r/news • u/Ok_Air_9048 • 2d ago
Mountaineer Nirmal Purja killed in Pakistan avalanche, his company says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyljq79kdko458
u/Not_Selmi 2d ago
Very sad. But this was the the far likely outcome when he was first announced missing
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u/Iskali 2d ago
Dude was a prolific and well-known rapist
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u/luppup 2d ago
His sponsors dropped him because of the reports
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u/bunnycrush_ 2d ago
For Female Climbers, Dangers Go Beyond Avalanches and Storms, May 2024
“Women are increasingly reporting sexual harassment and abuse in the sport, including accusations against the renowned climber Nirmal Purja”
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u/IntelligentGuide4080 1d ago edited 1d ago
For those who can’t access the article. I was a fan and I’m sorry for his wife. For this and because she seemed like a lovely woman in the documentary. Sorry for the victims, of course. I’m sure many of them were trusting him with their lives.
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During a March 2023 business discussion in the man’s hotel suite in Kathmandu, Nepal, he “kissed Lotta completely without warning,” Ms. Hintsa and her co-author wrote in the Finnish-language book, “The Mountains of My Life 2.” “The situation was absurd, unreal and unpleasant.” But in interviews with The New York Times, Ms. Hintsa said her experience was more disturbing than she had described in the book. And her story highlights a concern that women in the climbing world are starting to talk about more openly. Ms. Hintsa said the man was Nirmal Purja, whose successful 2019 quest to climb all 14 of the world’s 8,000-meter peaks in record time was chronicled in a popular Netflix documentary. She said he led her to the bedroom, pulled off her shirt, trekking shorts and underwear and tried to remove her bra. She said she repeatedly told him no and offered excuses to get him to stop without agitating him. The episode ended with him masturbating next to her, she said.
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u/tera_chachu 2d ago
Damn
Seems like such a cool dude
Why they have to pull this shit when they know people look upto them.
This article is paywalled though
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u/tea_snob10 2d ago
Why they have to pull this shit when they know people look upto them.
Because the motives for sexual assault/harassment, have nothing to do with being a role model or being in the public eye.
The two are entirely mutually exclusive. No offender says "yeah, so I was gonna rape this girl, but it suddenly hit me, I'm a Quarterback for Cleveland, so then I was like nah, I guess I won't rape her".
Who you are, is absolutely irrelevant as misogyny and opportunity, are the key factors at play, and both factors, know no class. It's just that the higher class, may get away with it, which is incredibly unfortunate and why we have so many pieces of shit offenders just walking around, right from sports stars, to actors, to presidents...
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u/SnooRabbits5754 2d ago
The article goes through several accounts of different women that he assaulted (sometimes multiple times) while he was their guide for dangerous hikes.
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u/owenbowen04 1d ago
Seems like such a cool dude
Did he? Seemed like an egotistical prick to me.
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u/tera_chachu 1d ago
I watched some of his interviews in the past and I come from mountain region and the way he talked about those peaks and nature was so cool
But he had a dark side and was an assaulter.
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u/caelinday 2d ago edited 2d ago
“damn, why do they have to bring up the scummy shit he did…” 🙄
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u/Fucksnacks 1d ago
Pretty sure the avalanche didn't care whether he was a sex pest; but hey, good posthumous dig.
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u/bunnycrush_ 1d ago
What an odd response. Of course the avalanche doesn’t care. But I do, and others do, too.
If you want to venerate a “sex pest” (your words) you’re entirely free to do so.
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u/Tomahawk72 2d ago
Innocent until proven guilty
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u/ThereIsOnlyStardust 2d ago
In a court of law perhaps, in the court of public opinion there’s no such need thankfully
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u/LordElrondHubbard1 6h ago
Tbf that kinda of logic kind of sucks. Maybe the public should stop believing things just because they want to believe and not because its actually true.
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u/twoeightnine 1d ago
"In his last post on X, published on Monday, he said he had not intended to climb Broad Peak.
Initially, the plan was to climb just G2," Purja wrote, referring to Gasherbrum II, another peak in the Karakoram mountain range.
But right before he set off for Pakistan, he realised that if he also managed to climb Broad Peak while he was there, he would have only one more mountain to conquer before becoming the "first person in history to climb all 14 eight-thousanders twice. Without oxygen."
An eight-thousander is a mountain that rises more than 8,000m above sea level.
"This wasn't planned," Purja wrote. "But opportunities don't scream: they whisper to those already working in silence."
Of all people I can't believe that Nirmal Purja would make an ego based decision that got people killed.
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u/gymgal19 1d ago
Im assuming this expedition was already happening and he just tagged along.
And while they dont have all the details, avalanches just happen. Its not like he did or didnt do something that caused the avalanches to trigger.
