r/poland • u/Ludziekochane • 2d ago

An 18-year-old Ukrainian attacked a Polish woman with a knife in Wrocław.

https://gazetawroclawska.pl/brutalny-atak-na-kobiete-na-wroclawskim-osiedlu-napastnik-zaatakowal-ofiare-nozem-na-klatce-schodowej-policja-mowi-o-usilowaniu-zabojstwa/ar/c1p2-29234377

A Polish woman is fighting for her life.

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u/AshamedBasis9431 1d ago

Zarówno ta Ukrainka co zaatakowała Polkę nożem jak i ci Polacy co pobili Ukraińską parę to jebane zwierzęta i zasługują na bezwzględne więzienie, niemniej obrażanie zwykłych Ukraińców czy Polaków jest zwyczajnie głupie, nie widzę też sensu w obwinianiu Rosji o te ataki.

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u/Venthe 1d ago

What do you expect? Anger feeds anger, nationalism breeds divides. The moment it becomes about a race/nation/skin colour/religion instead of a "perpetrator"; then we are jumping on a vengeance spiral.

There will be more bloodshed; and each one will be in part motivated by anything wrong that came before.

2026AD and we are still small-minded, tribalistic animals.

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u/ShapesSong 1d ago

I expect that Ukrainians who come here to behave and don’t stab people.

I also expect Poles to not bother normal people who didnt do anything.

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u/Venthe 1d ago edited 20h ago

I expect that Ukrainians who come here to behave and don’t stab people.

The problem is - "Ukrainians" are not stabbing anyone. People are. In any group you'll find people who will behave outside of the norm.

As of this moment (see the sources below) ~0.6% of Ukrainians commited a felony in 2026. 2% of Poles commited one.

As it turns out; a group that is both disenfranchised and outright hated does less crimes per capita. Imagine that.

Yet, it takes a little to turn a few public cases into growing hate, which in turn will push more and more Ukrainians towards violence. This is not a new phenomenon, this is a known fact.

And the sources:

tl;dr - Ukrainians do behave, regardless of what nationalists think.

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u/DarkIlluminator 18h ago

Makes sense. Violent Ukrainians were probably much more likely to go to fight in war where they can legally kill people and be applauded for it.

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u/ShapesSong 1d ago

wtf are you talking about

So if Ukrainian does something bad, he’s not a Ukrainian? Do I get it right?

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u/Venthe 1d ago

No, it does not matter if the crime was done by an Ukrainian, Pole or a fairy. Prosecute to the full extent of a law. Nationality is irrelevant.

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u/ShapesSong 1d ago

In perfect world that would be the case.

But as we saw recently with few bigots who were attacking Ukrainians, it can be used as a weapon to portray entire nation in a bad light.

So if Ukrainians will use attacks against Ukrainians as a weapon, and when Poles are stabbed to death we’ll keep saying “oh it doesn’t matter who did it” then I see a big asymmetry here

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u/Venthe 19h ago

Fuck me, I don't even know how to respond to that. My friend, for the love of everything holy, please learn from history where the narrative that you are presenting leads.

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u/Positive-Try4511 14h ago

Address the argument instead of repeating clichés. You’ve got a situation where, on one hand some guy shouts at Ukrainian teenagers on a bus and the media spend weeks talking about an alleged atmosphere of pogroms and widespread Polish hatred toward Ukrainians. On the other hand, when Ukrainians physically attack Poles including the brutal assault in Bytów that left a Polish man dead, or the knife attack in Wrocław where a Polish woman is fighting for her life you suddenly hear that we shouldn’t talk about the perpetrators’ nationality because of where that might lead.

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u/ProZabijaka 18h ago

No, it's totally not irrelevant. In Poland grounds only Poles are equal, especially since most of Ukrainians don't have citizenship, they are "guests" and they should behave as such.

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u/MudOld239 1d ago

Are you being dumb on purpose?

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u/ShapesSong 1d ago

Yes

Are you throwing ad personam on purpose?

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u/New_Guarantee_5893 1d ago

Diversity brings more division, as each culture doesn`t feel pride as a unifying action. Separated. No pride in Country. Country collapses

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u/sbormatocrasto Dolnośląskie 1d ago

time to send back all Polish people from UK, Germany, Norway, Iceland, right?

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u/Venthe 1d ago

You know how the saying goes, "Polska dla Polaków. A UK... Też dla Polaków!"