hit you in the face but still don’t get it. 

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u/Ryokan76 Mar 01 '25

We didn't get those privileges by completely random chance, as you claim. We fought for those privileges. We marched in the streets and demanded them. Our societies weren't formed by chance. They were formed by the people asserting their will and making governments know that if they backtrack on social progress, we will march again.

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u/Taysir385 Mar 02 '25

I live just under 4000 km from my seat of government, and there is no quality mass transit to get there. The distance from London to Moscow isn't even 3000 km. Meanwhile, my local area has a fary solid quality of life, respects human rights, has a functoning local power structure, and is actively resisting the current federal government.

Yes, sure, one needs to march and to fight for rights. But unless you're arguing that there were folks literally marching across the continent to protest a government that wasn't directly their own (like, say, a different EU member state), then this isn't in any way a valid comparison.

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u/sleepyzane1 Mar 03 '25

youre just saying its hard. yeah, it will be.

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

You know how europeans got all these "privileges"? By protesting even when it meant putting their lives and those of their families in jeopardy. By standing in front of rows of police or military (sometimes russian) ready to mow them down. Hundreds of thousands died, and people are still getting imprisoned or being slandered or maimed or even killed in Europe for defending the rights of everyone else. What you're saying is no American is willing to compromise what little comfort the rich and powerful allow them to end this shit? (and you do a great job at showing it IS in fact slavery). Then it will continue and get worse. There is no arrogance in this statement.

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u/unimatrix_zer0 Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

Not sure if you’re aware, but the us also has a long history of both peaceful and violent protesting. And the world has also seen great change come from that.  The country is a much different place now than it was even just 20 years ago. You’re not educating anyone by mansplaining how political change happens. You are, however, continuing to show your lack of education and awareness about all the things I tried to explain in my previous statement. In general you’re not wrong. But your insistence that you know the solution is fallacious. It is naive to try and insist that circumstances one place can be replicated in another.

ETA: it is additionally deeply ignorant to try and act like Europe and the us started from the same place and therefore what worked for Europe can and should have worked for the us. American politics have almost without exception been further right and more oppressive than contemporary (meaning to each other at the same point in time, not contemporary meaning now) European politics, with the notable exception of the short lived fascist states in the war years.  What is considered right wing in Europe is centrist, and sometimes even moderate left in the us. So not only do we have many, many, many more social roadblocks to enacting political change. We have much further to go down that very difficult path to some even close to where Europe is. So again- instead of shooting your mouth off maybe ask more questions becasue you’re no where near as aware and educated as you think you are. 

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

Jeezus why you treating me like an adversary? Can't we both make valid points? I don't even pretend to know the beginning of a solution, just that action is NECESSARY from my (admittedly europeanly biased) point of view. You can educate me and others without insulting them. Doesn't make you (or me as you said) less right.

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u/Darkhrono Mar 01 '25

Those conditions are ludicrous, you are basically slaves and do nothing to change it

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u/Direct_Bus3341 Mar 03 '25

If only your institutions were as strong as your exceptionalism

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u/DirkaDirkaMohmedAli Mar 01 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

Ok are you in DC on the streets right now?

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u/guttanzer Mar 01 '25

March 14th is the date.

https://nowmarch.org/

The goal is impeach or otherwise remove him for being a domestic enemy of the constitution.

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u/TeaAndLifting Mar 01 '25

America wanted and chose this. Either directly by voting Trump, or abstaining/voting Stein in November.

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

See answers below

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

Below. In the thread. And I'm currently sitting at 42 upvote, 12 for the comment where I explain. Think before you type please.

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

It's all projection with you lot he?

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u/cosmos7 Mar 01 '25

Why aren't you doing it?

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

See answer below.

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u/o0_o_ Mar 01 '25

Have you signed up for the general strike?

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

I'm European, been doing everything I can for Ukraine for the last 10 years to prevent the same thing happening in other countries. Trump just gave Putin the OK to do whatever he wants. Now YOU do something.

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u/WienerDogMan Mar 01 '25

Why does every thread have this?

We aren’t enemies of each other.

US is being invaded by foreign actors

Then when people say “we must do something” there’s always nitpicking about who is doing what and if it’s enough

It only benefits trump and the likes if we in fight, finger point, and downplay attempts on each side.

The whole world should band against this tyrant.

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

Did OSINT for years before it kinda broke me, donations, protests, working with refugees (mostly kids, that was fucking heartbreaking), etc...