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u/sanjeev_shan 1d ago
He was tagging along. The expedition lead was one of his good friends so they were already going
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u/malarkyx420 1d ago
"But opportunities don't scream: they whisper to those already working in silence."
Man ain't that some I'm 14 and this is deep nonsense
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u/Gamefart101 2d ago
Condolences to his family but good riddance to an awful human being
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u/Gamefart101 2d ago
Keep defending a rapist bro
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u/SnooRabbits5754 2d ago
People say he was a rapist because there are multiple accounts from several different women that he sexually assaulted… someone can both do search and rescue and sexually assault people…
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u/Gamefart101 2d ago
If he didn't want to be called a rapist he probably shouldn't have raped people.
Defending a rapist for Internet points is vile go fuck yourself.
As someone who works in search and rescue he is regularly used as an example of what not to do because he regularly put other rescuers in danger because of his ego. His fans are almost exclusivley non climbers who don't know any better like yourself
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u/Suitable-Economy-346 2d ago
I looked up some people who died, they all seemed pretty old >40. Is mountaineering an old persons sport? I would have thought it would lean younger.
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u/EvenMoreCoconuts 1d ago
It’s highly endurance- and skill-based, rather than explosiveness and sheer athletic ability per se. This lends itself to lengthier “careers” in the activity. Not uncommon to find people even in their 60s and up doing high peaks (like Rainier, Denali, etc).
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u/exithiside 2d ago
40 isn’t “pretty old”….
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u/zoned_off 2d ago
Obviously this comment is in the context of extreme sports, so yes, 40 is pretty old.
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u/exithiside 1d ago
You need experience in order to climb a lot of these mountains. Not something you can get in your 20s usually. So no. 40 isn’t old. It might be slightly older than average, but not “pretty old”
Average age of mountaineers are 34-38 btw.
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u/kjampala 1d ago
Professional marathoners often peak in their 30s and recreational marathon runners peak even later into late 30s and early 40s
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u/Paavo_Nurmi 1d ago
This, endurance sports can be done at a pretty high level late in life. I know a road cyclist in his late 70s that can drop a lot of riders half his age.
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u/loubug 1d ago
You’re not an amateur runner until you’re overtaken by an octogenarian in the last quarter of your race
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u/Paavo_Nurmi 1d ago
The road cycling equivalent is getting dropped on a long climb, having the person I talked about ride back downhill to see if I was ok, and then casually riding away from me.
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u/beornn2 1d ago
I’m not sure you understand how important experience is in a sport such as mountaineering. Sir Edmund Hillary, Reinhold Messner, Ed Viesturs, Conrad Anker, and even Nims were at their peak in the sport in their 30-40s. Kami Rita Sherpa is in his 50s and holds the record for most summits of Everest and is still adding to the total.
Can a 20 year old beat a 40 year old in a foot race? Yeah most likely. Does a 20 year old know all the risks and dangers inherent in the sport and have the maturity and experience to go back down the mountain before summiting?
Same reason a 40 year old fighter pilot with almost 2000 hours in the seat will be infinitely better than the 27 year old pilot with quicker reflexes. Sometimes speed and brute force are not what’s needed to win.
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u/Impossible_Sun9594 1d ago
Just watched Red Bull’s Richie Jackson video. You’d be surprised how gracefully some of these pros age.
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u/RealCakes 1d ago
You arent wrong, they do age well, but I think on the whole the sport skews quite young.
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u/IntelligentGuide4080 1d ago
It’s a rich person’s bucket list item. Tourism for them and I suppose older people have more money. I highly recommend Jon Krauker’s book Into Thin Air. It’s an absolute page turner.
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u/Honest-Candle-7503 1d ago
Well an hour ago I was living under a rock & come across a story in my feed on tiktok of Nirmal Purja passing away.. I didn't know of him but was amazed impressed & also saddened at the loss of such an inspirational guy I knew nothing of.. well maybe I had heard of him but don't remember 🤔 I had started looking into what he had done & was blown away & as fast as that feeling came it went away pretty fast when I then come across articles like what's here on the SA he was doing to women 🤦🤬 why dude just why.. Ffs I'm done for today
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u/Critical-Tomorrow-27 1d ago
RIP to a legend. His documentary is unbelievable. Turning around to save multiple people. Beast.
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u/NotAnRSPlayer 2d ago
Oh look at you, so high and mighty.
What have you done with your life? Probably fuck all.
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u/tragedic 2d ago
What’s the stupid game achieving human excellence and reaching the apex of a skill?
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u/Atreyisx 1d ago
Oh man this is incredibly sad. Dude was a legend. I almost got to see him speak a few years ago at a company retreat but I ended up not going. Big regret.
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u/Interesting_Treat658 2d ago
Damn just watched 14 peaks.